Liberals! Where Is Your Self-Respect??

[initforme]

Why does the GOP hate the american worker so much? It fascinates me how one party can be so loyal to those that have so much. When the smoke clears and the rhetoric is gone, it truly is the ultra rich vs those who simply go out and make a living and try to get by. And the GOP loathes, truly loathes those workers. What happened to make this a fact?

 

[freedombecki]

When you peel back the onion, all they really care about is the free gubmint stuff.

once again for you lying loons...

red states take more money from the feds than they put in

blue states put in more money than they take...

tell ya what.. stop living off of OUR dime.

thanks for playing.

now please go back to collecting your government check and using our government medical services.... while you drive on government roads and use government-subsidized gasoline... and eat government subsidized farm products...

tell ya what.. stop living off of OUR dime.

I'll tell you what, Jillian. Cooperate better with conservatives about lowering taxes back to what they were prior to WWI, and you will never again have to pay income taxes or feel put upon by people who have spent their entire lives trying to get Democrats to stop spending. We can't do this by ourselves.

Put your money where your mouth is and write your Congresscritter to effect a no-income tax plan for Americans. Reinstate this republic back to basics, and you will never have to feel put-upon again about someone else living off your dime.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A government of the people is still a government. A government charged with protecting free speech can also be a government charged with punishing unprotected speech.

The government is only legitimate so long as it follows the Constitution.

Nope. Being elected by the people gives the legitimacy to the government -- and that legitimacy includes the right to change laws and Constitution.

"The brief writer’s version
seems instead to be based upon the proposition that federal
judges, perhaps judges as a whole, have a role of their own,
quite independent of popular will, to play in solving society’s
problems. Once we have abandoned the idea that the authority
of the courts to declare laws unconstitutional is somehow tied
to the language of the Constitution that the people adopted, a
judiciary exercising the power of judicial review appears in a
quite different light.
a. Judges then are no longer the keepers of
the covenant; instead they are a small group of fortunately
situated people with a roving commission to second-guess
Congress, state legislatures, and state and federal administrative
officers concerning what is best for the country."

Chief Justice WILLIAM H. REHNQUIST
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol29_No2_Rehnquist.pdf

 

[koshergrl]

Isn't Cali a blue state?

Democrat fascists have been leveling job-killing policies against red states for years, and it's finally paying off.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A government of the people is still a government. A government charged with protecting free speech can also be a government charged with punishing unprotected speech.

The government is only legitimate so long as it follows the Constitution.

So abortion is a God given right, since abortion is a right established by our Constitution, and our Constitution has its roots, in part and principle, in the Declaration of Independence.

At least that is what a believer in the idea of God given rights would conclude.

"...since abortion is a right established by our Constitution,...

Not so....

....but there is a suggestion that any intelligence that you might have is found within the penumbra of the rock under which you reside.

Abortion, gay marriage, and other mis-named rights are the prerogative of the 'laboratories of democracy.' (you should look that up.)

 

[Moonglow]

The government is only legitimate so long as it follows the Constitution.

So abortion is a God given right, since abortion is a right established by our Constitution, and our Constitution has its roots, in part and principle, in the Declaration of Independence.

At least that is what a believer in the idea of God given rights would conclude.

"...since abortion is a right established by our Constitution,...

Not so....

....but there is a suggestion that any intelligence that you might have is found withing the penumbra of the rock under which you reside.

Abortion, gay marriage, and other mis-named rights are the prerogative of the 'laboratories of democracy.' (you should look that up.)

To bad they took away the Constitutional right of slavery.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So abortion is a God given right, since abortion is a right established by our Constitution, and our Constitution has its roots, in part and principle, in the Declaration of Independence.

At least that is what a believer in the idea of God given rights would conclude.

"...since abortion is a right established by our Constitution,...

Not so....

....but there is a suggestion that any intelligence that you might have is found withing the penumbra of the rock under which you reside.

Abortion, gay marriage, and other mis-named rights are the prerogative of the 'laboratories of democracy.' (you should look that up.)

To bad they took away the Constitutional right of slavery.

Better check your copy of the Constitution....seems to have a glaring error.
Or...is that the reason you like it?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The government is only legitimate so long as it follows the Constitution.

So abortion is a God given right, since abortion is a right established by our Constitution, and our Constitution has its roots, in part and principle, in the Declaration of Independence.

At least that is what a believer in the idea of God given rights would conclude.

"...since abortion is a right established by our Constitution,...

Not so....

....but there is a suggestion that any intelligence that you might have is found withing the penumbra of the rock under which you reside.

Abortion, gay marriage, and other mis-named rights are the prerogative of the 'laboratories of democracy.' (you should look that up.)

The right to abortion (with limitations as described in Roe v. Wade) is constitutional law.

Therefore it is a right established by our Constitution.

So back to the point. Let me put it this way. Since the founders believed in God given rights, and since they based the framing of the Constitution at least in part on the protection of God given rights,

and since abortion is now a protected right under the Constitution,

does that not now confirm, using the founders' own founding principles,

that abortion is a God given right?

 

[NYcarbineer]

So abortion is a God given right, since abortion is a right established by our Constitution, and our Constitution has its roots, in part and principle, in the Declaration of Independence.

At least that is what a believer in the idea of God given rights would conclude.

"...since abortion is a right established by our Constitution,...

Not so....

....but there is a suggestion that any intelligence that you might have is found withing the penumbra of the rock under which you reside.

Abortion, gay marriage, and other mis-named rights are the prerogative of the 'laboratories of democracy.' (you should look that up.)

To bad they took away the Constitutional right of slavery.

After the Declaration of Independence was sent to England, many an Englishman -
upon reading the high minded grandiose rhetoric about rights and equality,

penned by slaveowners -

literally LOL'd.

 

[koshergrl]

So abortion is a God given right, since abortion is a right established by our Constitution, and our Constitution has its roots, in part and principle, in the Declaration of Independence.

At least that is what a believer in the idea of God given rights would conclude.

"...since abortion is a right established by our Constitution,...

Not so....

....but there is a suggestion that any intelligence that you might have is found withing the penumbra of the rock under which you reside.

Abortion, gay marriage, and other mis-named rights are the prerogative of the 'laboratories of democracy.' (you should look that up.)

The right to abortion (with limitations as described in Roe v. Wade) is constitutional law.

Therefore it is a right established by our Constitution.

So back to the point. Let me put it this way. Since the founders believed in God given rights, and since they based the framing of the Constitution at least in part on the protection of God given rights,

and since abortion is now a protected right under the Constitution,

does that not now confirm, using the founders' own founding principles,

that abortion is a God given right?

In which instance our constitution supports a violation of human rights.

Our constitution does not determine what is a human right, and what isn't.

 

[koshergrl]

And thank you for again illustrating the leftist belief that human rights exist only as allowed by whatever government/person happens to be in charge. You are wrong, of course. Human rights exist IN SPITE OF governmental abuses and laws.

See my sig.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So abortion is a God given right, since abortion is a right established by our Constitution, and our Constitution has its roots, in part and principle, in the Declaration of Independence.

At least that is what a believer in the idea of God given rights would conclude.

"...since abortion is a right established by our Constitution,...

Not so....

....but there is a suggestion that any intelligence that you might have is found withing the penumbra of the rock under which you reside.

Abortion, gay marriage, and other mis-named rights are the prerogative of the 'laboratories of democracy.' (you should look that up.)

The right to abortion (with limitations as described in Roe v. Wade) is constitutional law.

Therefore it is a right established by our Constitution.

So back to the point. Let me put it this way. Since the founders believed in God given rights, and since they based the framing of the Constitution at least in part on the protection of God given rights,

and since abortion is now a protected right under the Constitution,

does that not now confirm, using the founders' own founding principles,

that abortion is a God given right?

Let's review....

I'll chalk it up to your A.D.D.....but you had claimed "abortion is a right established by our Constitution,..."


So....you've retreated from that to "The right to abortion (with limitations as described in Roe v. Wade) is constitutional law."


And...you were smart enough to know which to capitalize...

Is the above correct as far as our statements?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The government is only legitimate so long as it follows the Constitution.

Nope. Being elected by the people gives the legitimacy to the government -- and that legitimacy includes the right to change laws and Constitution.

"The brief writer’s version
seems instead to be based upon the proposition that federal
judges, perhaps judges as a whole, have a role of their own,
quite independent of popular will, to play in solving society’s
problems. Once we have abandoned the idea that the authority
of the courts to declare laws unconstitutional is somehow tied
to the language of the Constitution that the people adopted, a
judiciary exercising the power of judicial review appears in a
quite different light.
a. Judges then are no longer the keepers of
the covenant; instead they are a small group of fortunately
situated people with a roving commission to second-guess
Congress, state legislatures, and state and federal administrative
officers concerning what is best for the country."

Chief Justice WILLIAM H. REHNQUIST
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol29_No2_Rehnquist.pdf

As fascinating as that google nugget is, it has virtually nothing to do with the post for which it is provided in response.

 

[ilia25]

The government is only legitimate so long as it follows the Constitution.

Nope. Being elected by the people gives the legitimacy to the government -- and that legitimacy includes the right to change laws and Constitution.

"The brief writer’s version
seems instead to be based upon the proposition that federal
judges,

So? The guy has some ideas, but it is the people and the elected politicians who make the decisions.

 

[ilia25]

As fascinating as that google nugget is, it has virtually nothing to do with the post for which it is provided in response.

Well, she had to say something

 

[NYcarbineer]

"...since abortion is a right established by our Constitution,...

Not so....

....but there is a suggestion that any intelligence that you might have is found withing the penumbra of the rock under which you reside.

Abortion, gay marriage, and other mis-named rights are the prerogative of the 'laboratories of democracy.' (you should look that up.)

The right to abortion (with limitations as described in Roe v. Wade) is constitutional law.

Therefore it is a right established by our Constitution.

So back to the point. Let me put it this way. Since the founders believed in God given rights, and since they based the framing of the Constitution at least in part on the protection of God given rights,

and since abortion is now a protected right under the Constitution,

does that not now confirm, using the founders' own founding principles,

that abortion is a God given right?

Let's review....

I'll chalk it up to your A.D.D.....but you had claimed "abortion is a right established by our Constitution,..."


So....you've retreated from that to "The right to abortion (with limitations as described in Roe v. Wade) is constitutional law."


And...you were smart enough to know which to capitalize...

Is the above correct as far as our statements?

Since we're all here to waste time, I have no problem wasting time quibbling over an immaterial point of semantics.

"United States constitutional law is the body of law governing the interpretation and implementation of the United States Constitution."

I think that definition of constitutional law is satisfactory. Feel free to make a case that it's not.

If the right to abortion is constitutional law, then the right to an abortion is established in the Constitution, via constitutional law, which is the mechanism by which the US Constitution is interpreted and implemented.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And thank you for again illustrating the leftist belief that human rights exist only as allowed by whatever government/person happens to be in charge. You are wrong, of course. Human rights exist IN SPITE OF governmental abuses and laws.

See my sig.

But still you want the power to decide what is or isn't a human right

 

[koshergrl]

No, you do. You think the government should have the final say about it...and your main focus appears to be the DENIAL, not the granting, of human rights.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Liberals! Where Is Your Self-Respect??

Where do you think those boot-prints, all-over-your-ass, came from???​

 

[The Professor]

When you peel back the onion, all they really care about is the free gubmint stuff.

once again for you lying loons...

red states take more money from the feds than they put in

blue states put in more money than they take...

tell ya what.. stop living off of OUR dime.

thanks for playing.

now please go back to collecting your government check and using our government medical services.... while you drive on government roads and use government-subsidized gasoline... and eat government subsidized farm products...

Government-subsidized gasoline ????

You're kidding, right?

You don't have a clue how much the government TAXES each gallon of gas, do you. The government which you admire makes more on each gallon than the oil companies you detest. On average government makes $.50 on each gallon, and in some states such as California and New York, the tax is almost $.70 a gallon. What's really funny is that those politicians you admire want to increase this tax !!

As for government subsidized food, I wish you would give me an example. I would argue that government policies actually make food cost more, not less. I would remind you that government regulations on ethanol raised the price of corn and many other food items. There are many other examples I could give; however, I prefer to wait for your example(s) of how government makes my food cheaper.