Liberals sue to stop children from learning about God

[Skylar]

Just ask the multitudes or kids sexually abused by gay men.

How about the multitude of kids sexually abused by straight men? Again, why would we deny straight men the right to marry and raise a family because some of them sexually abuse kids?

The standards you're holding gays and lesbians to are not the standards you're holding straight folks to.

 

[g5000]

God decides what is right and wrong.

Is cheating on three wives wrong?

Is stealing from cancer kids wrong?

Is creating a fake university to steal from the elderly wrong?

Is fucking a porn star wrong?

Is bearing false witness every time one opens one's mouth wrong?

Asking for a friend.

 

[braalian]

Wrong. We do get to decide.

Well, considering gay marriage is now the law of the land, you did a spectacularly shitty job there buddy, didn’t you?

 

[g5000]

No one is forcing them. No one can force people to accept Jesus. They must do that on their own. But in order for them to make that choice, they must learn about Jesus and the Bible. Why are you so afraid of allowing kids to have access to that knowledge?

So long as those kids are also exposed to Allah and Islam, and Hinduism, and all the other religions, I'm cool with that.

I guess it didn't occur to you that Mom and Dad should be the ones exposing them to God and Jesus.

 

[Arlette]

I'm surprised Donald Trump isn't suing to prevent kids from learning that adultery, stealing, bearing false witness, and coveting are very bad things in the eyes of God.

Trump is the personification of the seven deadly sins all stuffed into an ill fitting polyester suit.

 

[Skylar]

No one is forcing them. No one can force people to accept Jesus. They must do that on their own. But in order for them to make that choice, they must learn about Jesus and the Bible. Why are you so afraid of allowing kids to have access to that knowledge?

When you try and strip gays and lesbians of the right to marry because 'god said so', you're ABSOLUTELY trying to impose your faith on them forcefully.

And you hurt people. Gays and lesbians have kids. And you're robbing their kids of the legal protections of stability of married parents. When you try and portray gays and lesbians as 'sexual predators' because they don't fit into your narrow worldview, you hurt them. They are harassed, demeaned, degraded, discriminated against and physically assaulted on the 'groomer' monikers your ilk try to pin on them.

How is that loving your neighbor? You aren't loving God or your neighbor by demeaning, degrading and discriminating against other people.

Gays and Lesbians are your brothers and sisters. You're commanded by god to love them too.

 

[g5000]

Exactly which Jesus should kids be exposed to?

The Mormon Jesus? The Catholic Jesus? The Methodist Jesus? The Episcopalian Jesus? The Pentecostal Jesus?

And why are Jews being left out? That's anti-Semitic!

 

[theHawk]

Whose God? I don't recall Zeus or Amaterasu saying anything about it. And if it’s YOUR faith's god, why do you feel compelled to impose your religious beliefs......on gay people? Its that ugly Christian impulse to MAKE people abide your faith again

The God of Abraham. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
No one recalls Zeus or other gods because they are false gods and if they had any doctrine it didn’t stand the test of time.

Why do YOU feel compelled to impose your religious beliefs of atheism and paganism on the rest of us? It’s that ugly atheist impulse to MAKE people abide by your ideology.

 

[braalian]

Exactly which Jesus should kids be exposed to?

The Mormon Jesus? The Catholic Jesus? The Methodist Jesus? The Episcopalian Jesus? The Pentecostal Jesus?

And why are Jews being left out? That's anti-Semitic!

You forgot the Muslim Jesus. He’s in the Quran too.

 

[theHawk]

Exactly which Jesus should kids be exposed to?

The Mormon Jesus? The Catholic Jesus? The Methodist Jesus? The Episcopalian Jesus? The Pentecostal Jesus?

And why are Jews being left out? That's anti-Semitic!

Mormons aren’t real Christians, they are heretics.

Protestants are falling apart, embracing heresies like gay marriage. Just stick with Catholic.

 

[toobfreak]

God decides what is right and wrong.

Incidentally, neither does God.

Sorry but BY DEFINITION, God is the DEFINITION of right and wrong. Without God, there can be no right or wrong.
God is the DIFFERENCE between right and wrong.

That is why atheists want to deny God, because without God, they can claim morality is RELATIVE (arbitrary to local standards).

 

[g5000]

The God of Abraham. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
No one recalls Zeus or other gods because they are false gods and if they had any doctrine it didn’t stand the test of time.

Why do YOU feel compelled to impose your religious beliefs of atheism and paganism on the rest of us? It’s that ugly atheist impulse to MAKE people abide by your ideology.

No one is forcing their beliefs on anyone except you.

Religious teaching is up to Mom and Dad, dipshit. Not the government.

You clearly have not thought this through. Do you really want the government all up in your religion?

Hateful Trumptards have infected their religion so thoroughly with politics, it is turning people AWAY from Christianity.

Have you seen the plunging church attendance rates? The number of people who now say they NEVER attend church has skyrocketed.

 

[g5000]

Mormons aren’t real Christians, they are heretics.

Protestants are falling apart, embracing heresies like gay marriage. Just stick with Catholic.

And there it is. The bigotry of the intolerant.

So you think YOU should decide what is the correct state religion.

Wow. You are precisely the kind of creature the Founders knew we needed protection against.

The Pilgrims were considered to be heretics in England. Did you know that?

That's why they came here. To get away from assholes like you.

 

[braalian]

Sorry but BY DEFINITION, God is the DEFINITION of right and wrong. Without God, there can be no right or wrong.
God is the DIFFERENCE between right and wrong.

That is why atheists want to deny God, because without God, they can claim morality is RELATIVE (arbitrary to local standards).

If you’d read the posts and quotes, you’d realize I was saying God doesn’t get to make laws or public policy and thus doesn’t decide who can legally marry who

Obviously He doesn’t, unless you’re trying to argue that He decided to “let” the federal government make they ruling

 

[g5000]

Look how the Never Attenders skyrocketed during the Trump era.

The weekly attendees are falling off a cliff.


The unbelievers of Europe attack the Christians as their political opponents rather than as their religious adversaries; they hate the Christian religion as the opinion of a party much more than as an error of belief; and they reject the clergy less because they are the representatives of the Deity than because they are the allies of government.

In Europe, Christianity has been intimately united to the powers of the earth. Those powers are now in decay, and it is, as it were, buried under their ruins. The living body of religion has been bound down to the dead corpse of superannuated polity; cut but the bonds that restrain it, and it will rise once more. I do not know what could restore the Christian church of Europe to the energy of its earlier days; that power belongs to God alone; but it may be for human policy to leave to faith the full exercise of the strength which it still retains.

Democracy in America, Chapter 17

That is how Europe lost its religion and we can see it happening here now.

 

[theHawk]

When you try and strip gays and lesbians of the right to marry because 'god said so', you're ABSOLUTELY trying to impose your faith on them forcefully.

And you hurt people. Gays and lesbians have kids. And you're robbing their kids of the legal protections of stability of married parents. When you try and portray gays and lesbians as 'sexual predators' because they don't fit into your narrow worldview, you hurt them. They are harassed, demeaned, degraded, discriminated against and physically assaulted on the 'groomer' monikers your ilk try to pin on them.

How is that loving your neighbor? You aren't loving God or your neighbor by demeaning, degrading and discriminating against other people.

Gays and Lesbians are your brothers and sisters. You're commanded by god to love them too.

I see you can’t answer my questions, and now you are resorting to repeating things you’ve already asked and I already answered.

Yes, gays hurt people by encouraging their lifestyle to others. Parents are supposed to be examples for their children to follow. Having gay parents would only encourage kids to emulate them, or at the very least promote homosexuality as “normal” to others. All of which I already stated can damn people to hell for committing such mortal sins. This is not serving God. It’s an affront to him. It’s in rebellion to him. Do you really want to damn kids to hell by teaching them homosexuality is good and also never teaching them the Bible?

 

[g5000]

Trump's favorite book in the Holy Bible is Chapter 11.

 

[Skylar]

The God of Abraham. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Why not Zeus? Or Zoroaster? Or Izanagi? Or Vishnu?

Again, why should your faith be imposed on the unwilling? Why should we MAKE others abide your beliefs and your feelings about God?

Your feelings are not an objective fact. Faith as a personal motivator is powerful. Faith as a motivator to MAKE others do something is wildly dangerous and has led to so much pain, death and suffering at the hand's of Christians. Literally millions upon millions of dead, tortured and enslaved.

Resist the impulse by abiding God's commandment to love your neighbor. Radical love will inoculate you from the ugliest parts of Christianity.

 

[theHawk]

How about the multitude of kids sexually abused by straight men? Again, why would we deny straight men the right to marry and raise a family because some of them sexually abuse kids?

The standards you're holding gays and lesbians to are not the standards you're holding straight folks to.

From the stats I have seen gays are at least ten times more likely to sexually abuse children.

It doesn’t excuse heterosexual men that do, they have a special place in hell too.

 

[Skylar]

Look how the Never Attenders skyrocketed during the Trump era.

The weekly attendees are falling off a cliff.


The unbelievers of Europe attack the Christians as their political opponents rather than as their religious adversaries; they hate the Christian religion as the opinion of a party much more than as an error of belief; and they reject the clergy less because they are the representatives of the Deity than because they are the allies of government.

In Europe, Christianity has been intimately united to the powers of the earth. Those powers are now in decay, and it is, as it were, buried under their ruins. The living body of religion has been bound down to the dead corpse of superannuated polity; cut but the bonds that restrain it, and it will rise once more. I do not know what could restore the Christian church of Europe to the energy of its earlier days; that power belongs to God alone; but it may be for human policy to leave to faith the full exercise of the strength which it still retains.

Democracy in America, Chapter 17

That is how Europe lost its religion and we can see it happening here now.

Trump is King Christian. And is a demonstration of what the ugliest parts of the faith can do to a person. Self identification as Christian in the US saw similar hits.