Liberals sue to stop children from learning about God

[theHawk]

So its 'satanic' for gay couples to be married, to raise their own kids?

Women being able to work for equal pay is satanic?

Women not being sexually harassed is satanic?

Being good stewards of the earth is satanic?

Healthcare is satanic?

These are 'the politics of the left'.

Yes gay marriage is satanic. It isn’t a marriage, it is a lie. Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Promoting it and trying to normalize it only damn people to hell. Something Satan would be proud of.

When did we ever claim woman can’t earn the same pay as men?

When did we ever say women can be sexually harassed? We don’t support Doug Emhoff or BJ Clinton types.

Never said being good stewards of the earth is satanic, or that “healthcare” is satanic. Once again you are using strawman arguments.

 

[Skylar]

Why you keep arguing? This is gonna go to court and that's the end of it, cause it's clearly unconditional.

Its not the constitutionality. Its clearly a violation.

Its the intent. The impulse to FORCE their faith on the rest of us, to MAKE kids study the bible. That impulse has nothing to do with religious freedom. It is a dark, ugly side of Christianity that has marred most of its history.

Where Christians reject radical love that Jesus taught. And interpret the faith as a power to wield over others. Using it to justify everything from forced conversions, to torture, to inquisitions, to crusades to slavery.

That's not what Christ taught.

 

[toobfreak]

Of course children should be taught about God. Yet these liberals want to deny our children the opportunity to learn about God.

Well, I hear ya, but the State cannot impose or deny religion. What if you are Jewish or Hindu or Muslim?
The schools should OFFER Bible studies as an ELECTIVE, for students and parents interested but they cannot FORCE you to study it.

 

[toobfreak]

Yes gay marriage is satanic. It isn’t a marriage, it is a lie.

I will buy a gay civil union for legal reasons, but by definition for the past 5,000 years, marriage was by DEFINITION a holy pact between a man and a woman (and God).

 

[Arlette]

Its not the constitutionality. Its clearly a violation.

Its the intent. The impulse to FORCE their faith on the rest of us, to MAKE kids study the bible. That impulse has nothing to do with religious freedom. It is a dark, ugly side of Christianity that has marred most of its history.

Where Christians reject radical love that Jesus taught. And interpret the faith as a power to wield over others. Using it to justify everything from forced conversions, to torture, to inquisitions, to crusades to slavery.

That's not what Christ taught.

I just saw that. Autocorrect. Should read it's unconstitutional.

 

[Skylar]

Yes gay marriage is satanic. It isn’t a marriage, it is a lie.

Says who? Gay people have families. Why shouldn't they have marriages? Why deny them? There's literally no good reason.

There's so much intolerance in your worldview. Where if something doesn't fit it, you believe others should literally have their rights stripped from them.

You believe that homosexuality is an 'abomination', and because of that belief now a gay couple can't marry and raise their family?

Um, no. Your feelings aren't facts. And stripping people of their rights to FORCE them to abide your faith is another manifestation of that dark, ugly impulse among Christians that has marred your faith for literally thousands of years.

How is that loving your neighbor?

Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Promoting it and trying to normalize it only damn people to hell. Something Satan would be proud of.

When did we ever claim woman can’t earn the same pay as men?

I never said you did. I said that this was the 'politics of the left'. You've claimed that the 'politics of the left' was satanic. So I'm asking if these specific politics of the left (equal pay, protections from sexual harassment) were satanic.

Are they?

Y'all are the one's that are trying to eliminate no-fault divorce to FORCE women to stay in marriages they don't want to be in. Its not inconceivable that you would imagine that women shouldn't have the same rights or pay.

So I'm asking.

 

[theHawk]

You said there were only two genders. That you couldn't go from one to another. How does my friend fit in?

I've known her since we were kids. Being a dude didn't take. And intersex is as much as 3% of the population. So we're talking millions of Americans.

Why do you know better for her than she does?

There are only two genders. Male and female. An intersex is a genetic anomaly that crosses the two. It doesn’t make a third gender. They are still one gender with attributes of the other. It does not mean an XX can become a XY.

So stop lying about transgenderism by claiming it is about intersex people. This is proof you can’t defend transgenderism.

 

[Skylar]

I will buy a gay civil union for legal reasons, but by definition for the past 5,000 years, marriage was by DEFINITION a holy pact between a man and a woman (and God).

There's no requirement in any State that a marriage be religiously motivated. You can be agnostic or atheist and get married in 50 of 50 states.

So why would we exclude gay folks from marriage because they don't meet the 'holy pact between a man, woman and god' requirement that NO ONE is held to?

This is such a dumb issue for conservatives to hang their hat on. As it literally costs them nothing. And benefits millions of people.

 

[braalian]

I mean what about the Swine Flu vaccine in the 70s? At least that was in the Before Times, when the medical establishment could say, hey, our bad, we're revoking these.

Now, they just gaslight US into believing how great their products are when they clearly are not.

The FDA still pulls drugs based on new studies

Off the top of my head, I’ve stopped giving patients Zantac and darvocet. Both of which used to be very common in long term care

There’s been many others

 

[theHawk]

Says who? Gay people have families. Why shouldn't they have marriages? Why deny them? There's literally no good reason.

There's so much intolerance in your worldview. Where if something doesn't fit it, you believe others should literally have their rights stripped from them.

You believe that homosexuality is an 'abomination', and because of that belief now a gay couple can't marry and raise their family?

Um, no. Your feelings aren't facts. And stripping people of their rights to FORCE them to abide your faith is another manifestation of that dark, ugly impulse among Christians that has marred your faith for literally thousands of years.

How is that loving your neighbor?

God says so.

They can get married, to someone of the opposite sex.

Yes we are intolerant of evil and sinful things. Again, this is what is actually taught in the Bible. We are commanded to hate sin. A reason all these sins are being tolerated is because not enough people are reading and understanding the Bible.

Wrong, the homosexual has a choice to continue their ways or to repent. God isn’t going to force people to love him. This is what hell is, eternal separation from God.

What I “believe in” is of no consequence, the truth is God has declared it an abomination and a mortal sin. You can either accept the truth or reject it. I choose to accept it and not peddle the lies that it is “okay”, since that would likely damn people to hell.

Is it loving your neighbor to encourage mortal sin that would damn him or her to hell for all eternity? No, that is hatred. Loving your neighbor is have the courage to tell the truth to them. To warn them that their ways are leading them to a dark place. To encourage them to change their ways so they can get into heaven. That is loving thy neighbor. Not being a moral coward and appeasing evil.

 

[braalian]

God says so.

They can get married, to someone of the opposite sex.

Yes we are intolerant of evil and sinful things. Again, this is what is actually taught in the Bible. We are commanded to hate sin. A reason all these sins are being tolerated is because not enough people are reading and understanding the Bible.

Wrong, the homosexual has a choice to continue their ways or to repent. God isn’t going to force people to love him. This is what hell is, eternal separation from God.

What I “believe in” is of no consequence, the truth is God has declared it an abomination and a mortal sin. You can either accept the truth or reject it. I choose to accept it and not peddle the lies that it is “okay”, since that would likely damn people to hell.

Is it loving your neighbor to encourage mortal sin that would damn him or her to hell for all eternity? No, that is hatred. Loving your neighbor is have the courage to tell the truth to them. To warn them that their ways are leading them to a dark place. To encourage them to change their ways so they can get into heaven. That is loving thy neighbor. Not being a moral coward and appeasing evil.

Good thing you don’t get to decide

 

[Skylar]

God says so.

Whose God? I don't recall Zeus or Amaterasu saying anything about it. And if its YOUR faith's god, why do you feel compelled to impose your religious beliefs......on gay people? Its that ugly Christian impulse to MAKE people abide your faith again.

Again, what possible harm is caused to if a gay couple marry and raise a family? If anything, its a win for conservative family values. Folks wanting to marry, settle down, raise kids.

They can get married, to someone of the opposite sex.

Yes we are intolerant of evil and sinful things. Again, this is what is actually taught in the Bible. We are commanded to hate sin. A reason all these sins are being tolerated is because not enough people are reading and understanding the Bible.

Wrong, the homosexual has a choice to continue their ways or to repent. God isn’t going to force people to love him. This is what hell is, eternal separation from God.

What I “believe in” is of no consequence, the truth is God has declared it an abomination and a mortal sin. You can either accept the truth or reject it. I choose to accept it and not peddle the lies that it is “okay”, since that would likely damn people to hell.

Is it loving your neighbor to encourage mortal sin that would damn him or her to hell for all eternity? No, that is hatred. Loving your neighbor is have the courage to tell the truth to them. To warn them that their ways are leading them to a dark place. To encourage them to change their ways so they can get into heaven. That is loving thy neighbor. Not being a moral coward and appeasing evil.

This is all things you have faith in. And in your own life, I can fully understand why your faith would motivate your morals. But why do you feel compelled to FORCE your faith on unwilling people, to strip them of their rights and freedoms to MAKE them abide your faith?

This is the problem. The Christian impulse to make others study and follow their faith.

 

[theHawk]

Good thing you don’t get to decide

Bingo!

That is exactly right, I don’t get to decide what is right and wrong. That is paganism.

God decides what is right and wrong.

 

[g5000]

Of course children should be taught about God. Yet these liberals want to deny our children the opportunity to learn about God. Our Founding Fathers must be turning over in their graves.

---A group of Oklahoma parents of public school students, teachers and ministers filed a lawsuit Thursday seeking to stop the state's top education official from forcing schools to incorporate the Bible into lesson plans for students in grades 5 through 12.---

MSN

I'm surprised Donald Trump isn't suing to prevent kids from learning that adultery, stealing, bearing false witness, and coveting are very bad things in the eyes of God.

 

[braalian]

Bingo!

That is exactly right, I don’t get to decide what is right and wrong. That is paganism.

God decides what is right and wrong.

I meant you don’t get to decide public policy and who can marry who

Incidentally, neither does God.

 

[theHawk]

Again, what possible harm is caused to if a gay couple marry and raise a family? If anything, it’s a win for conservative family values. Folks wanting to marry, settle down, raise kids

Just ask the multitudes or kids sexually abused by gay men.

 

[theHawk]

I meant you don’t get to decide public policy and who can marry who

Incidentally, neither does God.

Wrong. We do get to decide.

 

[toobfreak]

There are only two genders. Male and female.

Period. Case closed. There is an X and a Y chromosome. There is not a single example of a third sex in nature in the entire plant or animal kingdom in the last 500 million years. Period. You are either male or female even if you are born with some physical anomaly or defect. Any and all other allusions to other "genders" CANNOT BE DEMONSTRATED nor objectively observed, tested or confirmed outside of the claimants own imagination, therefore, are only a mental aberration.

 

[g5000]

Just ask the multitudes or kids sexually abused by gay men.

You mean priests?

That's a helluva way for kids to learn about God, eh?

You do know the vast majority of child molesters are heterosexual, right?

 

[theHawk]

This is all things you have faith in. And in your own life, I can fully understand why your faith would motivate your morals. But why do you feel compelled to FORCE your faith on unwilling people, to strip them of their rights and freedoms to MAKE them abide your faith?

This is the problem. The Christian impulse to make others study and follow their faith

No one is forcing them. No one can force people to accept Jesus. They must do that on their own. But in order for them to make that choice, they must learn about Jesus and the Bible. Why are you so afraid of allowing kids to have access to that knowledge?