Lets Understand Why Trump Sending Those Guys to El Salvador is Illegal

[d0gbreath]

Sure, we haven't had a war since then.

We have not. Even Vietnam was a conflict.

 

[Meathead]

We have not. Even Vietnam was a conflict.

Seems to me that is commonly referred to as the "Vietnam War". So "conflict" is the new word for war, thus it shall heretofore be referred to the as the "Vietnam Conflict".

 

[d0gbreath]

Seems to me that is commonly referred to as the "Vietnam War". So "conflict" is the new word for war, thus it shall heretofore be referred to the as the "Vietnam Conflict".

No, you can still say Vietnam War. But, congress never declared war on North Vietnam. So, it's not official, just a nickname.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Glad to see like most Dims you're defending rapist and pedophiles. Has that working for ya?

In a way, I'm almost glad that the Democrat party is making it so damned clear as to their vision for America.

 

[Meathead]

No, you can still say Vietnam War. But, congress never declared war on North Vietnam. So, it's not official, just a nickname.

That is immaterial:

SEC. 2. And be it further enacted, That it shall be lawful for the President of the United States, whenever he may deem it necessary (for the public safety, to order to be removed out of the territory thereof, any alien who mayor shall be in prison in pursuance of this act; and to cause to be arrested and sent out of the United States such of those aliens as shall have been ordered to depart therefrom and shall not have obtained a license as aforesaid, in all cases where, in the opinion of the President, the public safety requires a speedy removal.

Alien and Sedition Acts (1798)​

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JoeB131 said:

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

What if he decides you’re dangerous? Shouldn’t you get due process?

I will get my due process because I'm not in the country illegally.

 

[citygator]

I will get my due process because I'm not in the country illegally.

Says you. How do I know? Better to just deport you.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Says you. How do I know? Better to just deport you.

After the agents talk to me for 60 seconds they're going to KNOW I'm from the Southern United States...lol

 

[Mack The Finger]

I just thought that I'd mention that that doesn't make any sense.

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Hey...that's the best post I have ever read.

 

[OKTexas]

Another sad excuse to try to justify Trump's illegal order. It is a civil crime.

That depends on how the govt decides to pursue it, if they chose the criminal route, it's punishable up to 6 months in jail for the 1st offense. 2nd+ offenses are felonies.

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[IM2]

I will get my due process because I'm not in the country illegally.

You get due process regardless. That is the law.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

You get due process regardless. That is the law.

Due process of the law doesn't necessarily mean a trial. The government is under no obligation to prove in court that someone is an illegal alien. A court cannot rule that an illegal alien isn't an illegal alien.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump invoked the 1798 Alien Enemies Act to deport those people to El Salvador. The problem with this is that the Act didn't cover this situation.

The Alien Enemies Act: What to know about a 1798 law that Trump has invoked for deportations​

What is the Alien Enemies Act?​

In 1798, with the U.S. preparing for what it believed would be a war with France, Congress passed a series of laws that increased the federal government's reach. The Alien Enemies Act was created to give the president wide powers to imprison and deport noncitizens in time of war.

Since then, the act has been used just three times: during the War of 1812, World War I and World War II.

It was part of the World War II legal rationale for mass internments in the U.S. of people of German, Italian and especially Japanese ancestry. An estimated 120,000 people with Japanese heritage, including those with U.S. citizenship, were incarcerated.

MSN

We are not at war with Venezuela. Therefore Trump had no right to do this.

We are at war with Globalists and their Illegal Alien foot soldiers

 

[Zafira Cherry]

All of them got DUE PROCESS, under Trump AND the Democrats. You are misunderstanding the term. You think due process means a full jury trial, public defender, multiple appeals, etc. as if they were American Citizens charged with crimes.

That is not the process due to illegal aliens.

Expedited removal allows immigration officials to quickly deport individuals who are determined to be inadmissible or deportable without a full removal hearing before an immigration judge.

Expedited Removal Explainer

Expedited removal is a process by which low-level immigration officers can quickly deport certain noncitizens who are undocumented or have committed fraud or misrepresentation.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

"His mother and brother insist?" That's your proof?

This must really be hard work for you guys, twisting and turn to never admit being wrong, when you so often are.

It isn't true, but if it were true that he is just a poor hardworking barber, so what? He was in the country illegally, and slated to be deported according to your own article:

He was subsequently released by a Texas judge last April on the condition that he wore an electronic bracelet to monitor his movements before he could be repatriated to Venezuela, she said, only for ICE to arrest him again on February 6 this year.

So, he was in court. He got his day in court. That's his due process. Don't you TDS folk ever get tired of looking dumb all the time?

You know what? Being a barber requires a license in every state I imagine. Texas for sure because I live here. He was a barber in Texas and we know his name because we know who his mother is? What's his licence number?

Or . . . is he an "undocumented barber?"



It's too bad if he is not a gang member and got caught up in the sweep. But he should have listened when Karoline Leavett warned ALL illegal aliens to self-deport, to avoid this kind of thing, and to have a chance to come into the country legally after going through the process and waiting in line like honest immigrants. His mamma should have told him to do that.

This is the problem the judge created that ordered them to take illegals out of Gitmo. He would still be in American hands and at least have human rights as Americans understand them.

FlopSweat...

Looks like many other were denied due process including a QUEER. We all know how much the MAGGATs despise QUEERS.
Floppy.. there is NO REQUIREMENT to be a US Citizen to obtain a Barbers license in the state of Texas. Typical uneducated Trump voter

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Queer Venezuelan deported and 'disappeared' over mischaracterized tattoos, lawyer says

ICE agents claimed the tattoos signified membership in the Venezuelan criminal group Tren de Aragua, but his lawyers say they have deported an innocent artist.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Seymour Flops]

FlopSweat...

Looks like many other were denied due process including a QUEER. We all know how much the MAGGATs despise QUEERS.

Did all the millions of people deported under Clinton, Obama, and Biden get full due process?

Were any QUEERS in those millions?

Floppy.. there is NO REQUIREMENT to be a US Citizen to obtain a Barbers license in the state of Texas. Typical uneducated Trump voter

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Queer Venezuelan deported and 'disappeared' over mischaracterized tattoos, lawyer says

ICE agents claimed the tattoos signified membership in the Venezuelan criminal group Tren de Aragua, but his lawyers say they have deported an innocent artist.

www.yahoo.com

Never said their was. I asked if he was an undocumented barber, i.e. with no license, not if he was an undocumented immigrant. We know that.

What's his barber's license number, if he's a barber in Texas?

 

[Zafira Cherry]

Did all the millions of people deported under Clinton, Obama, and Biden get full due process?

Were any QUEERS in those millions?

Never said their was. I asked if he was an undocumented barber, i.e. with no license, not if he was an undocumented immigrant. We know that.

What's his barber's license number, if he's a barber in Texas?

FlopSweat... you did say it was a requirement

"You know what? Being a barber requires a license in every state I imagine. Texas for sure because I live here. He was a barber in Texas and we know his name because we know who his mother is? What's his licence number?"

FlopSweat.. look the license number up yourself

And here is ANOTHER one being denied DUE PROCESS

Venezuelan migrant deported from U.S. to El Salvador has no record, docs show

In February, at a routine ICE check-in in Texas, Franco José Caraballo Tiapa was unexpectedly detained, and on Saturday, his wife lost contact with him.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Zafira Cherry]

You get due process regardless. That is the law.

CULTISTS disagree with you

 

[jknowgood]

Trump invoked the 1798 Alien Enemies Act to deport those people to El Salvador. The problem with this is that the Act didn't cover this situation.

The Alien Enemies Act: What to know about a 1798 law that Trump has invoked for deportations​

What is the Alien Enemies Act?​

In 1798, with the U.S. preparing for what it believed would be a war with France, Congress passed a series of laws that increased the federal government's reach. The Alien Enemies Act was created to give the president wide powers to imprison and deport noncitizens in time of war.

Since then, the act has been used just three times: during the War of 1812, World War I and World War II.

It was part of the World War II legal rationale for mass internments in the U.S. of people of German, Italian and especially Japanese ancestry. An estimated 120,000 people with Japanese heritage, including those with U.S. citizenship, were incarcerated.

MSN

We are not at war with Venezuela. Therefore Trump had no right to do this.

Maybe you or one of your loved ones needs to meet and see how ugly these guys really are. Since you don't care what happens to your fellow Americans.

 

[IM2]

Maybe you or one of your loved ones needs to meet and see how ugly these guys really are. Since you don't care what happens to your fellow Americans.

Maybe you need to stop believing lies. Because it has been revealed that many of these men, perhaps all of them had nothing to do with gangs.

 

[jknowgood]

Maybe you need to stop believing lies. Because it has been revealed that many of these men, perhaps all of them had nothing to do with gangs.

I stand by what I said.