Let's Discuss The Ramifications Of Mob Rule

[OKTexas]

Decent enough thread on it's face, however, who is the mob referring to in your mind?

Any mob who sets their sights on the denial of the rights of others. Ideology is irrelevant, the point is our system of civil rights and our right to exercise them in a lawful manner unmolested. Can we continue to allow anyone to physically prevent others from expressing their views and expect our society to survive?


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You have it backwards. Society cannot survive if the bullshit about all races being equal is accepted as that is totally untrue. There is life unworthy of life and ideas unworthy of society. America was founded by white men for white men. If you want to march around with your faggot flag get your faggot ass on a boat to Africa.

Run along child, adults are talking. You're not welcome here.


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Oh, I thought you were Mr. First Amendment big man on campus, faggot boy? I guess not.

Evidently your comprehension skills are sub standard, I asked for no finger pointing to keep the discussion ideologically neutral. If you can't comply with that move on.


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[OKTexas]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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So you telling me to go away wasn't interference? Maybe you should try making up your mind.

I set some ground rules in the OP, if you can act like a civil human move on.


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[eightyeight]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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So you telling me to go away wasn't interference? Maybe you should try making up your mind.

I set some ground rules in the OP, if you can act like a civil human move on.


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What makes you think you have the right to set the rules here? Are you really that fucking dumb, Tex?

And your rules or shut up? You sound exactly like the mobs you say you hate.

 

[eightyeight]

Decent enough thread on it's face, however, who is the mob referring to in your mind?

Any mob who sets their sights on the denial of the rights of others. Ideology is irrelevant, the point is our system of civil rights and our right to exercise them in a lawful manner unmolested. Can we continue to allow anyone to physically prevent others from expressing their views and expect our society to survive?


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You have it backwards. Society cannot survive if the bullshit about all races being equal is accepted as that is totally untrue. There is life unworthy of life and ideas unworthy of society. America was founded by white men for white men. If you want to march around with your faggot flag get your faggot ass on a boat to Africa.

Run along child, adults are talking. You're not welcome here.


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Oh, I thought you were Mr. First Amendment big man on campus, faggot boy? I guess not.

Evidently your comprehension skills are sub standard, I asked for no finger pointing to keep the discussion ideologically neutral. If you can't comply with that move on.


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Mobs like free speech about as much as you do.

 

[OKTexas]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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So you telling me to go away wasn't interference? Maybe you should try making up your mind.

I set some ground rules in the OP, if you can act like a civil human move on.


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What makes you think you have the right to set the rules here? Are you really that fucking dumb, Tex?

And your rules or shut up? You sound exactly like the mobs you say you hate.

It's my thread dip shit, I guess I'm doing something right today, I've had regressives call me a nazi sympathizer and a fucking nazi call me a fagot. But if you can't keep the discussion ideologically neutral, I'll be happy to introduce you to the Mods.


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[xotoxi]

Let's discuss the ramifications of not condeming " mob rule".

The ramifications are, MORE mob rule, and that's what is going to occur if the left and their media doesn't condemn BOTH sides now!

What happens if next time they bring guns instead of clubs and both sides use them?


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The war of the races is overdue. Besides, they can't shoot for shit.

Fuck off and die puke, I spent more than 20 years in the military to preserve our country, not yours. BTW I can shoot just fine.


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Seems you have no trouble telling others to shut up when you don't like what they say? All you now is a mob

I see a ban coming.

 

[occupied]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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They are goddamned nazis, remember them? You may somehow differentiate these people from the monsters that murdered millions in WWII but they are exactly the same. Their bullshit does not deserve the same level of forbearance we have for a boy scout rally and they should never take precedence over the entire rest of America who really, really do not like them at all. What about the far more numerous group of Americans who despise hate groups? You would segregate them to some remote free-speech-zone just so the Nazis could have a hater circle-jerk n peace?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We as citizens are guaranteed certain rights both under our Constitution and laws. We are guaranteed the right to peaceably assemble and express our views and opinions and not be molested by the government or other citizens. When we start allowing a mob to veto our rights this country is destine for destruction.

Take the emotion out of it and concentrate completely on our system. No matter how repugnant a persons views are, no one and I mean no one has the right to physically assault or block the path of peaceful demonstrations. If the demonstrators start getting violent it is the job of law enforcement to deal with the situation. No mob, counter protest or what you chose to call them has the right to deny anyone their constitutionally guaranteed rights. If you want to see the country destroyed, feel free to keep cheering the mob on.

This is not a thread for finger pointing, it is for a discussion on how we preserve our rights and our country.


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Only the child or child-like dutifully pursues the hopeless fairy tail of Utopia. Generally, the immature minds of children are incapable of withstanding any challenge to their partially-understood concept of "righteousness." believing that the messenger delivering any challenging or contrary message is inherently unrighteous, and allowing that messenger to deliver the challenging message is also unrighteous. These child-like drones are lovingly referred to as "useful idiots" by their politically ambitious overlords (who know that Utopia is bullshit and impossible, but the pursuit thereof is a means of wielding power for themselves).

The mature mind understands that sunshine is the best disinfectant, and the fool is only outed as such when he opens his mouth. The above-mentioned overlord knows that his message, when dissected by the public, will be deemed foolishness. The mature mind wants the overlord's idiotic message open for all to see, so said overlord is constantly trying to hide or disguise that message and disguise his true identity.

Thus, ANTIFA and the other useful idiots shout down opposing messages, believing their actions are righteous, and their overlords, knowing how unpopular and idiotic their ideology is, continue to hide their true communist identity and message.

First they called themselves communists, then progressives, then liberals, then communists for about two minutes, then socialist for another two minutes, then back to liberals, and now back to progressives. Somewhere in there, they called themselves Marxists, but that was too easy for the adults to discover, so it was quickly changed. Next, they may hijack the "conservative" moniker, who knows. But, they are still communists.

Communism cannot compete with capitalism, ever, period. The only way communism "works" (I should say "sticks") is if there is no other choice, which is why they must take America. But, they can't. We can resist. We have guns. They know it.

So, they continue to let their useful idiots act like the children they are, purely out of frustration and protest. It's glorious to watch and the red tears are delicious.

Sorry, commies. You will never take America. Cry.

 

[xotoxi]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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If a military veteran decided to punch a Westboro Baptist Church member in the face because he was fed up with them protesting his brother's funeral and saying that God hated him and that it was good that he died...would you say that his "ideas are inferior" to theirs?

 

[OKTexas]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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They are goddamned nazis, remember them? You may somehow differentiate these people from the monsters that murdered millions in WWII but they are exactly the same. Their bullshit does not deserve the same level of forbearance we have for a boy scout rally and they should never take precedence over the entire rest of America who really, really do not like them at all. What about the far more numerous group of Americans who despise hate groups? You would segregate them to some remote free-speech-zone just so the Nazis could have a hater circle-jerk n peace?

Great, how about I take the same attitude toward anyone I disagree with and shut you down and kick your ass every time you try to speak. If we acquiesce the first time where does it end. In my opinion the best path is to protect everyone or you can legally protect no one. Is that a country you want to live in?


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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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If a military veteran decided to punch a Westboro Baptist Church member in the face because he was fed up with them protesting his brother's funeral and saying that God hated him and that it was good that he died...would you say that his "ideas are inferior" to theirs?

What message was the veteran trying to convey?

 

[OKTexas]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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If a military veteran decided to punch a Westboro Baptist Church member in the face because he was fed up with them protesting his brother's funeral and saying that God hated him and that it was good that he died...would you say that his "ideas are inferior" to theirs?

The best way to treat extremist on all sides is to ignore them, when they don't get the attention they crave they will go away. If they try to turn their ideas into action, we have systems in place to deal with them on that level also. But when we abandon the systems society have established we are done as a society.


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[occupied]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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They are goddamned nazis, remember them? You may somehow differentiate these people from the monsters that murdered millions in WWII but they are exactly the same. Their bullshit does not deserve the same level of forbearance we have for a boy scout rally and they should never take precedence over the entire rest of America who really, really do not like them at all. What about the far more numerous group of Americans who despise hate groups? You would segregate them to some remote free-speech-zone just so the Nazis could have a hater circle-jerk n peace?

Great, how about I take the same attitude toward anyone I disagree with and shut you down and kick your ass every time you try to speak. If we acquiesce the first time where does it end. In my opinion the best path is to protect everyone or you can legally protect no one. Is that a country you want to live in?


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Any man preaching that toxic bullshit should have at least one man equal in all respects right in his face telling him he is full of shit. Do you get it now? Hate preachers are supposed to be shouted down by a decent people, it's the very basis of democracy.

Let's use an example of a group we can both equally despise. Suppose NAMBLA wanted to have a rally in your downtown. Think they ought to be allowed to preach the joys of man-boy love without opposition? Wouldn't you want to turn out give them the very worst welcome you could manage? How about Westborough church? Think they ought to be able to picket military funerals without counter protestors to shout them down?

Now realize that a lot of very decent people put Nazis, pederasts, and those who insult our war dead in the same bucket.

 

[OKTexas]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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They are goddamned nazis, remember them? You may somehow differentiate these people from the monsters that murdered millions in WWII but they are exactly the same. Their bullshit does not deserve the same level of forbearance we have for a boy scout rally and they should never take precedence over the entire rest of America who really, really do not like them at all. What about the far more numerous group of Americans who despise hate groups? You would segregate them to some remote free-speech-zone just so the Nazis could have a hater circle-jerk n peace?

Great, how about I take the same attitude toward anyone I disagree with and shut you down and kick your ass every time you try to speak. If we acquiesce the first time where does it end. In my opinion the best path is to protect everyone or you can legally protect no one. Is that a country you want to live in?


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Any man preaching that toxic bullshit should have at least one man equal in all respects right in his face telling him he is full of shit. Do you get it now? Hate preachers are supposed to be shouted down by a decent people, it's the very basis of democracy.

Let's use an example of a group we can both equally despise. Suppose NAMBLA wanted to have a rally in your downtown. Think they ought to be allowed to preach the joys of man-boy love without opposition? Wouldn't you want to turn out give them the very worst welcome you could manage? How about Westborough church? Think they ought to be able to picket military funerals without counter protestors to shout them down?

Now realize that a lot of very decent people put Nazis, pederasts, and those who insult our war dead in the same bucket.

See post #34.

BTW who do you declare to be the arbitrator of hate?


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[xotoxi]

Let's just say...for the sake of argument...a different group decided to March peacefully through the the streets of an American town.

Would you take umbrage with a violent counter-protest?

 

[xotoxi]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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If a military veteran decided to punch a Westboro Baptist Church member in the face because he was fed up with them protesting his brother's funeral and saying that God hated him and that it was good that he died...would you say that his "ideas are inferior" to theirs?

What message was the veteran trying to convey?

That God Loves Fags.

 

[OKTexas]

Let's just say...for the sake of argument...a different group decided to March peacefully through the the streets of an American town.

Would you take umbrage with a violent counter-protest?

Yep, that's what we have law enforcement for.


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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

That God Loves Fags

The Veteran? The guy throwing the punch?

 

[occupied]

The first amendment does not mean that you should be protected from other people's first amendment rights. Understand that no Nazi is going to goosestep around in America without someone wanting to kick their ass. That is exactly how it ought to be.

Bullshit, everyone has a right to speak their peace without interference, kicking ass proves you are no better than they are and your ideas are inferior.


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They are goddamned nazis, remember them? You may somehow differentiate these people from the monsters that murdered millions in WWII but they are exactly the same. Their bullshit does not deserve the same level of forbearance we have for a boy scout rally and they should never take precedence over the entire rest of America who really, really do not like them at all. What about the far more numerous group of Americans who despise hate groups? You would segregate them to some remote free-speech-zone just so the Nazis could have a hater circle-jerk n peace?

Great, how about I take the same attitude toward anyone I disagree with and shut you down and kick your ass every time you try to speak. If we acquiesce the first time where does it end. In my opinion the best path is to protect everyone or you can legally protect no one. Is that a country you want to live in?


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Any man preaching that toxic bullshit should have at least one man equal in all respects right in his face telling him he is full of shit. Do you get it now? Hate preachers are supposed to be shouted down by a decent people, it's the very basis of democracy.

Let's use an example of a group we can both equally despise. Suppose NAMBLA wanted to have a rally in your downtown. Think they ought to be allowed to preach the joys of man-boy love without opposition? Wouldn't you want to turn out give them the very worst welcome you could manage? How about Westborough church? Think they ought to be able to picket military funerals without counter protestors to shout them down?

Now realize that a lot of very decent people put Nazis, pederasts, and those who insult our war dead in the same bucket.

See post #34.


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Yeah it's bullshit. Are you familiar with the term "Good German"? I am sure you are but for anyone else reading this it refers to how the German people were blinded by propaganda and patriotism into accepting horrible things being done in their names. Don't be a "Good American" and let your conservatism blind you into just accepting these horrible people as your own. They are already ruining your brand far more than you know.

 

[xotoxi]

That God Loves Fags

The Veteran? The guy throwing the punch?

You asked.