Leftist sympathy for the Palestinians

[Hector12]

Oh, not this shit again.

Most people on welfare are white, and that's not even talking about "Entitlements" paid to old white people who've outlived their usefulness.

Most people on weflare are only on it for a short time, and you REALLY have to be destitute to qualify for it.

Nope, black people have done well because once you remove shit like Jim Crow, they do pretty well in the workplace. They even get paid more than you did.

Blacks are much more likely to be on welfare than whites.

The War on Poverty has not changed poor blacks into self supporting, tax paying, and law abiding people. It has changed them into an unemployable underclass, the members of whom often supplement their welfare checks with the gains of criminal activities.

 

[JoeB131]

Blacks are much more likely to be on welfare than whites.

43% are white, 23% are black.

Um, whites are more likely.
And that's counting ACTUAL welfare, and not middle-class entitlements, which benefit white folks.

"but, but, but, I paid into that... or my employer did... so it shouldn't count!"

 

[Hector12]

43% are white, 23% are black.

Um, whites are more likely.
And that's counting ACTUAL welfare, and not middle-class entitlements, which benefit white folks.

"but, but, but, I paid into that... or my employer did... so it shouldn't count!"

You do not seem to understand how percentages work.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Except, as I have pointed out to you many times, the black poverty rate has gone from 55% to 17% in two generations, by merely removing SOME of the institutionalized discrimination that blacks encounter.

How much of that decrease is because they receive a government check and how much is because they graduated from school and got a job?

 

[Hector12]

How much of that decrease is because they receive a government check and how much is because they graduated from school and got a job?

And how much is due to affirmative action that lowered standards for blacks?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

43% are white, 23% are black.

Um, whites are more likely.
And that's counting ACTUAL welfare, and not middle-class entitlements, which benefit white folks.

"but, but, but, I paid into that... or my employer did... so it shouldn't count!"

43% are white, 23% are black.

Are you IM2? He can't do math either.

 

[M14 Shooter]

43% are white, 23% are black.
Are you IM2? He can't do math either.

Hispanic is a white ethnicity, so its actually 69% white.
But that doesn't change the fact blacks are over-represented by almost 200%

 

[JoeB131]

You do not seem to understand how percentages work.

I understand them fine.

There are more white folks on welfare than black folks.

How much of that decrease is because they receive a government check and how much is because they graduated from school and got a job?

Oh, definitely because they get jobs, when you treat them fairly. Welfare is a trap.

 

[Hector12]

I understand them fine.

There are more white folks on welfare than black folks.

The percentage of Negroes on welfare is higher than the percentage of whites on welfare.

 

[JoeB131]

The percentage of Negroes on welfare is higher than the percentage of whites on welfare.

More white people are welfare than black people.

Yet you never rant about white people on welfare.

Why is that?

 

[Hollie]

You miss the point entirely.

Zionism is a Western colonialist viewpoint. It's the old "White Man's Burden".

No one expects the Palestinians to embrace our values. (Although the Palestinians tend to be more secular than their Islamic brethren, such as our good buddies, the Saudis).

However, it's wrong for the world to realize that colonialism is wrong, and then give the Zionist Entity a pass because we still feel a sad about the Holocaust.

It is you who misses the point. Leftism is a retrograde, self-loathing politico-religious ideology.

 

[JoeB131]

It is you who misses the point. Leftism is a retrograde, self-loathing politico-religious ideology.

Wow, did your AI feature work extra hard to come up with that word salad, Chatbot?

 

[Hollie]

Wow, did your AI feature work extra hard to come up with that word salad, Chatbot?

Gee whiz. Did your self-loathing ideology cause you such hurt feelings, Chatbot?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I understand them fine.

There are more white folks on welfare than black folks.



Oh, definitely because they get jobs, when you treat them fairly. Welfare is a trap.

There are more white folks on welfare than black folks.

What percentage of whites are on welfare?
What percentage of blacks are on welfare?

Welfare is a trap.

A trap that got millions of blacks out of poverty, right?

 

[Hector12]

Posted on October 29, 2012

A Conversation with Arthur Jensen​

American Renaissance, August and September 1992

American Renaissance: You are probably most famous, still, for that Harvard Educational Review article.

Prof. Jensen: That’s true, yes. I think that’s probably one of the most over-cited articles in the history of psychology.

AR: Well, I’ve always assumed that article got the incredible amount of attention that it did because this was really the first time after the Second World War that someone had stated that there could very well be a genetic factor that accounts for the difference in black and white achievement...

AR: Well, it seems to me that if there are two racial groups that can live side by side in harmony, it appears to be whites and Asians...

Jensen: That may be true. But again, I’m wondering about the degree to which differences in basic characteristics may be at the basis of that. Where the differences in basic characteristics are not conspicuous, as in the case of Asians and whites, and when persons can fit in and do the same kinds of jobs and do them as well as anyone else, it may work. See, there are blacks who fit in this way too — who do all right.

But the black population in this country is in a sense burdened by the large number of persons who are at a level of g that is no longer very relevant to a highly industrialized, technological society. Once you get below IQs of 80 or 75, which is the cut-off for mental retardation in the California School System, children are put into special classes. These persons are not really educable up to a level for which there’s any economic demand. The question is, what do you do about them? They have higher birth-rates than the other end of the distribution.

People are shocked and disbelieving when you tell them that about one in four blacks in our population are in that category — below 75.

A Conversation with Arthur Jensen - American Renaissance

A 1992 interview with Jared Taylor.

www.amren.com

 

[Hector12]

More white people are welfare than black people.

Yet you never rant about white people on welfare.

Why is that?

What I am really opposed to is the government supporting unmarried mothers and their illegitimate children with welfare checks. If illegitimacy is an acceptable life style, as you maintain, those who choose this life style should support it themselves. The "fathers" of these illegitimate children should support them, if anyone knows who the fathers are. Often the mothers are not sure. Those who help children whose fathers do not care about them perpetuate the loss of the paternal instinct in humans.

Most of the "fathers" of whom I speak would rather be "a sex machine with all the chicks" than a responsible father and husband.

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Percentage of Births to Unmarried Women​

Roger Clegg February 26, 2020Culture & Society, Uncategorized

Besides which country you are born in, in my view the most important factor by far in explaining disparities in all manner of life outcomes (poverty, unemployment, crime, education, you name it) is whether you were born out-of-wedlock. And since Americans are very interested in racial disparities, from time to time I post the federal government’s latest data on this topic.

Late last year, the final data for 2018 were published here (the key is Table 9 on page 25), and here’s what we learn: For all racial and ethnic groups combined, 39.6 percent of births in the United States were out-of-wedlock (incidentally, isn’t that appalling?). And there was as always a tremendous range among groups. For blacks, the number is 69.4 percent; for American Indians/Alaska Natives, 68.2 percent (Native Hawaiians/Other Pacific Islanders were at 50.4 percent); for Hispanics, 51.8 percent; for whites, 28.2 percent; and for Asian Americans, a paltry 11.7 percent.

Percentage of Births to Unmarried Women | Center for Equal Opportunity

ceousa.org

 

[JoeB131]

There are more white folks on welfare than black folks.

What percentage of whites are on welfare?
What percentage of blacks are on welfare?

Welfare is a trap.

A trap that got millions of blacks out of poverty, right?

Well, no, I don't think it got anyone "out of poverty". What got people out of poverty were improved opportunities and improved economies when Republicans aren't fucking it up for everyone.

But there are more white people on welfare than black people, and that's not including "White People Welfare" like Social Security and Medicare.

 

[Hollie]

Well, no, I don't think it got anyone "out of poverty". What got people out of poverty were improved opportunities and improved economies when Republicans aren't fucking it up for everyone.

But there are more white people on welfare than black people, and that's not including "White People Welfare" like Social Security and Medicare.

Settle down, angry Chatbot. You're quick to ignore the history of the Democrat party, the " Party of Slavery'' which kept generations in poverty.

Further, Chatbot, you will be shocked to discover that Social Security and Medicare have nothing to do with whiteness. Your obsession with self-hate and hate for white people is a pathology you need help with.

 

[JoeB131]

What I am really opposed to is the government supporting unmarried mothers and their illegitimate children with welfare checks. If illegitimacy is an acceptable life style, as you maintain, those who choose this life style should support it themselves. The "fathers" of these illegitimate children should support them, if anyone knows who the fathers are. Often the mothers are not sure. Those who help children whose fathers do not care about them perpetuate the loss of the paternal instinct in humans.

Most of the "fathers" of whom I speak would rather be "a sex machine with all the chicks" than a responsible father and husband.

Bullshit, guy. First nearly all these women know who their sperm donors are. They write "unknown" to game the system. Everyone fucking games the system, guy, from the Billionaire who takes tax breaks to the welfare mom who writes "unknown" on a birth certificate to collect more benefits.

I used to have discussions with a guy from Cleveland on this board, who whined all day about his black Section 8 neighbors, while he was at home on a "disability". Of course, this guy was perfectly capable of working a customer service job, if he could sit at a computer all day. Eventually, this guy died of Cancer, I think, and just stopped posting, no doubt dying alone, miserable and unhappy.

Don't be that guy, Hector.

Second, the Sperm Donors do support their kids. Sure, you got the guy who has multiple kids by multiple women (mostly because the Prison-Industrial Complex reduces the number of available men), but studies have shown that these men are often more engaged than their white counterparts in child-rearing.

Now, I would be the first one to replace "welfare" with "workfare". You get benefits, you are required to show up at a certain place at a certain time and perform a minimum of 8 hours of productive work a day. If kids are an issue, we set up daycares and some of you can work there.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well, no, I don't think it got anyone "out of poverty". What got people out of poverty were improved opportunities and improved economies when Republicans aren't fucking it up for everyone.

But there are more white people on welfare than black people, and that's not including "White People Welfare" like Social Security and Medicare.

We're spending trillions on welfare and it doesn't even get people out of poverty?

But there are more white people on welfare than black people,

What's the percentage of white and black people on welfare?