Let us just say it, the Republicans are the problem

[Luckyone]

You people believe any and all criticism of Obama is racist. Be intellectually accountable and use facts or events to prove my comments are rooted in racism or misinformation.

I don't what your comments are rooted on but you have yet to show me proof of your statements with links to data that proves them. Without that proof, your comments are misinformed and given they state racism on the mother's part, it suggests you are racist. Only racists make comments about others being racists, which are not backed up with facts.

 

[Woodznutz]

but she married a Black man! explain how your statement can be supported by that fact!

I'm speaking of his grandmother, not his mother.

 

[Mac-7]

Explain this picture then, of Obama's mother on her wedding day with his father:

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As far as the comments that you said she made, give me a link to those facts!

That was misspeak on my part

I meant to say obama’s grandmother which is who we were discussing

 

[Luckyone]

I'm really focusing on the ability to produce. Men produce more by virtue of the fact that we are stronger physically and more organized mentally as well as work and production oriented.

But all this is a sideshow compared to how our society should be organized, that is men in the workplace, women as mothers and homemakers. Our falling birthrate is the canary in the coal mine that tells us that more women need to return to those roles.

I am not going to argue the point because it is meaningless. Neither you nor I (nor anyone else) can change how the world progresses in thinking and otherwise.

When in any past times, did we ever see anything like this?

 

[Mac-7]

I'm speaking of his grandmother, not his mother.

My apologies

I caused that confusion by not editing my post and making sure to write “grandmother” instead of mother

When you are dealing with libs there is no room for error

 

[Mac-7]

I am not going to argue the point because it is meaningless. Neither you nor I (nor anyone else) can change how the world progresses in thinking and otherwise.

When in any past times, did we ever see anything like this?

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dont bet the rent money on the black woman winning a wrestling match against the white man

 

[Luckyone]

That was misspeak on my part

I meant to say obama’s grandmother which is who we were discussing

Even then, this is fact:

Obama's grandmother a force that shaped him​

This is the woman who raised Obama in the absence of his parents. The daughter of a Midwest oil company clerk who "taught me values straight from the Kansas heartland" — things like "accountability and self-reliance. Love of country. Working hard without making excuses. Treating your neighbor as you'd like to be treated."

This pic shows that she is NOT racist. She made have made some inappropriate and perhaps wrong comments that may have "appeared" as racist, but no one can be called a racist when raising a Black child herself and loving him as she did.

 

[Mac-7]

Even then, this is fact:

Obama's grandmother a force that shaped him​

This is the woman who raised Obama in the absence of his parents. The daughter of a Midwest oil company clerk who "taught me values straight from the Kansas heartland" — things like "accountability and self-reliance. Love of country. Working hard without making excuses. Treating your neighbor as you'd like to be treated."

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As a politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth obama can praise her when necessary and at other times trash her

 

[berg80]

Here's another article along the same vein also written by a (former) Repub. It's an excellent read.

I’ve been a Republican all my adult life. I have worked on the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal, at Forbes magazine, at the Manhattan and American Enterprise Institutes, as a speechwriter in the George W. Bush administration. I believe in free markets, low taxes, reasonable regulation, and limited government. I voted for John McCain in 2008, and I have strongly criticized the major policy decisions of the Obama administration. But as I contemplate my party and my movement in 2011, I see things I simply cannot support.

America desperately needs a responsible and compassionate alternative to the Obama administration’s path of bigger government at higher cost. And yet: This past summer, the GOP nearly forced America to the verge of default just to score a point in a budget debate. In the throes of the worst economic crisis since the Depression, Republican politicians demand massive budget cuts and shrug off the concerns of the unemployed. In the face of evidence of dwindling upward mobility and long-stagnating middle-class wages, my party’s economic ideas sometimes seem to have shrunk to just one: more tax cuts for the very highest earners. When I entered Republican politics, during an earlier period of malaise, in the late seventies and early eighties, the movement got most of the big questions—crime, inflation, the Cold War—right. This time, the party is getting the big questions disastrously wrong.

David Frum on the GOP’s Lost Sense of Reality -- New York Magazine - Nymag

It’s a very strange experience to have your friends think you’ve gone crazy. Some will tell you so. Others will indulgently humor you. Still others will avoid you. More than a few will demand that the authorities do something to get you off the [...]

nymag.com

This is before Dotard's escalator ride, McTreason helping to pack the Court, Jan. 6 and the plot to steal the election, the SC making up presidential immunity out of thin air, the end of Jack Smith's prosecutions, conservative media becoming a vehicle for a deluge of disinformation, the violations of court orders, the acquiescence of congressional Repubs to anything Don wants. Back in 2011 Repubs were just being obstinate obstructionists. Now they are leaning in to autocracy.

 

[Luckyone]

As a politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth obama can praise her when necessary and at other times trash her

I updated the post after you read it, check it again for the comment made "below the picture"

 

[Mac-7]

Here's another article along the same vein also written by a (former) Repub. It's an excellent read.

I’ve been a Republican all my adult life. I have worked on the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal, at Forbes magazine, at the Manhattan and American Enterprise Institutes, as a speechwriter in the George W. Bush administration. I believe in free markets, low taxes, reasonable regulation, and limited government. I voted for John McCain in 2008, and I have strongly criticized the major policy decisions of the Obama administration. But as I contemplate my party and my movement in 2011, I see things I simply cannot support.

America desperately needs a responsible and compassionate alternative to the Obama administration’s path of bigger government at higher cost. And yet: This past summer, the GOP nearly forced America to the verge of default just to score a point in a budget debate. In the throes of the worst economic crisis since the Depression, Republican politicians demand massive budget cuts and shrug off the concerns of the unemployed. In the face of evidence of dwindling upward mobility and long-stagnating middle-class wages, my party’s economic ideas sometimes seem to have shrunk to just one: more tax cuts for the very highest earners. When I entered Republican politics, during an earlier period of malaise, in the late seventies and early eighties, the movement got most of the big questions—crime, inflation, the Cold War—right. This time, the party is getting the big questions disastrously wrong.

David Frum on the GOP’s Lost Sense of Reality -- New York Magazine - Nymag

It’s a very strange experience to have your friends think you’ve gone crazy. Some will tell you so. Others will indulgently humor you. Still others will avoid you. More than a few will demand that the authorities do something to get you off the [...]

nymag.com

This is before Dotard's escalator ride, McTreason helping to pack the Court, Jan. 6 and the plot to steal the election, the SC making up presidential immunity out of thin air, the end of Jack Smith's prosecutions, the violations of court orders, the acquiescence of congressional Repubs to anything Don wants. Back in 2011 Repubs were just being obstinate obstructionists. Now they are leaning in to autocracy.

David Frum is your idea of a former republican who speaks for MAGAs today?

Dont make me laugh

David Jeffrey Frum (/frʌm/; born 30 June 1960)<a href="David Frum - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> is a Canadian-American political commentator and a former speechwriter for PresidentGeorge W. Bush. He is a senior editor at The Atlantic as well as an MSNBCcontributor.

 

[Mac-7]

Even then, this is fact:

Obama's grandmother a force that shaped him​

This is the woman who raised Obama in the absence of his parents. The daughter of a Midwest oil company clerk who "taught me values straight from the Kansas heartland" — things like "accountability and self-reliance. Love of country. Working hard without making excuses. Treating your neighbor as you'd like to be treated."

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This pic shows that she is NOT racist. She made have made some inappropriate and perhaps wrong comments that may have "appeared" as racist, but no one can be called a racist when raising a Black child herself and loving him as she did.

Dont tell me

Tell the embittered first black president with a racist chip on his shoulder

 

[struth]

It all started when a Black president (Obama) was elected. The Republicans started to shift away from compromise to "my way or the highway".

I still remember seeing this during Obama's State of the Union address:

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Actually that was when Obama mentioned signed a bill to extend the SOL for a woman to bring a discrimination lawsuit again an auto company…rather pointless law, and really only benefited the lady that missed the deadline

Here dems refused to clap for a 13 year old cancer survivor l…because they are heartless

Dems slammed for sitting as cancer survivor was honored during Trump's speech | Fox News

Most Democrats appeared to remain sitting as teen brain cancer survivor was asked to be made an honorary Secretary Service agent, which led to swift criticism on X on Tuesday night.

www.foxnews.com

 

[LeftofLeft]

I don't what your comments are rooted on but you have yet to show me proof of your statements with links to data that proves them. Without that proof, your comments are misinformed and given they state racism on the mother's part, it suggests you are racist. Only racists make comments about others being racists, which are not backed up with facts.

Bullshit. You are holding me accountable for no links as proof? What land of entitlement do you hail from?

* Obama’s comment on Trayvon Martin shooting …. FACT

* Obama comment on the Cambridge Police …… FACT

* Obama comment on the Nidal Hasan shooting Ft. Hood…. FACT

You are more than welcome to put down your “racist card” as a crutch and means to avoid thinking and providing actual facts to refute what I have sited.

 

[Woodznutz]

I am not going to argue the point because it is meaningless. Neither you nor I (nor anyone else) can change how the world progresses in thinking and otherwise.

When in any past times, did we ever see anything like this?

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Both are freaks.

Back in the day power lifters were so overbuilt that some wore "I Am a Freak" T-shirts. Maybe some still do.

 

[berg80]

The Bush years cannot be repudiated, but the memory of them can be discarded to make way for a new and more radical ideology, assembled from bits of the old GOP platform that were once sublimated by the party elites but now roam the land freely: ultralibertarianism, crank monetary theories, populist fury, and paranoid visions of a Democratic Party controlled by ACORN and the New Black Panthers. For the past three years, the media have praised the enthusiasm and energy the tea party has brought to the GOP. Yet it’s telling that that movement has failed time and again to produce even a remotely credible candidate for president. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich: The list of tea-party candidates reads like the early history of the U.S. space program, a series of humiliating fizzles and explosions that never achieved liftoff. A political movement that never took governing seriously was exploited by a succession of political entrepreneurs uninterested in governing—but all too interested in merchandising. Much as viewers tune in to American Idol to laugh at the inept, borderline dysfunctional early auditions, these tea-party champions provide a ghoulish type of news entertainment each time they reveal that they know nothing about public affairs and have never attempted to learn. But Cain’s gaffe on Libya or Perry’s brain freeze on the Department of Energy are not only indicators of bad leadership. They are indicators of a crisis of followership. The tea party never demanded knowledge or concern for governance, and so of course it never got them.

 

[berg80]

Obama’s comment on Trayvon Martin shooting …. FACT

What are you claiming is a fact? And what problem do you have with what he said?

Google Search

www.google.com

 

[struth]

The Bush years cannot be repudiated, but the memory of them can be discarded to make way for a new and more radical ideology, assembled from bits of the old GOP platform that were once sublimated by the party elites but now roam the land freely: ultralibertarianism, crank monetary theories, populist fury, and paranoid visions of a Democratic Party controlled by ACORN and the New Black Panthers. For the past three years, the media have praised the enthusiasm and energy the tea party has brought to the GOP. Yet it’s telling that that movement has failed time and again to produce even a remotely credible candidate for president. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich: The list of tea-party candidates reads like the early history of the U.S. space program, a series of humiliating fizzles and explosions that never achieved liftoff. A political movement that never took governing seriously was exploited by a succession of political entrepreneurs uninterested in governing—but all too interested in merchandising. Much as viewers tune in to American Idol to laugh at the inept, borderline dysfunctional early auditions, these tea-party champions provide a ghoulish type of news entertainment each time they reveal that they know nothing about public affairs and have never attempted to learn. But Cain’s gaffe on Libya or Perry’s brain freeze on the Department of Energy are not only indicators of bad leadership. They are indicators of a crisis of followership. The tea party never demanded knowledge or concern for governance, and so of course it never got them.

Ah ACORN, the dems turned that into a corrupt organization engaged in all sorts of criminal conduct

Thankfully it’s no more

 

[LeftofLeft]

What are you claiming is a fact? And what problem do you have with what he said?

Google Search

www.google.com

It was divisive.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

I'm not putting you down, I'm about as right-wing as they come. Even though I've joked about it to piss off the left, we just can't start throwing them out of helicopters. That's because realistically, this is still America. We're still a constitutional Republic that honors the rights of the minority, and gives them the same representation we the current majority has.

Granted, some of Trump's policies may not satisfy some of his supporters, but he was damned sure a far better choice than what the Democrats were trying to shove down our throats.

That is why I voted for him, however it doesn't make it any less painful when he does something stupid.