Let me see if I have this right.

[martybegan]

Ukraine was supposed to last a few days against the mighty Russian invasion. They expected Kyev to fold and Putin to install a puppet government.

Instead, Ukraine forces held on and forced the Russians back.
Putin expected the US and NATO to do nothing
Instead, we supplied high tech military supplies that are killing hundreds of thousands of Russians

And how many Ukrainians have died, and how many more men do they need to get Russia back to the 2014 borders?

Do you support NATO intervention in the war? Because without that, this isn't going to end well for Ukraine.

 

[DBA]

So.......when you can't deal with the facts, project your faults on to others.

Democrats don't deal in facts. They deal in spin, case in point, the apostrophe added to Biden's comments regarding garbage. That is pure spin and you know it, but many would like to pass it off as fact.

 

[rightwinger]

The last one didn't do such a great job either. Sounds like the government should get out of the way and let doctors deal with their own patients.

Sad to see so many morons still spreading lies and misinformation about vaccines.

 

[rightwinger]

And how many Ukrainians have died, and how many more men do they need to get Russia back to the 2014 borders?

Do you support NATO intervention in the war? Because without that, this isn't going to end well for Ukraine.

They choose to fight for their freedom
A quality the US used to defend.

Todays Republicans support Putin

 

[berg80]

And in her case, it would be even more obvious. She doesn't have an original thought in her head and no idea how to accomplish any of the things she's spouting.

Putting aside your fatuous assertion, I prefer her to someone who has thoughts in his head put there by authoritarians and despots.

 

[berg80]

Sounds like the government should get out of the way and let doctors deal with their own patients.

RFK's job will be to prevent that.

 

[rightwinger]

RFK's job will be to prevent that.

RFK will throw vaccinations into questions and remove any mandates for children to be vaccinated

 

[Hector12]

Elon Musk asks voters to brace for economic 'hardship,' deep spending cuts in potential Trump Cabinet role

“We have to reduce spending to live within our means,” Musk said. “And, you know, that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity.”

Trump's rich supporters will not face any economic hardship at all. They will get more tax cuts.

The poorly educated angry white men Trump pretends to love will face lots of hardship. I doubt that will change their attitude about Trump. He will tell them their hardship is the fault of Biden and Harris. They have believed his lies up too now.

 

[berg80]

Further proof Trump is unfit to be president.

And that is the point.

 

[berg80]

RFK will throw vaccinations into questions and remove any mandates for children to be vaccinated

Exposing them to preventable disease.

 

[berg80]

Democrats don't deal in facts. They deal in spin, case in point, the apostrophe added to Biden's comments regarding garbage. That is pure spin and you know it, but many would like to pass it off as fact.

This may come as a surprise to you, but I don't care if you take offense to what Biden said whether he said it the way you claim or not. The truth hurts.

 

[martybegan]

They choose to fight for their freedom
A quality the US used to defend.

Todays Republicans support Putin

No we don't. What we want is an answer on how the hell this is supposed to end.

 

[rightwinger]

No we don't. What we want is an answer on how the hell this is supposed to end.

Sorry Marty..

But I have to laugh at Republicans who authorized US invasions of Kuwait, Afghanistan and Iraq but are now outraged over the U.S. aid to Ukraine with NO US TROOPS

 

[martybegan]

Sorry Marty..

But I have to laugh at Republicans who authorized US invasions of Kuwait, Afghanistan and Iraq but are now outraged over the U.S. aid to Ukraine with NO US TROOPS

When did we invade Kuwait?

In the 1990 gulf war the goal was to expel Iraq from Kuwait. It worked.

In Iraq and Afghanistan 2002/2023 it was to establish stable friendly governments. It didn't work.

In Ukraine, Ukraine wants Donbas and Crimea back, and Russia want's them for themselves. Are we 100% in on Ukraine's goal?

 

[hadit]

Sad to see so many morons still spreading lies and misinformation about vaccines.

I argued with an anti-vaxxer once and my IQ went down just reading some of the things he/she/it said. Vaccines are perhaps the greatest advancement in the field of medicine we've seen and have saved untold numbers of lives. That being said, however, we do have to consider the long-term effects of loading up babies with a dozen or more shots within the first few months of life and make sure we're doing it as safely as possible. And, as always, people need to do their own research, not just blindly accept the "experts'" word for it.

 

[Delldude]

If trump is elected he's going to have RFK Jr. "go wild" on the US healthcare system.

Trump says he would let RFK Jr. 'go wild on medicines'
https://www.politico.com/video/2024...would-let-rfk-jr-go-wild-on-medicines-1466853

For the most part, Donald Trump has been mum on who he’d appoint to his administration if he wins.
But he has made one pretty clear promise: Trump has said he’ll let conspiracy theorist and vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “go wild” on health, food, and drug regulation. That could have massive consequences for public health and vaccine policy in America. If Kennedy were to completely get his way and deter vaccination, vaccine-preventable diseases like measles and polio could make a comeback.
Trump really could empower RFK Jr. to wreck public health

Elon Musk, trump's future budget czar, says the country needs to brace for hardship, a metaphor for the economy needing to be crashed.

Elon Musk asks voters to brace for economic 'hardship,' deep spending cuts in potential Trump Cabinet role

“We have to reduce spending to live within our means,” Musk said. “And, you know, that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity.”

Many economists agree that Trump’s economic and fiscal proposals could spark an economic calamity, though it is not clear whether they have considered, or given credence, to Musk’s calls for austerity.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/ec...-could-mean-hardship-for-americans-rcna177807

And the Orange Menace plans to suspend the constitutional rights of journalists and those suspected of breaking the law by prosecuting media critics and allowing law enforcement to really rough up criminals in retaliation for what they've done or accused of doing.

Trump says ‘violent day’ of policing will end crime
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/29/trump-violent-day-policing-crime-00181619

New Trump admin would try to prosecute journalists, former Trump adviser says
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/politics/kash-patel-trump-administration/index.html

If protests break out over journalists being jailed or economic "hardship" he's prepared to use the military to deal with it.

Trump suggests he’ll use the military on ‘the enemy from within’ the U.S. if he’s reelected
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...he-enemy-from-within-the-u-s-if-hes-reelected

During his first term as president, Donald Trump tested the limits of how he could use the military to achieve policy goals. If given a second term, the Republican and his allies are preparing to go much further, reimagining the military as an all-powerful tool to deploy on U.S. soil.

He has pledged to recall thousands of American troops from overseas and station them at the U.S. border with Mexico. He has explored using troops for domestic policy priorities such as deportations and confronting civil unrest. He has talked of weeding out military officers who are ideologically opposed to him.

Trump’s vision amounts to a potentially dramatic shift in the role of the military in U.S. society, carrying grave implications for both the country’s place in the world and the restraints that have traditionally been placed on domestic use of the military.
I find all this to be suboptimal. For trump supporters, it seems they have a choice to make. Vote for what he has promised, or believe he's lying about it.

Begging the question, if he's lying, if he doesn't plan on doing the things he says he is, what is his motivation for saying them?

Can trump supporters see why some Americans reject his vision for the next 4 years?

Trigged again I see.

 

[Mac-7]

So......your saying trump is lying?

I’m saying you are lying

 

[rightwinger]

And, as always, people need to do their own research, not just blindly accept the "experts'" word for it.

I will take the advice of my doctor and medical experts over what some crackpot on the internet is telling me

 

[martybegan]

I will take the advice of my doctor and medical experts over what some crackpot on the internet is telling me

Because those "experts" you go to are entrapped by the same dogma you are.

 

[hadit]

I will take the advice of my doctor and medical experts over what some crackpot on the internet is telling me

As long as that "expert" is a true expert and not a doctor playing politician.

And I want my doctor free to prescribe medicines for me that he believes will help me, not be constrained by a political hack in Washington.