Legal Abortion Means Lower Crime Rates

[georgephillip]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

I have read this theory, and even if it IS true, does that make it ethical?

As a hypothetical, we have the movie and short story, Minority Report. Is that sort of thing ethical, even if it is efficacious?

Or even the early 20th century's knowledge of genetics, and the idea of eugenics in human societies. Look at what it lead to, the holocaust and planned parenthood.

While we can now argue about the benefits that Planned Parenthood today may offer to women, when it was founded, there really can't be a lot of debate about what it's true purpose was.

Was that ethical? Was that moral?


So that is the warning we have today, to retain our humanity.

While we can now argue about the benefits that Planned Parenthood today may offer to women, when it was founded, there really can't be a lot of debate about what it's true purpose was.

Was that ethical? Was that moral?

If it's true purpose was poverty reduction, Planned Parenthood seems more ethical to me than many of the social programs of a century ago.


"The origins of Planned Parenthood date to October 16, 1916, when Margaret Sanger, her sister Ethel Byrne, and Fania Mindell opened the first birth control clinic in the U.S. in the Brownsville section of the New York borough of Brooklyn.[15]

"They distributed birth control, birth control advice, and birth control information.

"All three women were arrested[16][17][18] and jailed for violating provisions of the Comstock Act, accused of distributing obscene materials at the clinic.

"The so-called Brownsville trials brought national attention and support to their cause.

"Sanger and her co-defendants were convicted on misdemeanor charges, which they appealed through two subsequent appeals courts.

"While the convictions were not overturned,[19] the judge who issued the final ruling also modified the law to permit physician-prescribed birth control.

"The women's campaign led to major changes in the laws governing birth control and sex education in the United States.[20]"

Democrats think dismembering black babies will reduce crime Wow

Republicans know better.

Wait until the children are ambulatory.

 

[georgephillip]

How about abortion for Blacks & Hispanics, and not Whites.

Not sure.
Does the world need more white people?

Global Population by Race & The Future of Our World

 

[August West]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

So unemployment Spurs the economy and now killing baby's lowers crime?

Hilarious..

How about technology, 3 strike rules, cops getting smarter?


.

So unemployment Spurs the economy and now killing baby's lowers crime?

Hilarious..

How about technology, 3 strike rules, cops getting smarter?

How about reducing poverty to reduce crime rates?

Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia

"Sanger worked with African American leaders and professionals who saw a need for birth control in their communities. In 1929, James H. Hubert, a black social worker and the leader of New York's Urban League, asked Sanger to open a clinic in Harlem.[74]

"Sanger secured funding from the Julius Rosenwald Fund and opened the clinic, staffed with black doctors, in 1930. The clinic was directed by a 15-member advisory board consisting of black doctors, nurses, clergy, journalists, and social workers.

"The clinic was publicized in the African-American press as well as in black churches, and it received the approval of W. E. B. Du Bois, the co-founder of the NAACP and the editor of its magazine, The Crisis.[75][76][77][78]

"Sanger did not tolerate bigotry among her staff, nor would she tolerate any refusal to work within interracial projects.[79]

"Sanger's work with minorities earned praise from Martin Luther King, Jr., in his 1966 acceptance speech for the Margaret Sanger award.["

That would require jobs, to bad the big cities taxed them away.


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Technology took the jobs away. We still have a steel mill in my town but instead of 4,000 working there it`s now 700 producing the same tonnage. Now you know something. Not much but you need to start somewhere.

 

[georgephillip]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

So unemployment Spurs the economy and now killing baby's lowers crime?

Hilarious..

How about technology, 3 strike rules, cops getting smarter?


.

So unemployment Spurs the economy and now killing baby's lowers crime?

Hilarious..

How about technology, 3 strike rules, cops getting smarter?

How about reducing poverty to reduce crime rates?

Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia

"Sanger worked with African American leaders and professionals who saw a need for birth control in their communities. In 1929, James H. Hubert, a black social worker and the leader of New York's Urban League, asked Sanger to open a clinic in Harlem.[74]

"Sanger secured funding from the Julius Rosenwald Fund and opened the clinic, staffed with black doctors, in 1930. The clinic was directed by a 15-member advisory board consisting of black doctors, nurses, clergy, journalists, and social workers.

"The clinic was publicized in the African-American press as well as in black churches, and it received the approval of W. E. B. Du Bois, the co-founder of the NAACP and the editor of its magazine, The Crisis.[75][76][77][78]

"Sanger did not tolerate bigotry among her staff, nor would she tolerate any refusal to work within interracial projects.[79]

"Sanger's work with minorities earned praise from Martin Luther King, Jr., in his 1966 acceptance speech for the Margaret Sanger award.["

That would require jobs, to bad the big cities taxed them away.


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That would require jobs, to bad the big cities taxed them away

Rich parasites shipped millions of middle class jobs to China thereby destroying the tax base of major cities.

"An analysis by the Solutions Project found that a transition to 100 percent renewables would create 4 million long-term jobs and millions more short-term jobs—more, in total, than would be lost. Already, clean ener-gy jobs outnumber fossil fuel jobs 3 to 1. But to compensate workers who lose jobs in fossil fuel-related industries and to aid fossil-fuel-dependent communities, new labor policies will be needed."

Making the Green New Deal Work for Workers

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

So you agree with Margaret Sanger about ridding the world of the human weeds?

So you agree with Margaret Sanger about ridding the world of the human weeds?

I agree with Sanger about using contraception as an alternative to abortion.

Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia

"Sanger felt that in order for women to have a more equal footing in society and to lead healthier lives, they needed to be able to determine when to bear children.

"She also wanted to prevent so-called back-alley abortions,[8] which were common at the time because abortions were illegal in the United States.[9]

"She believed that while abortion was sometimes justified it should generally be avoided, and she considered contraception the only practical way to avoid them.[10]"

You need sources other than wikipedia

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Yep, just kill 'em in the womb, crime drops. Makes perfect sense.

 

[2aguy]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

The opposite findings....

Abortion and Crime: Unwanted Children and Out-of-Wedlock Births by John R. Lott, John E Whitley :: SSRN

Abstract
Abortion may prevent the birth of "unwanted" children, who would have relatively small investments in human capital and a higher probability of crime. On the other hand, some research suggests that legalizing abortion increases out-of-wedlock births and single parent families, which implies the opposite impact on investments in human capital and thus crime. The question is: what is the net impact? We find evidence that legalizing abortion increased murder rates by around about 0.5 to 7 percent. Previous estimates are shown to suffer from not directly linking the cohorts who are committing crime with whether they had been born before or after abortion was legal.

 

[2aguy]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

It is so interesting that research by left wingers always advocate murdering the poor....and the unwanted.....

 

[theHawk]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

So what you’re saying is....reducing the black population reduces crime...,

Gotcha.

 

[2aguy]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

So what you’re saying is....reducing the black population reduces crime...,

Gotcha.

Interesting that the left wing solution to many problems is killing the poor, the unwanted.......and people of color.......yet they are the compassionate ones....?

 

[georgephillip]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

So what you’re saying is....reducing the black population reduces crime...,

Gotcha.

So what you’re saying is....reducing the black population reduces crime...,

Gotcha.

Reducing the number of poor unwanted children likely reduces the number of potential criminals 18 to 24 years later. Since black families have been denied the same opportunities to acquire wealth as white families, it seems logical more young black citizens would resort to crime in order to survive.

The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Freakonomics pointed this out several years ago.
As the first legal abortion generation hit the 18-24 y.o. high crime age, the crime rate dropped.
Makes perfect sense because it jibes with the incidence of fatherless boys.
It keeps coming back to kids being raised by both parents.

Black males are far more likely to be incarcerated for the identical crime as white-skinned Americans which helps explain the absence of black fathers in the family home.

"PTSS posits that centuries of slavery in the United States, followed by systemic and structural racism and oppression, including lynching, Jim Crow laws, and unwarranted mass incarceration, have resulted in multigenerational maladaptive behaviors, which originated as survival strategies.

"The syndrome continues because children whose parents suffer from PTSS are often indoctrinated into the same behaviors, long after the behaviors have lost their contextual effectiveness.

"DeGruy states that PTSS is not a disorder that can simply be treated and remedied clinically but rather also requires profound social change in individuals, as well as in institutions that continue to reify inequality and injustice toward the descendants of enslaved Africans."

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome - Wikipedia

Which does nothing to explain blacks being incarcerated for crimes not committed by whites.
The legacy is in welfare and post-1960’s socialist agendas for blacks. Nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow.

 

[georgephillip]

Rudy's always seemed like an opportunistic racist to me, not unlike Trump in that regard:

Mayoralty of Rudy Giuliani - Wikipedia

The only reason I even cited Giuliani was to illustrate the absurdity of a study that so easily attributed whether or not women were having abortions or not, to the main driving force behind a rise or drop in crime rates.

Keep in mind that the crime rate declines during the 1990s also coincided with Pres. Clinton's midnight basketball policies. so there's that as well. Will we see a similar study on midnight basketball's effects on crime rates?

So what is your point to all the copy and pasting from that Wiki? Was it to admonish Giuliani for not tossing the entire New York Police Department under the bus, for a couple of bad cops?

The only reason I even cited Giuliani was to illustrate the absurdity of a study that so easily attributed whether or not women were having abortions or not, to the main driving force behind a rise or drop in crime rates.

I didn't mean to imply the study was uncontroversial as I made clear in my OP:

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"In a paper published in 2001, the economists John Donahue and Steven Levitt credited the legalisation of abortion across America with much of the subsequent reduction in crime in the country.

"They argued that violent crime in states where abortion had been banned before 1973 was 15-25% rarer in 1997 than it would have been had abortion remained illegal. The study was politically explosive, and widely criticised.

"Many sceptical scholars sought to poke holes in its methods, including one group who discovered an “inadvertent but serious computer programming error” (see article) underlying its findings."

 

[georgephillip]

ROE never even had an abortion that's how much you stupid fks even know or realize about her case....
YOU STUPID ASSES NEVER LEARN FROM TRUTH JUST YOUR OWN MADE UP CNN BS GAWD DAM LIES

McCorvey never wanted an abortion — she was seeking a divorce from her husband — but young, pro-abortion feminist attorney Sarah Weddington used McCorvey’s case as a means of attempting to overturn Texas’ law making most abortions illegal. Weddington took the case all the way to the Supreme Court, which invalidated every pro-life state law in the nation protecting unborn children and the rest is history.

Norma McCorvey (Jane Roe of Roe v. Wade) passed away today. She actually never had an abortion, and eventually became a pro-life advocate. We're grateful for her courage and her passion to defend life.

“I think it’s safe to say that the entire abortion industry is based on a lie…. I am dedicated to spending the rest of my life undoing the law that bears my name,” McCorvey says.

Norma, McCorvey, Jane Roe of Roe v. Wade, Passes Away: She Never had an Abortion and Became Pro-Life | LifeNews.com

Norma McCorvey - Wikipedia

"Norma Leah Nelson McCorvey (September 22, 1947 – February 18, 2017), better known by the legal pseudonym 'Jane Roe', was the plaintiff in the landmark American lawsuit Roe v. Wade in 1973.[2] The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that individual state laws banning abortionare unconstitutional.

"Later, McCorvey's views on abortion changed substantially; she became a Roman Catholic activist in the pro-lifemovement.[3] McCorvey stated that her involvement in Roe was 'the biggest mistake of [her] life.'[4]"

What's your point?

 

[georgephillip]

Freakonomics pointed this out several years ago.
As the first legal abortion generation hit the 18-24 y.o. high crime age, the crime rate dropped.
Makes perfect sense because it jibes with the incidence of fatherless boys.
It keeps coming back to kids being raised by both parents.

Black males are far more likely to be incarcerated for the identical crime as white-skinned Americans which helps explain the absence of black fathers in the family home.

"PTSS posits that centuries of slavery in the United States, followed by systemic and structural racism and oppression, including lynching, Jim Crow laws, and unwarranted mass incarceration, have resulted in multigenerational maladaptive behaviors, which originated as survival strategies.

"The syndrome continues because children whose parents suffer from PTSS are often indoctrinated into the same behaviors, long after the behaviors have lost their contextual effectiveness.

"DeGruy states that PTSS is not a disorder that can simply be treated and remedied clinically but rather also requires profound social change in individuals, as well as in institutions that continue to reify inequality and injustice toward the descendants of enslaved Africans."

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome - Wikipedia

Which does nothing to explain blacks being incarcerated for crimes not committed by whites.
The legacy is in welfare and post-1960’s socialist agendas for blacks. Nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow.

Which does nothing to explain blacks being incarcerated for crimes not committed by whites.
The legacy is in welfare and post-1960’s socialist agendas for blacks. Nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow.

That's only true if Redlining and its effects on investment had nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow:

The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

"One of the most heinous of these (racist) policies was introduced by the creation of the Federal Housing Administration in 1934, and lasted until 1968. Otherwise celebrated for making homeownership accessible to white people by guaranteeing their loans, the FHA explicitly refused to back loans to black people or even other people who lived near black people.

"As TNC puts it, 'Redlining destroyed the possibility of investment wherever black people lived.'"

 

[georgephillip]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

So you agree with Margaret Sanger about ridding the world of the human weeds?

So you agree with Margaret Sanger about ridding the world of the human weeds?

I agree with Sanger about using contraception as an alternative to abortion.

Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia

"Sanger felt that in order for women to have a more equal footing in society and to lead healthier lives, they needed to be able to determine when to bear children.

"She also wanted to prevent so-called back-alley abortions,[8] which were common at the time because abortions were illegal in the United States.[9]

"She believed that while abortion was sometimes justified it should generally be avoided, and she considered contraception the only practical way to avoid them.[10]"

You need sources other than wikipedia

You need sources other than wikipedia

Margaret Sanger - Wikiquote

"Birth control is not contraception indiscriminately and thoughtlessly practiced. It means the release and cultivation of the better racial elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extirpation of defective stocks— those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization.

• "Apostle of Birth Control Sees Cause Gaining Here", The New York Times, 1923-04-08, p. XII."

 

[georgephillip]

What if it's true...

Greater access to abortion may have reduced America’s crime rate

"May 24, 2019

"Crime rates in the U.S. have fallen by about half since the early 1990s.

"A new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that legalized abortion following the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 accounts for 45% of the decline in crime rates over the past three decades.

"The paper’s authors, Stanford University economist John Donohue and University of Chicago economist Steve Levitt, take new data and run nearly the same model they used in their influential — and controversial — 2001 analysis published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics, where they first suggested an association between abortion and crime."

New research linking abortion and crime reduction resurfaces old debate

Is it reasonable to hypothesize fewer children born into an environment that puts them at a higher risk of committing crime will constitute a net gain for society?

It would seem logical to believe unwanted children or those whose parents are unable to support them are likelier to become criminals.

Critics of the theory argue the correlations between births and crime don't account for confounding factors like reduced drug use, demographic changes and population densities.

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

The opposite findings....

Abortion and Crime: Unwanted Children and Out-of-Wedlock Births by John R. Lott, John E Whitley :: SSRN

Abstract
Abortion may prevent the birth of "unwanted" children, who would have relatively small investments in human capital and a higher probability of crime. On the other hand, some research suggests that legalizing abortion increases out-of-wedlock births and single parent families, which implies the opposite impact on investments in human capital and thus crime. The question is: what is the net impact? We find evidence that legalizing abortion increased murder rates by around about 0.5 to 7 percent. Previous estimates are shown to suffer from not directly linking the cohorts who are committing crime with whether they had been born before or after abortion was legal.

The opposite findings....

Abortion and Crime: Unwanted Children and Out-of-Wedlock Births by John R. Lott, John E Whitley :: SSRN

Legalized abortion and crime effect - Wikipedia

"Critics have argued that Donohue and Levitt's methodologies are flawed and that no statistically significant relationship between abortion and later crime rates can be proven.

"Criticisms include the assumption in the Donohue-Levitt study that abortion rates increased substantially since 1973 Supreme Court case Roe v. Wade eliminated many restrictions in the United States; critics use census data to show that the changes in the overall abortion rate could not account for the decrease in crime claimed by the study's methodology (legal abortions had been permitted under limited circumstances in many states prior).

"Other critics state that the correlations between births and crime found by Donohue–Levitt do not adequately account for confounding factors such as reduced drug use, changes in demographics and population densities, or other contemporary cultural changes."

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Freakonomics pointed this out several years ago.
As the first legal abortion generation hit the 18-24 y.o. high crime age, the crime rate dropped.
Makes perfect sense because it jibes with the incidence of fatherless boys.
It keeps coming back to kids being raised by both parents.

Black males are far more likely to be incarcerated for the identical crime as white-skinned Americans which helps explain the absence of black fathers in the family home.

"PTSS posits that centuries of slavery in the United States, followed by systemic and structural racism and oppression, including lynching, Jim Crow laws, and unwarranted mass incarceration, have resulted in multigenerational maladaptive behaviors, which originated as survival strategies.

"The syndrome continues because children whose parents suffer from PTSS are often indoctrinated into the same behaviors, long after the behaviors have lost their contextual effectiveness.

"DeGruy states that PTSS is not a disorder that can simply be treated and remedied clinically but rather also requires profound social change in individuals, as well as in institutions that continue to reify inequality and injustice toward the descendants of enslaved Africans."

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome - Wikipedia

Which does nothing to explain blacks being incarcerated for crimes not committed by whites.
The legacy is in welfare and post-1960’s socialist agendas for blacks. Nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow.

Which does nothing to explain blacks being incarcerated for crimes not committed by whites.
The legacy is in welfare and post-1960’s socialist agendas for blacks. Nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow.

That's only true if Redlining and its effects on investment had nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow:

The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

"One of the most heinous of these (racist) policies was introduced by the creation of the Federal Housing Administration in 1934, and lasted until 1968. Otherwise celebrated for making homeownership accessible to white people by guaranteeing their loans, the FHA explicitly refused to back loans to black people or even other people who lived near black people.

"As TNC puts it, 'Redlining destroyed the possibility of investment wherever black people lived.'"

No. This shit goes on in middle class black neighborhoods, too. It’s not money, it’s not slavery, it’s not jim crow. It’s post-1960’s socialist bullshit and fatherlessness.

 

[georgephillip]

Freakonomics pointed this out several years ago.
As the first legal abortion generation hit the 18-24 y.o. high crime age, the crime rate dropped.
Makes perfect sense because it jibes with the incidence of fatherless boys.
It keeps coming back to kids being raised by both parents.

Black males are far more likely to be incarcerated for the identical crime as white-skinned Americans which helps explain the absence of black fathers in the family home.

"PTSS posits that centuries of slavery in the United States, followed by systemic and structural racism and oppression, including lynching, Jim Crow laws, and unwarranted mass incarceration, have resulted in multigenerational maladaptive behaviors, which originated as survival strategies.

"The syndrome continues because children whose parents suffer from PTSS are often indoctrinated into the same behaviors, long after the behaviors have lost their contextual effectiveness.

"DeGruy states that PTSS is not a disorder that can simply be treated and remedied clinically but rather also requires profound social change in individuals, as well as in institutions that continue to reify inequality and injustice toward the descendants of enslaved Africans."

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome - Wikipedia

Which does nothing to explain blacks being incarcerated for crimes not committed by whites.
The legacy is in welfare and post-1960’s socialist agendas for blacks. Nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow.

Which does nothing to explain blacks being incarcerated for crimes not committed by whites.
The legacy is in welfare and post-1960’s socialist agendas for blacks. Nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow.

That's only true if Redlining and its effects on investment had nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow:

The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

"One of the most heinous of these (racist) policies was introduced by the creation of the Federal Housing Administration in 1934, and lasted until 1968. Otherwise celebrated for making homeownership accessible to white people by guaranteeing their loans, the FHA explicitly refused to back loans to black people or even other people who lived near black people.

"As TNC puts it, 'Redlining destroyed the possibility of investment wherever black people lived.'"

No. This shit goes on in middle class black neighborhoods, too. It’s not money, it’s not slavery, it’s not jim crow. It’s post-1960’s socialist bullshit and fatherlessness.

No. This shit goes on in middle class black neighborhoods, too. It’s not money, it’s not slavery, it’s not jim crow. It’s post-1960’s socialist bullshit and fatherlessness.

Black families were denied the chief wealth acquiring tool that white families used over generations to amass their net worth, i.e., federally insured mortgages. The "post-1960s socialist bullshit and fatherlessness" are symptoms of that official discrimination.

1934–1968: FHA Mortgage Insurance Requirements Utilize Redlining

"Through an overt practice of denying mortgages based upon race and ethnicity, the FHA played a significant role in the legalization and institutionalization of racism and segregation.

"The Underwriting Manual established the FHA’s mortgage lending requirements, ultimately institutionalizing racism and segregation within the housing industry. The following presents information about the national context of redlining and is not specific to Greater Boston."

 

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Freakonomics pointed this out several years ago.
As the first legal abortion generation hit the 18-24 y.o. high crime age, the crime rate dropped.
Makes perfect sense because it jibes with the incidence of fatherless boys.
It keeps coming back to kids being raised by both parents.

Black males are far more likely to be incarcerated for the identical crime as white-skinned Americans which helps explain the absence of black fathers in the family home.

"PTSS posits that centuries of slavery in the United States, followed by systemic and structural racism and oppression, including lynching, Jim Crow laws, and unwarranted mass incarceration, have resulted in multigenerational maladaptive behaviors, which originated as survival strategies.

"The syndrome continues because children whose parents suffer from PTSS are often indoctrinated into the same behaviors, long after the behaviors have lost their contextual effectiveness.

"DeGruy states that PTSS is not a disorder that can simply be treated and remedied clinically but rather also requires profound social change in individuals, as well as in institutions that continue to reify inequality and injustice toward the descendants of enslaved Africans."

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome - Wikipedia

Which does nothing to explain blacks being incarcerated for crimes not committed by whites.
The legacy is in welfare and post-1960’s socialist agendas for blacks. Nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow.

Which does nothing to explain blacks being incarcerated for crimes not committed by whites.
The legacy is in welfare and post-1960’s socialist agendas for blacks. Nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow.

That's only true if Redlining and its effects on investment had nothing to do with slavery or Jim Crow:

The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

"One of the most heinous of these (racist) policies was introduced by the creation of the Federal Housing Administration in 1934, and lasted until 1968. Otherwise celebrated for making homeownership accessible to white people by guaranteeing their loans, the FHA explicitly refused to back loans to black people or even other people who lived near black people.

"As TNC puts it, 'Redlining destroyed the possibility of investment wherever black people lived.'"

No. This shit goes on in middle class black neighborhoods, too. It’s not money, it’s not slavery, it’s not jim crow. It’s post-1960’s socialist bullshit and fatherlessness.

No. This shit goes on in middle class black neighborhoods, too. It’s not money, it’s not slavery, it’s not jim crow. It’s post-1960’s socialist bullshit and fatherlessness.

Black families were denied the chief wealth acquiring tool that white families used over generations to amass their net worth, i.e., federally insured mortgages. The "post-1960s socialist bullshit and fatherlessness" are symptoms of that official discrimination.

1934–1968: FHA Mortgage Insurance Requirements Utilize Redlining

"Through an overt practice of denying mortgages based upon race and ethnicity, the FHA played a significant role in the legalization and institutionalization of racism and segregation.

"The Underwriting Manual established the FHA’s mortgage lending requirements, ultimately institutionalizing racism and segregation within the housing industry. The following presents information about the national context of redlining and is not specific to Greater Boston."

Bullshit. More excuse-making.
Lots of white families had no such advantage.
Your complaint should be with wealthy vs not-wealthy, not black vs white.
As for segregation, it is alive and well and instigated by black racist groups and supported on all levels by the DNC.