Leftists: Please explain to me how democracy is in jeopardy

[whutTHEYsay]

It had no impact on the election.

NFBW: Of course it had no impact on the election. The January 6 fake electors to Pence coup attempt was about two months after the election was declared won by Biden. When Pence refused to join the fake electors coup, the craziest of the crazy mob in DC, like Ashley Babbitt decided to stop Biden’s inauguration through violence including hanging Mike Pence for betraying Trump’s plot to stay in power.

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[Ray From Cleveland]

NFBW: Of course it had no impact on the election. The January 6 fake electors to Pence coup attempt was about two months after the election was declared won by Biden. When Pence refused to join the fake electors coup, the craziest of the crazy mob in DC, like Ashley Babbitt decided to stop Biden’s inauguration through violence including hanging Mike Pence for betraying Trump’s plot to stay in power.

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Pence was no more closer to being hung than you or I sitting at our computers. And what violence was Babbit involved in? She broke through a window and entered the Capital. This five foot nothing woman never hit anybody, pushed anybody, or even spit on anybody. She was unarmed and was shot to death by a police officer with a history of carelessly mishandling his firearm while on duty.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

And how do you figure that could happen? Even if they had that kind of power (which they don't) nobody would even think of doing it.

NFBW: Trump actually tried to do it. Pence refused to recognize the fake Trump electors from Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada and New Mexico

The push for Pence to overthrow the results was part of a plan laid out by pro-Trump attorney John Eastman in an infamous memo, which advocated for Trump allies to declare themselves fake electors in swing states carried by Biden, and Pence to use those fake electors as a pretext for throwing out the real ones and swinging the election to Trump — or at least, to a vote of the House, where Republicans controlled enough state delegations to choose Trump in such a vote.​

Trump warned Pence before Jan. 6: 'People are gonna think you're stupid'

On Wednesday, POLITICO reported that a new book from former Vice President Mike Pence reveals how former President Donald Trump tried to force him to agree to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election."Former President Donald Trump repeatedly told former Vice President Mike Pence...

www.rawstory.com

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Trump is a threat to democracy and Trump is the head of the Republican authoritarian and lawless populist majority of the Republican Party base. A vote for any Republican running for anything is support for lawless authoritarianism taking hold in America and that is a definite threat to democracy..

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[whutTHEYsay]

Pence was no more closer to being hung than you or I sitting at our computers

You don’t know that.

You need to see Trump’s intent.

We know Trump thought he had hundreds of thousands of ‘stop the steal’ supporters in DC on Jan6 for his plot to stop the peaceful transfer of power to the rightful winner.

"It was a massive rally with hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people. I think it was the largest crowd I've ever spoken to before," Trump210108-Nigel Farage on GB News​

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After the violence had already began, Trump tweeted to enrage the mob against Pence. . ,

Timestamped at 2:02 pm, the previously unreleased security footage from inside the US Capitol during the 6 January insurrection showed Mr Pence and his family being rushed out of the chamber as rioters got within 100 feet of him.​

Trump tweeted Pence lacked ‘courage’ as VP was running for his life from Capitol rioters​

Just two minutes earlier, at 2:24 pm Mr Trump tweeted from his now-suspended account, saying: "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!"​

NFBW: With a 2000 strong MAGA moron attack force - some were able to get within 100 feet of Mike’s location.

If 10,000 actually stormed the Capitol of the several hundred thousand Trump thought was there it’s quite possible Mike Pence does not get away unscathed.

Trump had no idea how many of his MAGA morons were entering the Capitol to hang Mike Pence for betraying the leader of their cult.

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[whutTHEYsay]

And what violence was Babbit involved in? She broke through a window and entered the Capital.

Ashley Babbitt was engaged in active physical political violence on Trump’s behalf for what Mitt Romney called madness.


MItt Romney: “This is madness. We have a process, recounts are appropriate, going to the court is appropriate, and pursuing every legal avenue is appropriate, but trying to get electors not to do what the people voted to do is madness.”

MADNESS IN A PRESIDENT WHO REFUSES TO COMPLY WITH THE WILL OF THE VOTERS IS A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY.

 

[scruffy]

NFBW: You are duped by Trump, Q-Anon, The Kracken Lawyer and Pillow Guy BIG LIES. There is no evidence that the 2020 election was manipulated by nefarious people in any possible way. You are a threat to democracy voting Republican for that kind of shit. END2211090830 Seattle

Will you STFU and stop with the stupid, please?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ashley Babbitt was engaged in active physical political violence on Trump’s behalf for what Mitt Romney called madness.


MItt Romney: “This is madness. We have a process, recounts are appropriate, going to the court is appropriate, and pursuing every legal avenue is appropriate, but trying to get electors not to do what the people voted to do is madness.”

MADNESS IN A PRESIDENT WHO REFUSES TO COMPLY WITH THE WILL OF THE VOTERS IS A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY.

I see we stumbled across another word you don't know the definition of--violence.

Nobody cares what Romney thinks because nobody on the right cares about Romney. He's the epitome of RINO and is not liked very much in our party. So to try and use him as what "Republicans" think is a failure on your part. He's no Republican.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You don’t know that.

You need to see Trump’s intent.

We know Trump thought he had hundreds of thousands of ‘stop the steal’ supporters in DC on Jan6 for his plot to stop the peaceful transfer of power to the rightful winner.

"It was a massive rally with hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people. I think it was the largest crowd I've ever spoken to before," Trump210108-Nigel Farage on GB News​

​

After the violence had already began, Trump tweeted to enrage the mob against Pence. . ,

Timestamped at 2:02 pm, the previously unreleased security footage from inside the US Capitol during the 6 January insurrection showed Mr Pence and his family being rushed out of the chamber as rioters got within 100 feet of him.​

Trump tweeted Pence lacked ‘courage’ as VP was running for his life from Capitol rioters​

Just two minutes earlier, at 2:24 pm Mr Trump tweeted from his now-suspended account, saying: "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!"​

NFBW: With a 2000 strong MAGA moron attack force - some were able to get within 100 feet of Mike’s location.

If 10,000 actually stormed the Capitol of the several hundred thousand Trump thought was there it’s quite possible Mike Pence does not get away unscathed.

Trump had no idea how many of his MAGA morons were entering the Capitol to hang Mike Pence for betraying the leader of their cult.

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So that's your evidence, what Trump Tweeted?

The VP gets just as much security as the President. The SS wouldn't allow people 100 feet near him without shooting. Becaise ONE or TWO people placed a noose far outside the Capital building does not mean that all protestors or rioters for that matter were prepared to commit murder. Only a complete idiot would believe anything like that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

NFBW: Trump actually tried to do it. Pence refused to recognize the fake Trump electors from Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada and New Mexico

The push for Pence to overthrow the results was part of a plan laid out by pro-Trump attorney John Eastman in an infamous memo, which advocated for Trump allies to declare themselves fake electors in swing states carried by Biden, and Pence to use those fake electors as a pretext for throwing out the real ones and swinging the election to Trump — or at least, to a vote of the House, where Republicans controlled enough state delegations to choose Trump in such a vote.​

Trump warned Pence before Jan. 6: 'People are gonna think you're stupid'

On Wednesday, POLITICO reported that a new book from former Vice President Mike Pence reveals how former President Donald Trump tried to force him to agree to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election."Former President Donald Trump repeatedly told former Vice President Mike Pence...

www.rawstory.com

​

Trump is a threat to democracy and Trump is the head of the Republican authoritarian and lawless populist majority of the Republican Party base. A vote for any Republican running for anything is support for lawless authoritarianism taking hold in America and that is a definite threat to democracy..

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And none of that happened. So much for your bogus overthrow democracy theory. If the strongest military complex in the world can be overthrown by a couple of yahoos dressed up like fake wrestlers, then the Canadian army could take over this country if they wanted to. Why is it you people on the left have zero common sense?

 

[Winco]

And what violence was Babbit involved in? She broke through a window and entered the Capital.

#1.... Capitol. Not Capital. Sorry Ray, but ignorance can't be continually ignored.
#2... I'll explain, but you refuse to listen....... The "Big Lie" is causing so much division in OUR Country, that 100's of MAGA (R) wanna be Congress Members and State Reps BET their election on it, and MOST lost.

WFT is wrong with you?
You laughed at Russia, Russia, Russia, but pound the FAKE 'BIG LIE' of stolen election. 62 court cases, ALL Loses.

That ^^^^ is what is wrong Ray.

It's time to admit that trump was a mistake. TIME to Move On from POS Lying Con Man trump.

 

[beagle9]

Ashley Babbitt was engaged in active physical political violence on Trump’s behalf for what Mitt Romney called madness.


MItt Romney: “This is madness. We have a process, recounts are appropriate, going to the court is appropriate, and pursuing every legal avenue is appropriate, but trying to get electors not to do what the people voted to do is madness.”

MADNESS IN A PRESIDENT WHO REFUSES TO COMPLY WITH THE WILL OF THE VOTERS IS A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY.

Protest are not a threat to our Democracy, and they are actually encouraged by our history when thing's aren't right. You all condemn protest conveniently when things aren't going your way, but encourage them, even supported violence in the 1st degree when it was thought to benefit a Democrat or leftist.

 

[beagle9]

#1.... Capitol. Not Capital. Sorry Ray, but ignorance can't be continually ignored.
#2... I'll explain, but you refuse to listen....... The "Big Lie" is causing so much division in OUR Country, that 100's of MAGA (R) wanna be Congress Members and State Reps BET their election on it, and MOST lost.

WFT is wrong with you?
You laughed at Russia, Russia, Russia, but pound the FAKE 'BIG LIE' of stolen election. 62 court cases, ALL Loses.

That ^^^^ is what is wrong Ray.

It's time to admit that trump was a mistake. TIME to Move On from POS Lying Con Man trump.

No, what's causing the biggest division in this country is Democrat fascism and their abuse of power in hopes to coerce favorable outcomes by way of their abuse of power. Any fool knows this now, and the ignorance of anyone who doesn't is shocking..

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

#1.... Capitol. Not Capital. Sorry Ray, but ignorance can't be continually ignored.
#2... I'll explain, but you refuse to listen....... The "Big Lie" is causing so much division in OUR Country, that 100's of MAGA (R) wanna be Congress Members and State Reps BET their election on it, and MOST lost.

WFT is wrong with you?
You laughed at Russia, Russia, Russia, but pound the FAKE 'BIG LIE' of stolen election. 62 court cases, ALL Loses.

That ^^^^ is what is wrong Ray.

It's time to admit that trump was a mistake. TIME to Move On from POS Lying Con Man trump.

Ah, like all the other Communists in Congress, you too are scared to death of this man I see.

The division in our country is by the Communists, not Trump and not the Republicans. They went from Democrat to liberal, from liberal to progressive, from progressive to Socialist Democrat, whatever the hell that is. IMO, the Communists took over the party about 20 years ago and since then, has morphed into the anti-white party, but we don't have enough smart whites to see it and bring them to defeat.

There is no middle ground between Communism and constitutionalism. That's why there is a divide. You'd have more luck trying to unite the Palestinians and the Jews at this point.

There is only one solution to this ever growing problem, and I've been talking about it the last two years or so: we need to divide this country into two countries instead. It's the only way to save half of it, and yesterday is clear evidence of that. The sooner we start, the better.

 

[Winco]

Democrat fascism

WTF is this ^^^^^

Since you are so smart....... Define, in your own words, Democrat fascism.

 

[Winco]

Ah, like all the other Communists in Congress, you too are scared to death of this man I see.

The division in our country is by the Communists,

Again, Define the 'communists' in your words ray.
Tell us and describe the behavior that defines a communist. In YOUR WORDS.

 

[beagle9]

Ah, like all the other Communists in Congress, you too are scared to death of this man I see.

The division in our country is by the Communists, not Trump and not the Republicans. They went from Democrat to liberal, from liberal to progressive, from progressive to Socialist Democrat, whatever the hell that is. IMO, the Communists took over the party about 20 years ago and since then, has morphed into the anti-white party, but we don't have enough smart whites to see it and bring them to defeat.

There is no middle ground between Communism and constitutionalism. That's why there is a divide. You'd have more luck trying to unite the Palestinians and the Jews at this point.

There is only one solution to this ever growing problem, and I've been talking about it the last two years or so: we need to divide this country into two countries instead. It's the only way to save half of it, and yesterday is clear evidence of that. The sooner we start, the better.

This is what happened to the youth under the Democrat's.

 

[beagle9]

WTF is this ^^^^^

Since you are so smart....... Define, in your own words, Democrat fascism.

Democrat fascism is the way that Democrat's push their ideals and culture by way of government and/or by more nefarious means on the people without their agreement of such ideals or cultural swings being forcefully pushed.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Again, Define the 'communists' in your words ray.
Tell us and describe the behavior that defines a communist. In YOUR WORDS.

Why use my words when you cam use their own? Go to the US Communist party website and read their agenda. You'll find very few differences between theirs and the Democrat party. Too much work? Just ask, and I'll post a link I have right here in my bookmarks.

 

[Winco]

Why use my words when you cam use their own? Go to the US Communist party website and read their agenda. You'll find very few differences between theirs and the Democrat party. Too much work? Just ask, and I'll post a link I have right here in my bookmarks.

Well Ray, you label me a communist, when I think of Communist, I think of 1972 Russia.

Is that how you define the (D) party Ray?

Please Share.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well Ray, you label me a communist, when I think of Communist, I think of 1972 Russia.

Is that how you define the (D) party Ray?

Please Share.

I told you how I define it, it's in their website. If you support Communists, how can you not be one yourself?

There are different levels of Communism just like there are different levels of Democracies, dictatorships and Republics. Just like there are different levels of liberalism, libertarianism and conservative.

You have a party right now that politicized our federal agencies. In essence making them an extension of the Democrat party. You have an AG that refused to enforce law against protestors of our Supreme Court justices which ultimately led to the assassination planning of one of them. A federal agency that won't take any action against a Presidents son. The same agency that falsified FISA applications with no penalty or charges to spy on a political opponent. The same agency that obtained warrants for a petty theft matter of the Presidents daughters diary. The same agency that went to an abortion protesters home to arrest him because he pushed a guy accosting his son and he fell over backwards a year earlier. They went there with five agents with assault rifles, nearly beat down his door, and arrested him in front of his wife and seven children for something people do at bars hundreds of times every weekend.

Russia Communism? Not yet, but certainly on the path there if we allow it to continue. Oh, and let's not forget about the 87,000 new IRS agents. What do you think the Communists plans for those people are?