Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

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Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

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The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

 

[SweetSue92]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

What if there was a special log in for approved parents and guardians to exclusively access only feeds of their children’s classrooms. Would you support it then?

No live feeds for all the reasons mentioned. You're still going to have special education students, grading issues, discipline issues going on all the time. Best way to handle all of this is to have the classroom taped and recorded, and the video can be recalled later by relevant parties.

The special ed laws alone would blow your minds. I TEACH special ed children and can hardly know some things. No way would parents be given license to have unfettered viewing access.

A palpable fear.

I wonder why.

Moral panics are really ugly. Ours isn't pretty either, and we're losing our faculties just like the Left lost theirs over Covid.

For instance, suggesting we tape little children and let everyone look in on it live.

You don't care about the little children; you just care about getting the loathsome teachers. I care about the kids, believe it or not.

Now, back off.

"... suggesting we tape little children..."


Really?

You're protecting the children???? Not yourself????


"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

I'm protesting the perfect amount to the suggestion that we live feed minor children and give out "access codes"

Wanna see how this goes off in reasonable circles? Bring this to your elders or Church Council for VBS. See how well they really, really love it. See what their liability is. Go on, and report back

 

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Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

You got a Vacation Bible School going PC? Hey, how about we live film all the kiddies and "give out codes" and anyone with the supposed codes can peep in and watch the kids.

Seems safe, right? Do you love that idea for your church kids?

Seems I hit a nerve.


What are 'church kids'?


Do you exclude kids from religious families from your classes???


Any teacher who fears being watched is a charlatan.

 

[SweetSue92]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

Your animus toward public school teachers has made you nonsensical, so go spit this bile somewhere else. I mean it, this makes no sense.

 

[SweetSue92]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

You got a Vacation Bible School going PC? Hey, how about we live film all the kiddies and "give out codes" and anyone with the supposed codes can peep in and watch the kids.

Seems safe, right? Do you love that idea for your church kids?

Seems I hit a nerve.


What are 'church kids'?


Do you exclude kids from religious families from your classes???


Any teacher who fears being watched is a charlatan.

Address my points or concede that you have lost.

It's not "my teaching being watched" that bothers me. If there is a camera in my room recording all day long and storing the footage, I don't fear being watched, do I?

But having that be a live feed where *whose* eyes are on for *what* purpose? While delicate things are going on, while especially with Special Ed students? Every district in existence would be sued by special ed parents, and they would be right to do so.

I'm sorry, but most of you are simply swimming in ignorance of student privacy laws. You have NO RIGHT to see other children in their day to day lives just because you have an ax to grind with teachers. If it's that bad, get your kids out.

 

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Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

What if there was a special log in for approved parents and guardians to exclusively access only feeds of their children’s classrooms. Would you support it then?

No live feeds for all the reasons mentioned. You're still going to have special education students, grading issues, discipline issues going on all the time. Best way to handle all of this is to have the classroom taped and recorded, and the video can be recalled later by relevant parties.

The special ed laws alone would blow your minds. I TEACH special ed children and can hardly know some things. No way would parents be given license to have unfettered viewing access.

A palpable fear.

I wonder why.

Moral panics are really ugly. Ours isn't pretty either, and we're losing our faculties just like the Left lost theirs over Covid.

For instance, suggesting we tape little children and let everyone look in on it live.

You don't care about the little children; you just care about getting the loathsome teachers. I care about the kids, believe it or not.

Now, back off.

"... suggesting we tape little children..."


Really?

You're protecting the children???? Not yourself????


"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

I'm protesting the perfect amount to the suggestion that we live feed minor children and give out "access codes"

Wanna see how this goes off in reasonable circles? Bring this to your elders or Church Council for VBS. See how well they really, really love it. See what they're liability is. Go on, and report back

Stop hiding behind 'the children,'


Parents want transparency, and this has come into focus due to the indoctrination via Critical Race Theory.


“Nation’s Largest Teachers Union to Push Critical Race Theory

The NEA has already adopted new provisions that support critical race theory, a controversial school of thought that emphasizes racism in American history and maintains that it is systemic in U.S. law and institutions.

According to the NEA measure, the organization has now agreed to lead and support campaigns that “result in increasing the implementation of culturally responsive education, critical race theory, and ethnic (Native people, Asian, Black, Latin(o/a/x), Middle Eastern, North African, and Pacific Islander) Studies curriculum in pre- K-12 and higher education.” Nation's Largest Teachers Union to Push Critical Race Theory - Headline USA

“America's largest teachers' union backs teaching critical race theory to children, says it will fight those who oppose move, and calls for October rally to commemorate George Floyd's birthday​

The National Educator's Association recently announced it backs the teaching of critical race theory in schools

The country's largest teacher's union approved a resolution to promote critical race theory and assemble a team to teach it to union members

It also wants to assemble a staff to take on those who challenge its plans to promote CRT

In addition to its plans, the NEA will launch a 'national day of action' on October 14 – George Floyd's birthday – to have a dialogue on systemic racism”

National Educator's Association approves of critical race theory

The National Educator's Association recently announced it backs the teaching of critical race theory in schools and approved a resolution to assemble a team to teach it to union members.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[PoliticalChic]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

Your animus toward public school teachers has made you nonsensical, so go spit this bile somewhere else. I mean it, this makes no sense.

"Your animus toward public school teachers"

Nay, nay....it is my love of America and liberty.

And I really don't care if that makes you uncomfortable.


Children need be protected from indoctrination.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

You got a Vacation Bible School going PC? Hey, how about we live film all the kiddies and "give out codes" and anyone with the supposed codes can peep in and watch the kids.

Seems safe, right? Do you love that idea for your church kids?

Seems I hit a nerve.


What are 'church kids'?


Do you exclude kids from religious families from your classes???


Any teacher who fears being watched is a charlatan.

Address my points or concede that you have lost.

It's not "my teaching being watched" that bothers me. If there is a camera in my room recording all day long and storing the footage, I don't fear being watched, do I?

But having that be a live feed where *whose* eyes are on for *what* purpose? While delicate things are going on, while especially with Special Ed students? Every district in existence would be sued by special ed parents, and they would be right to do so.

I'm sorry, but most of you are simply swimming in ignorance of student privacy laws. You have NO RIGHT to see other children in their day to day lives just because you have an ax to grind with teachers. If it's that bad, get your kids out.

You have no points.

The children and their parents are priorities.....not you.

 

[SweetSue92]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

Your animus toward public school teachers has made you nonsensical, so go spit this bile somewhere else. I mean it, this makes no sense.

"Your animus toward public school teachers"

Nay, nay....it is my love of America and liberty.

And I really don't care if that makes you uncomfortable.


Children need be protected from indoctrination.

I'm opposed to CRT in the classroom. It's an abomination. We are actually on the same side. Conservatives insisting that they must look in on other people's children all the time--and not seeing the *massive* downsides of this--makes us look shortsighted at best, and creepy at worst.

It's a really bad, stupid idea, in short, and we should drop it immediately. Security type cameras that record footage that can be accessed, yes. Live feeds, absolutely not.

We just can't go after stupid fixes for what is really a serious problem.

 

[SweetSue92]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

You got a Vacation Bible School going PC? Hey, how about we live film all the kiddies and "give out codes" and anyone with the supposed codes can peep in and watch the kids.

Seems safe, right? Do you love that idea for your church kids?

Seems I hit a nerve.


What are 'church kids'?


Do you exclude kids from religious families from your classes???


Any teacher who fears being watched is a charlatan.

Address my points or concede that you have lost.

It's not "my teaching being watched" that bothers me. If there is a camera in my room recording all day long and storing the footage, I don't fear being watched, do I?

But having that be a live feed where *whose* eyes are on for *what* purpose? While delicate things are going on, while especially with Special Ed students? Every district in existence would be sued by special ed parents, and they would be right to do so.

I'm sorry, but most of you are simply swimming in ignorance of student privacy laws. You have NO RIGHT to see other children in their day to day lives just because you have an ax to grind with teachers. If it's that bad, get your kids out.

You have no points.

The children and their parents are priorities.....not you.

Okay well then, good luck, and I hope you lose. I really do. And when really creepy parents get access to everyone else's kids, and then creepy stuff happens....

Everyone on USMB, especially conservatives, don't say the teachers didn't tell you so.

BUT HEY!!!

You got those teachers, all right. So go you.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

Who said anything about "watching live"? There you go again with your all-or-nothing "This is all about public livestreaming classes on Youtube!" crap.

Yes, police bodycams film anyone who comes within range of the police bodycam, including minor children, which you continue to talk about as though you think pointing a camera at a kid instantly gives him cancer or something.

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two children. I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

I don't know if you noticed this, hon, but parents had access to what was going on in the classroom during the whole Covid lockdown because of Zoom schooling, and I don't recall anyone crapping their drawers over "the privacy of the other children! OMG!" at that time, perhaps because the teachers were far too concerned with demanding pay for no work to worry about complete autonomy and secrecy.

You simply cannot get around the fact that I'm not trying to get around the fact that it might involve taping minor children, because I don't accept as a given that it's an unthinkable horror the way you pretend to. I swear, the way you keep parroting, "Taping minor children!" sounds like you think you're saying, "Boiling children and eating them!" Calm down.

Furthermore, I note with interest that you skipped right past the actual point of my post which you are purporting to answer - it's really amazing how many people around here "respond" to a post by completely ignoring what it says - to run right back to your all-or-nothing fallacy of "Either we're talking about full access to everything all the time, or you just can't do it at all!"

At least two conservative posters in this thread would not be satisfied with the police cam/security cam type videotaping; they want a full sound, full video camera with a live feed installed in every classroom. This is the history of this thread. I have already stated I'm fine with security type cameras that store footage. We already have those in hallways and buses. *shrug*

Oh, okay, so two people on an Internet message board means that's the ONLY possible option and that's the sum total of the public debate and the entire history of this thread. All the other people, including me, who are talking about finding ways to reasonably accommodate all concerns? Not part of the history of this thread, and all of their posts can be answered with references back to what those two people say rather than what the poster actually being responded to said.

If you can't communicate with individual people on the basis of their individual words, then I'm going to have to suggest that an Internet message board is really beyond your skill set.

In the meantime, you are welcome to ask permission to post to me again when you have something to say that relates to my viewpoint, not the one you've singlehandedly appointed as THE only viewpoint in existence.

 

[Mac-7]

So were you against the crime Bill that Trump passed?

Yes, but it wasnt the most issue on my agenda

 

[Cecilie1200]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

Your animus toward public school teachers has made you nonsensical, so go spit this bile somewhere else. I mean it, this makes no sense.

"Your animus toward public school teachers"

Nay, nay....it is my love of America and liberty.

And I really don't care if that makes you uncomfortable.


Children need be protected from indoctrination.

I'm opposed to CRT in the classroom. It's an abomination. We are actually on the same side. Conservatives insisting that they must look in on other people's children all the time--and not seeing the *massive* downsides of this--makes us look shortsighted at best, and creepy at worst.

It's a really bad, stupid idea, in short, and we should drop it immediately. Security type cameras that record footage that can be accessed, yes. Live feeds, absolutely not.

We just can't go after stupid fixes for what is really a serious problem.

You should get some new voices in your head, since the ones you're listening to while pretending to listen to us sound really stupid.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

Your animus toward public school teachers has made you nonsensical, so go spit this bile somewhere else. I mean it, this makes no sense.

"Your animus toward public school teachers"

Nay, nay....it is my love of America and liberty.

And I really don't care if that makes you uncomfortable.


Children need be protected from indoctrination.

I'm opposed to CRT in the classroom. It's an abomination. We are actually on the same side. Conservatives insisting that they must look in on other people's children all the time--and not seeing the *massive* downsides of this--makes us look shortsighted at best, and creepy at worst.

It's a really bad, stupid idea, in short, and we should drop it immediately. Security type cameras that record footage that can be accessed, yes. Live feeds, absolutely not.

We just can't go after stupid fixes for what is really a serious problem.

"I'm opposed to CRT in the classroom"


You have no say.


The NEA has already said it will impose it in every classroom.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

Are you kidding? Where else could she be this ignorant and sanctimonious all at once?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

Your animus toward public school teachers has made you nonsensical, so go spit this bile somewhere else. I mean it, this makes no sense.

"Your animus toward public school teachers..."


Do you know what those words mean?

If so, can you provide any quotes of mine to back that up?


Would you rather retract it?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

You got a Vacation Bible School going PC? Hey, how about we live film all the kiddies and "give out codes" and anyone with the supposed codes can peep in and watch the kids.

Seems safe, right? Do you love that idea for your church kids?

Seems I hit a nerve.


What are 'church kids'?


Do you exclude kids from religious families from your classes???


Any teacher who fears being watched is a charlatan.

Address my points or concede that you have lost.

It's not "my teaching being watched" that bothers me. If there is a camera in my room recording all day long and storing the footage, I don't fear being watched, do I?

But having that be a live feed where *whose* eyes are on for *what* purpose? While delicate things are going on, while especially with Special Ed students? Every district in existence would be sued by special ed parents, and they would be right to do so.

I'm sorry, but most of you are simply swimming in ignorance of student privacy laws. You have NO RIGHT to see other children in their day to day lives just because you have an ax to grind with teachers. If it's that bad, get your kids out.

That's pretty rich, coming from the broad who earlier admitted that she's responding to every poster here on the basis of two people who allegedly said the one thing she really wants to argue against.

On the basis of your own demands, you lost multiple pages ago when you insisted on addressing every point as if it was the straw man you wanted.

 

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Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

Are you kidding? Where else could she be this ignorant and sanctimonious all at once?

I'm not ready to go with "ignorant and sanctimonious "....


Perhaps shy, insecure, lacking self-esteem.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

You got a Vacation Bible School going PC? Hey, how about we live film all the kiddies and "give out codes" and anyone with the supposed codes can peep in and watch the kids.

Seems safe, right? Do you love that idea for your church kids?

Seems I hit a nerve.


What are 'church kids'?


Do you exclude kids from religious families from your classes???


Any teacher who fears being watched is a charlatan.

Address my points or concede that you have lost.

It's not "my teaching being watched" that bothers me. If there is a camera in my room recording all day long and storing the footage, I don't fear being watched, do I?

But having that be a live feed where *whose* eyes are on for *what* purpose? While delicate things are going on, while especially with Special Ed students? Every district in existence would be sued by special ed parents, and they would be right to do so.

I'm sorry, but most of you are simply swimming in ignorance of student privacy laws. You have NO RIGHT to see other children in their day to day lives just because you have an ax to grind with teachers. If it's that bad, get your kids out.

You have no points.

The children and their parents are priorities.....not you.

Okay well then, good luck, and I hope you lose. I really do. And when really creepy parents get access to everyone else's kids, and then creepy stuff happens....

Everyone on USMB, especially conservatives, don't say the teachers didn't tell you so.

BUT HEY!!!

You got those teachers, all right. So go you.

"...really creepy parents..."


This is not the first time you have shown disrespect for your employers.


You should think about that view, and the view of those trusting their most valuable asset to you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So you’re Ok with police officers having body cams but no cameras in classrooms? Typical Leftist hypocrisy

Yes absolutely... You're on the cameras in classrooms train too AZ?!

Wow, the breakdown of conservatives is amazing to watch

#1) I am not a conservative, I am just right of you because you're a deranged leftist.

#2) If our police officers are wearing cameras why should we not have cameras in the classroom? What is the downside?

The downside would be the fact that it would blow up an already stagnant and bloated bureaucracy in the school system and flood already strained resources towards dealing with the drama of helicopter parents from both sides who object to something they see in class. It will make teaching a nightmare, take focus away from the students and education, and institutes a principle of big brother survellience on developing children which is not healthy. There are all kinds of horrible side effects that this would cause. You really don't see that?!

I'm fine with cams in day care for infants... I'm fine with steaming lectures for remote learning... I'm not fine with politicizing the schools more than they already are and opening the door for kooky helicopter parents to suck up even more school resources and attention.

Very negative of you. Perhaps kids will behave better and teachers will be able to teach and get through to kids as there will be repercussions. Teachers no longer have to be law enforcement and get into he said she said arguments with parents as everything will be recorded. You really don't see that?!!? Do you have kids?

This isn't about politicizing. It is about making sure kids behave. My wife teaches. The biggest issue is misguided parents who believe the load of crap the kids tell them.

I could go for the security-type cameras, like we currently have in buses and in hallways now. If there is an issue, video can be retrieved and viewed. No problem there.

You might have read earlier there are HUGE student privacy concerns if you simply allow live video feeds into the classrooms indefinitely that all parents can access anytime. I can't see how that happens.

Students may cry me a river. They are in a public classroom. They don’t get privacy.

I get your perspective on this but think beyond discipline problems. Students need privacy from really creepy parents out there for one thing. They are not in the majority but they ARE out there. We have no small number of students on "no media" releases for various reasons, most commonly for non-custodial parents who would love to peep in on live feeds to see if kids are in school--or not.

Not to mention other privacy issues. Just the special education laws alone....

Have the cameras run without a live feed but if an issue occurs there is video proof. Win/win?

There are a lot of ways this can be handled, depending on the school in question, the parents' specific concerns, the privacy concerns involved . . . It could be done like police bodycam footage, where it's archived and made available when a specific question arises; it could be done as a password-protected video feed, with the passwords issued only to custodial parents; it could be done as a password-protected audio feed, so the custodial parent can listen to the lesson without seeing the classroom, and the video can be requested from archives if necessary; it could probably be arranged for the students' faces to be blurred out, if that's a major concern.

Really the only way to placate the myriad of privacy laws, especially concerning custodial issues, special ed, etc, is to record the classroom and access the video when issues arrive. I raised two childre

I did not have the right to see what all the other children were doing and learning--not especially their performance in the classroom, discipline issues--as it was happening.

You simply cannot get around the fact that you're not JUST taping a teacher. You're taping minor children. Sheesh folks.

Wanna do away with police body cams?

Who gets to watch police body cams live?

Do they film minor children?

Asking for anyone who is reasonable here. Obviously that's not you.

If the children's parents favor seeing what you did with their children, your argument lacks merit.


In that case, would you seek other employment???

Are you kidding? Where else could she be this ignorant and sanctimonious all at once?

Sometimes folks hide the real reasons for their statements.