Leaving Iraq was Bush plan, according to Odierno, but US may have to embed US units with Iraqi units

[JakeStarkey]

AUGUST 12, 2015 BY MARCUS WEISGERBER Odierno Wades Into GOP War Over Iraq War - Defense One

// If Iraqi soldiers don’t make progress in the coming months, the Pentagon should recommend embedding troops on the battlefield, says Gen. Raymond Odierno, the outgoing Army chief of staff.

Gen. Ray Odierno, the U.S. Army’s top officer, pushed back on the Iraq War blame game that has dominated the GOP 2016 presidential campaign trail, saying that the U.S.military’s withdrawal from Iraq in 2011 was the Bush administration’s plan all along. Odierno, formerly the senior U.S. general in Iraq, said he was unconvinced at the time that the Iraqi parliament would have approved a longer stay for American troops had Obama administration officials successfully negotiated for it. //

 

[Eaglewings]

 

[g5000]

Gen. Ray Odierno, the U.S. Army’s top officer, pushed back on the Iraq War blame game that has dominated the GOP 2016 presidential campaign trail, saying that the U.S.military’s withdrawal from Iraq in 2011 was the Bush administration’s plan all along.

That's a fact. It was part of the status of forces agreement of 2008.

 

[g5000]

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

1. All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.

2. All United States combat forces shall withdraw from Iraqi cities, villages, and localities no later than the time at which Iraqi Security Forces assume full responsibility for security in an Iraqi province, provided that such withdrawal is completed no later than June 30, 2009.

Signed in duplicate in Baghdad on this 17 th day of November, 2008, in the English and Arabic languages, each text bemg equally authentic.

 

[bendog]

but Jeb said he'd have kept the troops there, and his email server was different from Hillary's.

 

[paulitician]

We're still in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The number of troops are quietly increasing in both countries. Americans are just so damn dumbed-down. Too much Government/Corporate Media. They really don't know better. We're not leaving either country until we've sufficiently raped & pillaged. It is what it is.

 

[bendog]

We're still in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The number of troops are quietly increasing in both countries. Americans are just so damn dumbed-down. Too much Government/Corporate Media. They really don't know better. We're not leaving either country until we've sufficiently raped & plundered. It is what it is.

Ah, but our troops in Iraq are no longer there to keep the sunnis and shia apart. Iran's running the shia and we're running the kurds, and the sunni are either signing up for ISIS or being killed by them. But Jeb still thinks invading was a good idea.

 

[paulitician]

We're still in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The number of troops are quietly increasing in both countries. Americans are just so damn dumbed-down. Too much Government/Corporate Media. They really don't know better. We're not leaving either country until we've sufficiently raped & plundered. It is what it is.

Ah, but our troops in Iraq are no longer there to keep the sunnis and shia apart. Iran's running the shia and we're running the kurds, and the sunni are either signing up for ISIS or being killed by them. But Jeb still thinks invading was a good idea.

The numbers of troops are actually increasing in both countries. But most Americans are so dumbed-down, they truly believe we're currently out of both countries. When the raping & pillaging is complete, we will then leave.

 

[Davros]

We're still in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The number of troops are quietly increasing in both countries. Americans are just so damn dumbed-down. Too much Government/Corporate Media. They really don't know better. We're not leaving either country until we've sufficiently raped & plundered. It is what it is.

Ah, but our troops in Iraq are no longer there to keep the sunnis and shia apart. Iran's running the shia and we're running the kurds, and the sunni are either signing up for ISIS or being killed by them. But Jeb still thinks invading was a good idea.

The numbers of troops are actually increasing in both countries. But most Americans are so dumbed-down, they truly believe we're currently out of both countries. When the raping & pillaging is complete, we will then leave.

What raping and pillaging is being done? None by American forces.

 

[Davros]

We're still in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The number of troops are quietly increasing in both countries. Americans are just so damn dumbed-down. Too much Government/Corporate Media. They really don't know better. We're not leaving either country until we've sufficiently raped & plundered. It is what it is.

Ah, but our troops in Iraq are no longer there to keep the sunnis and shia apart. Iran's running the shia and we're running the kurds, and the sunni are either signing up for ISIS or being killed by them. But Jeb still thinks invading was a good idea.

Jeb has said the invasion was the wrong decision.

 

[paulitician]

We're still in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The number of troops are quietly increasing in both countries. Americans are just so damn dumbed-down. Too much Government/Corporate Media. They really don't know better. We're not leaving either country until we've sufficiently raped & plundered. It is what it is.

Ah, but our troops in Iraq are no longer there to keep the sunnis and shia apart. Iran's running the shia and we're running the kurds, and the sunni are either signing up for ISIS or being killed by them. But Jeb still thinks invading was a good idea.

The numbers of troops are actually increasing in both countries. But most Americans are so dumbed-down, they truly believe we're currently out of both countries. When the raping & pillaging is complete, we will then leave.

What raping and pillaging is being done? None by American forces.

We're still in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The number of troops are quietly increasing in both countries. Americans are just so damn dumbed-down. Too much Government/Corporate Media. They really don't know better. We're not leaving either country until we've sufficiently raped & plundered. It is what it is.

Ah, but our troops in Iraq are no longer there to keep the sunnis and shia apart. Iran's running the shia and we're running the kurds, and the sunni are either signing up for ISIS or being killed by them. But Jeb still thinks invading was a good idea.

The numbers of troops are actually increasing in both countries. But most Americans are so dumbed-down, they truly believe we're currently out of both countries. When the raping & pillaging is complete, we will then leave.

What raping and pillaging is being done? None by American forces.

American Forces serve the Globalist Elites. They do what they're told. We're not in these countries because we think they're swell folks. We're there to steal as much of their resources as possible. When their resources run out, we'll be out. That's how it works.

If Americans weren't so dumbed-down by a corrupt Government/Corporate Media, they would realize the number of troops in both countries is currently increasing. We are not out of these countries. That was just a narrative farce pushed by the usual suspects.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

AUGUST 12, 2015 BY MARCUS WEISGERBER Odierno Wades Into GOP War Over Iraq War - Defense One

// If Iraqi soldiers don’t make progress in the coming months, the Pentagon should recommend embedding troops on the battlefield, says Gen. Raymond Odierno, the outgoing Army chief of staff.

Gen. Ray Odierno, the U.S. Army’s top officer, pushed back on the Iraq War blame game that has dominated the GOP 2016 presidential campaign trail, saying that the U.S.military’s withdrawal from Iraq in 2011 was the Bush administration’s plan all along. Odierno, formerly the senior U.S. general in Iraq, said he was unconvinced at the time that the Iraqi parliament would have approved a longer stay for American troops had Obama administration officials successfully negotiated for it. //

That's odd because Condi got the Iraqi Parliament to agree to it. How'd she do that Jakey?

Further, the Bush Administration left it open after the end of their term so that their successor could reup the agreement.

What no one foresaw Obama switching sides and handing over Iraq, Syria and Libya to his brothers in Jihad

 

[g5000]

There are currently about 3,050 U.S. forces in Iraq. Roughly 2,250 of them are devoted to supporting Iraqi security forces, approximately 450 are training Iraqi troops and about 200 more are acting in advising and assisting roles.

White House OKs up to 450 additional troops in Iraq - CNNPolitics.com

At the peak, there were 170,000 American troops in Iraq in 2007.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Condoleezza Rice We never expected to leave Iraq in 2011 Foreign Policy

"Rice said the Iraqi government, despite SOFA’s Jan. 2012 end date, was not only open to a new agreement that would include an extension for U.S. troops, but expected that a new agreement would eventually be signed.

"We certainly understood that the Iraqis preserved that option and everybody believed that option was going to be exercised," Rice said.

They left it open for their successor. Unfortunately for all involved, the USA elected a Jihad supporter.

See, Obama was going through the motions of negotiating that troops stay on, but then he folded and threw Iraq open to his brothers in Al Qaeda and got ISIS started

"It’s been widely reported that the negotiations between the Obama administration and the Iraqi government this year broke down over the issue of immunity for U.S. troops in post-2011 Iraq. The Obama administration had demanded that immunity be granted by the Iraqi Council of Representatives, the country’s primary legislative body, which was unwilling to do so for political reasons."

 

[bendog]

We're still in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The number of troops are quietly increasing in both countries. Americans are just so damn dumbed-down. Too much Government/Corporate Media. They really don't know better. We're not leaving either country until we've sufficiently raped & plundered. It is what it is.

Ah, but our troops in Iraq are no longer there to keep the sunnis and shia apart. Iran's running the shia and we're running the kurds, and the sunni are either signing up for ISIS or being killed by them. But Jeb still thinks invading was a good idea.

Jeb has said the invasion was the wrong decision.

Jeb Bush I Would Have Authorized the Iraq War

He said he'd have invaded based on the intelligence.

 

[paulitician]

AUGUST 12, 2015 BY MARCUS WEISGERBER Odierno Wades Into GOP War Over Iraq War - Defense One

// If Iraqi soldiers don’t make progress in the coming months, the Pentagon should recommend embedding troops on the battlefield, says Gen. Raymond Odierno, the outgoing Army chief of staff.

Gen. Ray Odierno, the U.S. Army’s top officer, pushed back on the Iraq War blame game that has dominated the GOP 2016 presidential campaign trail, saying that the U.S.military’s withdrawal from Iraq in 2011 was the Bush administration’s plan all along. Odierno, formerly the senior U.S. general in Iraq, said he was unconvinced at the time that the Iraqi parliament would have approved a longer stay for American troops had Obama administration officials successfully negotiated for it. //

That's odd because Condi got the Iraqi Parliament to agree to it. How'd she do that Jakey?

Further, the Bush Administration left it open after the end of their term so that their successor could reup the agreement.

What no one foresaw Obama switching sides and handing over Iraq, Syria and Libya to his brothers in Jihad

That's a good point. He does actually have Muslim Brotherhood members in his Administration. Him and Hillary Clinton tried desperately to get the Muslim Brotherhood in power in both Egypt and Libya. But it didn't happen. The People didn't want them.

And we should have stayed out of the Syrian conflict. ISIS is a direct result of our meddling. Should have actually supported Assad. Then we supported the Kurds against ISIS. But then we allowed Turkey to bomb the Kurds recently. And we all know now that Iraq is a miserable failure. How much more Taxpayer money & lives are gonna be spent in that hellhole? It's all just a horrific mess. Time to bail on the Middle East. Time to come home.

 

[g5000]

Condoleezza Rice We never expected to leave Iraq in 2011 Foreign Policy

"Rice said the Iraqi government, despite SOFA’s Jan. 2012 end date, was not only open to a new agreement that would include an extension for U.S. troops, but expected that a new agreement would eventually be signed.

"We certainly understood that the Iraqis preserved that option and everybody believed that option was going to be exercised," Rice said.

Unmitigated bullshit. The Iraqi leadership made it very plain they wanted us out.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Condoleezza Rice We never expected to leave Iraq in 2011 Foreign Policy

"Rice said the Iraqi government, despite SOFA’s Jan. 2012 end date, was not only open to a new agreement that would include an extension for U.S. troops, but expected that a new agreement would eventually be signed.

"We certainly understood that the Iraqis preserved that option and everybody believed that option was going to be exercised," Rice said.

Unmitigated bullshit. The Iraqi leadership made it very plain they wanted us out.

That's odd because Obama claimed it was over troop immunity post 2011 which Condi already successfully negotiated up to 2011

 

[paulitician]

Condoleezza Rice We never expected to leave Iraq in 2011 Foreign Policy

"Rice said the Iraqi government, despite SOFA’s Jan. 2012 end date, was not only open to a new agreement that would include an extension for U.S. troops, but expected that a new agreement would eventually be signed.

"We certainly understood that the Iraqis preserved that option and everybody believed that option was going to be exercised," Rice said.

Unmitigated bullshit. The Iraqi leadership made it very plain they wanted us out.

Apparently they want us back. But of course we never left anyway. That was just a Bullshit story sold to the Sheeple by the Government/Corporate Media. We're still there and troop numbers are quietly increasing.

 

[Ringel05]

We're still in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The number of troops are quietly increasing in both countries. Americans are just so damn dumbed-down. Too much Government/Corporate Media. They really don't know better. We're not leaving either country until we've sufficiently raped & plundered. It is what it is.

Ah, but our troops in Iraq are no longer there to keep the sunnis and shia apart. Iran's running the shia and we're running the kurds, and the sunni are either signing up for ISIS or being killed by them. But Jeb still thinks invading was a good idea.

The numbers of troops are actually increasing in both countries. But most Americans are so dumbed-down, they truly believe we're currently out of both countries. When the raping & pillaging is complete, we will then leave.

What raping and pillaging is being done? None by American forces.

He's a paranoid corporate global master conspiracy theorist, probably believes in the Illuminati and other crap like that. You'll get rhetoric, innuendo, cherry picked "facts" and a shitload of "interpretation".
Just letting ya know to get on your (neck high) hip waders if you're going to pursue this........