Leaked details of draft peace plan give Putin what he wants

[kyzr]

Do you think it would be a good thing if Elon and Trump could pay off the entire debit by the end of their term?

It would be great if they got any surplus at all.

Now they are talking about a DOGE dividend instead.

 

[Slade3200]

It would be great if they got any surplus at all.

Now they are talking about a DOGE dividend instead.

Where do you think the money from these interest payments goes? Who is actually getting the majority of the funds?

 

[bendog]

It would be great if they got any surplus at all.

Now they are talking about a DOGE dividend instead.

omg, MUSH FOUND WASTE. I give it this much: there's a reason to lay off govt workers and cut programs. Although there's no telling where to cut and who can be laid off without harming citizens. The best case, considering Trump and Mush are not exactly good people, is people will die so we'll find out what spending is really necessary.

It didn't have to be this way. Even during the Obama years, there was some bipartisanship, anthough the House couldn't pass peas with the Freedom Caucus.

 

[berg80]

Baby Donald is shaking his rattle again.


US President Donald Trump called Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky “a dictator,” escalating a public war of words between the two leaders that started when Trump falsely accused Ukraine of starting the war with Russia.

Trump’s accusation, posted on his social media network Truth Social, came just hours after Zelensky accused him of repeating Russian disinformation.

Speaking to reporters in Kyiv, Zelensky pushed back on several unfounded claims the US president made on Tuesday, while reinforcing Ukraine’s position that a deal to end the war needed its involvement.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/19/europe/zelensky-trump-reaction-intl/index.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

 

[bendog]

Baby Donald is shaking his rattle again.


US President Donald Trump called Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky “a dictator,” escalating a public war of words between the two leaders that started when Trump falsely accused Ukraine of starting the war with Russia.

Trump’s accusation, posted on his social media network Truth Social, came just hours after Zelensky accused him of repeating Russian disinformation.

Speaking to reporters in Kyiv, Zelensky pushed back on several unfounded claims the US president made on Tuesday, while reinforcing Ukraine’s position that a deal to end the war needed its involvement.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/19/europe/zelensky-trump-reaction-intl/index.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

Actually, I think Trump reacted to Zelensky complaining he was not at the Saudi meeting.

 

[Seymour Flops]

omg, MUSH FOUND WASTE. I give it this much: there's a reason to lay off govt workers and cut programs. Although there's no telling where to cut and who can be laid off without harming citizens.

Really? No telling?

Most average Americans could look at proposed cuts and layoffs and tell exactly whether they would harm citizens or merely eliminate an unneeded position or end an absurd giveaway.

The best case, considering Trump and Mush are not exactly good people, is people will die so we'll find out what spending is really necessary.

It didn't have to be this way. Even during the Obama years, there was some bipartisanship, anthough the House couldn't pass peas with the Freedom Caucus.

In the unlikely event Trump or DOGE cut something vital, it can quickly be restored.

On the other hand, once money goes out the door, it is very hard to pull it back, no matter how wasteful the spending,

 

[Moonglow]

Another FAILED Democrat war rooted in stupidity. Trump wants to bring this fiasco to an end.

And build a Trump Tower in Moscow

 

[Blisterfinger]

It means you owe money

Bingo! Now you understand.

 

[kyzr]

Where do you think the money from these interest payments goes? Who is actually getting the majority of the funds?

People who buy US bonds to fund the ~$2T borrowing. Duh.

 

[BluesLegend]

Feckless Joe Biden blew $200 billion on a stupid war, with no guarantees of getting any of our money back. Europe is getting their money back. Why? Because he wanted to act like a tough guy. Funding a war that didn't' have to be fought. Never bothering to try to avoid it or end it. Ukraine admits half OUR money went missing, shocker. This will go down as yet another major Joe Biden fiasco.

Now that Trump is taking decisive action to end it, all the people skimming money off the war are squealing like stuck pigs.

 

[kyzr]

omg, MUSH FOUND WASTE. I give it this much: there's a reason to lay off govt workers and cut programs. Although there's no telling where to cut and who can be laid off without harming citizens. The best case, considering Trump and Mush are not exactly good people, is people will die so we'll find out what spending is really necessary.
It didn't have to be this way. Even during the Obama years, there was some bipartisanship, although the House couldn't pass peas with the Freedom Caucus.

Yes they can tell where to cut without harming citizens, but sometimes it takes a second look.
The best case Trump and Musk are very good people.
If anyone dies let us know, otherwise you are lying.
The Freedom Caucus are hard core deficit hawks, God bless them.

In Summary, by comparison: Biden was a disaster, Trump is fantastic.

 

[BluesLegend]

And build a Trump Tower in Moscow

What are you blabbering about moron? Be gone with you, adults are talking.

 

[Moonglow]

What are you blabbering about moron? Be gone with you, adults are talking.

The Truth Behind Trump Tower Moscow​

Forbes
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May 23, 2019 — Special Counsel Robert Mueller's 448-page report highlights three separate proposals to develop a Trump property in Moscow around the time of the election.

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Trump Tower Moscow​

Wikipedia
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Trump Tower Moscow, also known as the Moscow Project, was a series of proposals by the Trump Organization to develop a Trump skyscraper in Russia.

 

[bendog]

Yes they can tell where to cut without harming citizens, but sometimes it takes a second look.
The best case Trump and Musk are very good people.
If anyone dies let us know, otherwise you are lying.
The Freedom Caucus are hard core deficit hawks, God bless them.

In Summary, by comparison: Biden was a disaster, Trump is fantastic.

oh, psycholgical services to vets are being cut now. There will be deaths. But the deaths may identify critical needs.

I will say that the new VA head seems to be trying to limit cuts to workers who actually provide treatment.

remember the saying about money and gaining and losing "it's easier to go up than down." It ain't gonna be pretty.

 

[BluesLegend]

The Truth Behind Trump Tower Moscow​

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Your new name is Joe Biden.

 

[Moonglow]

Your new name is Joe Biden.

Still better than being a terlit trencher like yous.

 

[excalibur]

Hilarious

Dictators be good eh fuckup

Zelensky is a dictator, having dismissed an election (he's on year 6 or 7 of a 5-year term).

He has shuttered churches of various religions, and much more.

Your insult shows how insecure you are, though.

 

[BluesLegend]

Still better than being a terlit trencher like yous.

Joe it's time you grabbed some pine. Go sit on your beach and veg off into the sunset.

 

[excalibur]

Not the Ukrainians. They are the ones being invaded and slaughtered.

A peace deal was in place in 2023. Biden and Boris Johnson said no. What followed? A lot more slaughter. A slaughter you keep cheering on.

 

[Slade3200]

Bingo! Now you understand.

I've understood that from the start... You sound lost in this conversation. What exactly do you think we are talking about?