Zone1 Lawlessness Is Not Compassionate

[SweetSue92]

Another stupid comment

It like saying those who supported the Vietnam War should have enlisted

You're not supporting "compassion". You're supporting crime and theft. Like most liberals, you will support until YOUR car is stolen or YOUR home is robbed. Liberals--the ultimate NIMBYs

 

[SweetSue92]

Really. Legal migration is different from illegal immigration.

I've heard it put like this: People are dining at a fine restaurant and a friend presents a poor man. "Can you pay for this man's meal?"

As opposed to:

"Here, this man is poor. You're gonna give him your steak and wine and let him box up everything on the table."

Big difference.

 

[Meriweather]

I've heard it put like this: People are dining at a fine restaurant and a friend presents a poor man. "Can you pay for this man's meal?"

As opposed to:

"Here, this man is poor. You're gonna give him your steak and wine and let him box up everything on the table."

Big difference.

Yes. And the same can be said about a poor person coming into my backyard and stealing my lawn mower. Why not knock on my door and ask if he can have my lawn mower? I would not be surprised to hear myself say, "Instead, let's meet at Home Depot and I'll buy you a new lawn mower."

 

[irosie91]

Thank you for your concession. You lost the argument. You can try to keep shaming, but until you get robbed and say, meh, the thieves were poor, they can take my stuff, you don't have a leg to stand on.


He might have done, sure. But you're asking that the crime/sin be overlooked. Jesus NEVER did that. NEVER.

I am intrigued with the christian "what would Jesus do"?---
the "emulate Jesus" principle. For the record---Muslims
do the same with Muhummad. An example of a very religious
christian, historically, is Queen Isabella. Osama bin Laden
was known for his islamic religiosity. Both were EMULATORS.
I am not particularly concerned with Muhummad's ETERNAL
FEELINGS----but leave poor Jesus alone. At the very least--you
have insufficient evidence. He did say (accoding to the NT)
"cast not your pearls before swine"----it's an adage lifted from
the talmud

 

[Foxfyre]

"Tom Homan?" I'm not sure how credible and reliable that man is on this topic.

I believe you have obscenely exaggerated the cases of what you claim. Evidence is lacking. Anecdotal stories are not considered reliable evidence on their own.

Can we deal with facts here? Please? Can we?

Tom Homan spent 34 years with the CBP and served four Presidents. That gives him a hell of a lot of credibility and I do not mind saying he knows a hell of lot more about it than you do. Speaking of credibility.

 

[Foxfyre]

So….I take it migrants are thieves
Also murderers, rapists and drug dealers
They also eat puppies and kittens

Did I leave anything out?

If even only1% of 20 million migrants are violent/dangerous criminals, that would be 200,000 violent/dangerous criminals turned loose in the country. And the estimates are that the percentage is higher than 1%.

 

[rightwinger]

If even only1% of 20 million migrants are violent/dangerous criminals, that would be 200,000 violent/dangerous criminals turned loose in the country. And the estimates are that the percentage is higher than 1%.

Less than the population as a whole
Doesn’t negate the fact that the overwhelming majority are hard working trying to support their family

 

[rightwinger]

Thank you for your concession. You lost the argument. You can try to keep shaming, but until you get robbed and say, meh, the thieves were poor, they can take my stuff, you don't have a leg to stand on.


He might have done, sure. But you're asking that the crime/sin be overlooked. Jesus NEVER did that. NEVER.

You keep spreading the hate and fear mongering against migrants
Eating cats and dogs is not enough?

 

[JoeB131]

Do you support inviting tens of millions of migrants here knowing that a great many if not most of the women and many children will be raped/sexually assaulted if not trafficked, that many will subsist on government charity for months/years on end? That some will die terrible and unnecessary deaths getting here?

except most of them aren't being trafficked. Not even close. But if you are really worried about human trafficking (and not just using that as an excuse to exclude brown people), then repeal the stupid prostitution laws and have legal brothels where they are regulated, inspected, and taxed regularly. Problem solved.

And those are the ones who are not national security risks, who won't be stealing, committing assault and battery, raping, terrorizing, murdering, joining with others in violent gangs or are on assignment to commit mass murder?

We've been over this. Undocumented immigrants and immigrants in general are LESS likely to break the law than people born here because they are trying to keep out of trouble.

And what of justice and humanity for their victims? For those forced to support them thus draining national resources and making us less able to help those who are in real need?

If you guys really cared about crime victims, you'd support gun control, addiction centers, and mental health treatment for the poor people who commit crimes. That would do a lot more good than hassling some poor pregnant woman at a hospital.

How much better to have an orderly common sense immigration process where people apply for visas to come visit or to work or go to school or otherwise be in the country legally? How does that not produce more justice? is more humane?

Except Visa overstays are more of a problem than people crossing the border. They make up 41% of undocumented immigrants.

 

[JoeB131]

You keep spreading the hate and fear mongering against migrants
Eating cats and dogs is not enough?

And then she tells us she's a good "Christian".

 

[Foxfyre]

Less than the population as a whole
Doesn’t negate the fact that the overwhelming majority are hard working trying to support their family

Most of those 20 million are not working at all. Don't confuse actual immigrants with the migrant invasion.

 

[HeyNorm]

I could not believe the far rights outrage over a Bishop pleading with Trump to show mercy.

What a Christian value….to show mercy to those who are outcasts or are suffering

Fundamentalist Christians choose Trump over Christian values

Be like Jesus, remove all locks from your homes doors and set no rules for entry.

Or simply, stfu

 

[rightwinger]

Most of those 20 million are not working at all. Don't confuse actual immigrants with the migrant invasion.

Not true

 

[rightwinger]

Be like Jesus, remove all locks from your homes doors and set no rules for entry.

Or simply, stfu

I lock my doors in case of Republicans

They are more dangerous

 

[HeyNorm]

I lock my doors in case of Republicans

They are more dangerous

So you would dare lock your doors, but don’t allow our country to do the same?

What are you, the devil?

Coward.

 

[ding]

And here I thought they wanted to keep religion - especially Christianity - out of government?

 

[BreezeWood]

Do you support inviting tens of millions of migrants here knowing that a great many if not most of the women and many children will be raped/sexually assaulted if not trafficked,

really - that is why they risk life and limb to come here ... and much caused by the policies of this country.

How much better to have an orderly common sense immigration process where people apply for visas to come visit or to work or go to school or otherwise be in the country legally? How does that not produce more justice? is more humane?

your post implies inviting them - no problem there w/ their response.

why didn't the previous trump adms prohibit their employment to solve the issue ... because they work for him at less than minimum wage same for the rest of the republicans that continue to prevent those laws from being enacted.

 

[BreezeWood]

But you're asking that the crime/sin be overlooked. Jesus NEVER did that. NEVER.

jesus knew what was crime and sin ...

not sour sue et al ...

their hearts lie with the junta to solve what those poor people need to know about keeping their place - whether starving or not.

 

[Meriweather]

So you would dare lock your doors, but don’t allow our country to do the same?

What are you, the devil?

Coward.

rightwinger is neither devil nor coward. Note he freely takes a swing at Republicans but gives a pass to illegal immigrants. Perhaps that is because he views Republicans as the 'haves' and illegal immigrants as the 'have nots'. He is not in the arena, but he sides with illegal immigrants over American citizens, perhaps believing most citizens fall into the 'have' category. It's neither devilish nor cowardly to have a generous heart. My perspective is that this is a situation that he doesn't fully understand all the ramifications. So, all he may be guilty of is naivete.

 

[BreezeWood]

And here I thought they wanted to keep religion - especially Christianity - out of government?

yes, there is no place for religion in gov't that is as corrupt as the desert religions and their immoral representatives.