Law Professor Jonathan Turley Dismantles the Trump Indictment: ‘The American People Aren’t Buying It’

[NotfooledbyW]

Seems like a president shouldn’t be allowed to reverse the outcome of an election he lost.

What if he lost it due to fraud? He should be allowed to contest it try and have it reversed?

All states certified their elections by December 14, 2020. Trump had until that date to prove in a courtroom that he won a state that was called for Biden.

A rational human being will recognize that democracy cannot function if a loser is the one who gets to declare fraud and everything just stops to appease the loser.

So five or six weeks may not be much time for a fucking sore assed loser like Trump to prove the fraud he suspects cost him the election; but the Constitution says certify by December 14 (2020 election) and then count the certified results on January 6.

Of course there has been weeping and gnashing of teeth in Trump’s Biblical Fantasy Land over no court granting Loser Orange Messiah (LOM) a court ruling to stop seven states from certifying their challenged but verified results.

On December 14 the election was over and there became no avenue of redress for Trump to avoid conceding he had lost.

Your line of argument Rawley was dead before you brought it up;

Electoral College electors are scheduled to meet in states across the country on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December (Dec. 14 this year) to cast their votes.​

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And if a state has finalized its results six days before then, according to the ECA, then those results qualify for "safe harbor" status — meaning Congress must treat them as the "conclusive" results, even if, for example, a state's legislature sends in a competing set of results.​

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Every state except Wisconsin appears to have met the deadline, according to The Associated Press. Wisconsin's 10 electoral votes are still expected to be cast for Biden on Monday; he won the state by just over 20,000 votes.​

Key Election Dates​

Dec. 8: States finish vote certification
Dec. 14: Electors vote
Jan. 6: Congress formalizes the outcome
Jan. 20: Inauguration Day
»Read a full timeline from Election Day to Inauguration Day.

"If a state can conclude its process of appointing electors by that [safe harbor deadline] then Congress is bound by federal law to accept the slate of electors that is arrived upon by that date," said Rebecca Green, the co-director of the Election Law program at William and Mary.​

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Jesus! Orange Persons! get some basic High School Civics homework before spewing Trump Trash on a message board

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Absurdity under review:

the statute was ambiguous enough to allow for the Presidents' interpretation.

 

[Rawley]

I am. We have the Eastman memo they reference.

Have you seen it?

LOL, So why did you cite something else that didn't support your claim?

 

[Marener]

LOL, So why did you cite something else that didn't support your claim?

The indictment references the Eastman memo.

Jesus, do you need someone to draw you a picture because this seems like it might be a little bit too complicated for you.

 

[Rawley]

The indictment references the Eastman memo.

Jesus, do you need someone to draw you a picture because this seems like it might be a little bit too complicated for you.

Rather than condescending. pretentious insults, 'You're right Rawley, I fucked up' would have been an honest response.

Oh well.

Have a blessed day.

 

[Marener]

Rather than condescending. pretentious insults, 'You're right Rawley, I fucked up' would have been an honest response.

Oh well.

Have a blessed day.

Because I didn’t fuck up. I assumed you could read and comprehend but you’re not honest enough to do so.

Have you seen the Eastman memo or not?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Come on Struth, why did you run off and hide?

Answer these questions.

Why in the hell is the party 95% white?

Tell me something the republican party has done in the last 60yrs that has helped black folks.

Tell me why republicans are against police reform.

Tell me why republicans voted against the John Lewis Voting bill.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

It's amazing how ole Ex starts all these threads with all the lawyers talking about how Trump can get off and how Trump can win these cases, but none of them seem to want to join the Trump Team. Why is that?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The problem is the DOJ’s attack on Biden’s opponent - under Biden’s direction to do so - may have the desired effect before it gets to the SCOTUS. Many Americans are not that smart or knowledgeable, and will fall for it on the most limited level. It also will tie up Trump’s resources and impede his ability to run a successful campaign.

The true threat to democracy is the occupier of the WH, who has directed and/or approved the DOJ arresting and trying to imprison the man would would likely beat him in the 2024:election.

So Trump has almost 80 charges against him, if this were anyone else you would be telling them to throw the book at him. Do you even care if Trump broke the law or does he fit your racist agenda so much that you are willing to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

What if he lost it due to fraud? He should be allowed to contest it try and have it reversed?

Key Election Dates​

Dec. 8: States finish vote certification
Dec. 14: Electors vote
Jan. 6: Congress formalizes the outcom

If a state can conclude its process of appointing electors by that [safe harbor deadline] then Congress is bound by federal law to accept the slate of electors that is arrived upon by that date,"

Have a blessed day.

Message to Marener When an Orange Person tells you to

Have a blessed day.

It’s possible (slimly possible) that it means you have touched a brain cell or two in a cult dependent mind and “have a blessed day” is a signal from that mind that it wants to be free to be able to know truth once again.

Of course that’s assuming they once knew truth and how to process it before the Tea Party brainwashing establishment was formed leaving truth by the wayside for millions of aggrieved white straight “traditional” people because a black evangelical Christian born in Hawaii was elected President.

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[Lesh]

Law Professor Jonathan Turley Dismantles the Trump Indictment: ​

‘The American People Aren’t Buying It’ ​

Law Professor Jonathan Turley Dismantles the Trump Indictment: 'The American People Aren't Buying It' (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Mike LaChance

Professor Jonathan Turley of George Washington University may be a liberal, but he is an honest man.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

3 Aug 2023 ~~ By mike Lachance

Professor Jonathan Turley of George Washington University may be a liberal, but he is an honest man.
He recently appeared on the Sean Hannity show and took apart the Trump indictment piece by piece, leaving it in tatters on the floor.
Turley said that it was completely understandable why the American people think we have a two-tiered justice system and called the Trump indictment an attack on free speech.
Transcript via Real Clear Politics:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/08/01/turley_on_trump_this_is_a_free_speech_killing_indictment_dems_are_reaching_the_line_with_the_american_public.html

~Snip~

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Democrats and the media know all of this but they can’t admit it. They’re terrified that Trump could win again and so they’re playing offense.


Commentary:
Throughout America there is a slow simmer building under the surface right now, and I suspect a lot of Americans are going to be reaching a boiling point soon. If we all hit that boiling point at the same time, it's gonna get ugly... and fast.
Never in my 87 years have I ever seen this level of unbridled corruption and treason. Even the Cosa Nostra had more scruples of allegiance and loyalty to America.
Maoist/DSA Democrats and the Quisling Media are desperate and doing everything they can to prevent 45 from running 2024, and it's so blatantly obvious.
I hope he gets elected again, I'll bet he already made a long list of people who will be losing their jobs on day one, starting with the DOJ, FBI and CIA.
At tis point Maoist Democrats are becoming desperate, doing everything they can to prevent ted `People`s President` from running 2024, and it's blatantly obvious.
I'll bet Trump already has a long list of people who will be losing their jobs on day one, beginning with the DOJ, FBI and CIA.
Stalinist/Maoist Communists have a long history of vilifying, murdering or arresting their opposition. We`ve recently seen that in China, Venezuela and Brazil .
Trump is to be tried for `Wrong think` Thoughtcrimes.
If we the `People` allow this to occur, all of us will be held to this Orwellian standard. When Biden or the powers that be don’t like the way you think, they will arrest and try you, put you in a camp for re-education..

Why would a legal professional be referring to what “the American public would buy”?

That’s hardly a legal argument and exposes him as political rather than legal

Turley has been a Trump hack from the beginning. Lord knows why

 

[Lisa558]

So Trump has almost 80 charges against him, if this were anyone else you would be telling them to throw the book at him. Do you even care if Trump broke the law or does he fit your racist agenda so much that you are willing to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear.

Trump has no racist agenda, fool.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Trump has no racist agenda, fool.

You're right he doesn't have any agenda fool, other than keeping himself out of prison.

I noticed you didn't answer the question which we pretty much already know the answer to.

Trump Humpers don't give a damn if he broke the law, he fits your racist ideology so you want him back in office.

 

[Lisa558]

You're right he doesn't have any agenda fool, other than keeping himself out of prison.

I noticed you didn't answer the question which we pretty much already know the answer to.

Trump Humpers don't give a damn if he broke the law, he fits your racist ideology so you want him back in office.

Biden humpers don’t give a damn that the CURRENT president has committed foreign corruption to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, and that these bogus indictments against Trump are a deflection from that. Just look at the timeline as to when thee indictments come down.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Biden humpers don’t give a damn that the CURRENT president has committed foreign corruption to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, and that these bogus indictments against Trump are a deflection from that. Just look at the timeline as to when thee indictments come down.

So why is it that folks keep saying that if Biden broke the Law bring him to the Bar of Justice. You folks keep claiming you have all of this damning evidence against him, but you have yet to produce any. What's the hold up?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Trump has no racist agenda, fool.

I saw that your guy is going to be indicted for pertaining to deprivation of rights;

Trump has now been indicted for violating a statute used to protect people’s rights from the KKK. His plot to remain in the White House required disenfranchising every single vote cast in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico which included white voters and every other race and national origin.

But when you review the attacks on the alleged election fraud in those states, the locations are in big cities where majorities of people of color live and vote and rejected Donald J Trump. Trump was saving all the white grievance votes that went to him in the 43 other states which would have given him a win if Mike Pence, decided to commit the fraud he was being pressured into committing. That’s as racist as it gets Lisa. You are as racist as it gets for your refusal not to see it.

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[postman]

So nothing illegal

What if he lost it due to fraud? He should be allowed to contest it try and have it reversed? Seems like that's his Constitutional duty, no?

And that duty is carried out by submitting his grievances to a court of law. Not by starting an armed uprising against the nations capitol.

 

[Rawley]

Why would a legal professional be referring to what “the American public would buy”?

Because the American people understand this is a political matter, not a legal one. The majority of American recognize this as Biden attempting to stop his strongest political opponent.

 

[Rawley]

And that duty is carried out by submitting his grievances to a court of law. Not by starting an armed uprising against the nations capitol.

Burns you that even Comrade Smith recognized how ridiculous an argument that was.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

With Mr. Trump about to go out of control, what Turley thinks will become irrelevant.

The Judges will not be up with a rampaign trumpetering Mr. Trump. They will jail him. And there will be new indictments.

Every American must submit to the law.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

"If a state can conclude its process of appointing electors by that [safe harbor deadline] then Congress is bound by federal law to accept the slate of electors that is arrived upon by that date,"

Why would a legal professional be referring to what “the American public would buy”?

Because the American people understand this is a political matter, not a legal one.

And that duty is carried out by submitting his grievances to a court of law.

Burns you that even Comrade Smith recognized how ridiculous an argument that was.

We are discussing a matter of law and Constitutional protection of the “one person one vote” essential right to sustain a 270 year old democracy.

It is not a matter of what Rawley constructs to be a universal understanding by Americans that this is a political witch-hunt by a secular oppressive deep state in control of the Justice Department to nefariously eliminate the one human being alive who will have the power to destroy the deep state and replace it with a Judeo-Christian values deep state that will drive satanic forces out of our lives.

Nothing is more absurd than that and the only believers of total whack-a-doodlia are the followers of the criminal who had been lawfully indicted and presumed innocent like every other man or woman who calls America home.

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