Latest Hamas leader has reached room temperature

[M14 Shooter]

And the people who actually live there have the right to object.

They do - and they should be mightily pissed a Jordan, which stole their citizenship and representation in government.
None of that, of course, changes the fact Israel has the right to settle Israeli land.

 

[Jroc]

Europeans have their countries too. I wonder how many are willing to give them up? Certainly not the Ukrainians.

They Don't have to give up any of those countries. The Jews dont have to give up Israel a country that wasn't given to them and they fought for that...you missed the point entirely.. there is no country called, Palestine. never has been, there isn't today and there isn't going to be. Those Arabs should be shipped over to the rest of the surrounding countries

 

[Jroc]

1) HAMAS are withholding food from the GAZANS. Are the Gazans so antisemitic and brainwashed that they don’t realize this?

2) HAMAS is fighting against the interests of the Gazan people. They had a land offer on the table, and HAMAS rejected it because it required they acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Are you saying the Gazans are so stupid, brainwashed, and antisemitic that they think HAMAS acted in their best interests?

Most of these people have probably already been tortured and killed..

 

[alang1216]

So you’re comparing Trump savage HAMAS killers?

The comparison is only that not everyone in0q their country supports every thing that they do.

 

[Jroc]

I agree. But the antisemites have used Islamic terrorist propoganda against Israel to turn gullible, ignorant people (they mostly leftists) against Israel.

Now Israel is being forced to accept a cease-fire and give HAMAS an opportunity to rearm.

There's not going to be any ceasefire

 

[alang1216]

I’m talking about GAZA, where you libs are screaming “genocide” - and from where they launched a barbaric attack against Jews on Oct 7, and where the Palestinians cheered when they heard Jewish babies were tortured to death. They were given the opportunity for their own land, and TURNED IT DOWN.

That is because their objective is the destruction of Israel, not their own land. And you libs are too anti-Jewish to see it.

I'm not defending either side since neither wants peace more than victory.

 

[alang1216]

The point is that Arabs have driven Jews off of 99.6% of Middle East land, and are now focused on driving them off the remaining 0.4% where they fleed (or were expelled) for safety.

And you think the Arabs should get that little sliver too? Where will the Jews go? Why can’t the Arabs go to the 99% of the land THEY own?

Israel has a right to exist but it doesn't have the rights to the West Bank or Gaza.

 

[alang1216]

Yeah, riiiiight,,,,,there was no Jew-hate before 1948. SMH,

(Leftists like to pretend that it is Israel’s fault there is Jew-hate. Not-so-subtle way of blaming Jews for antisemitism.)

Again, I see the conflict in political terms, it is Zionism that is hated.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Israel has a right to exist but it doesn't have the rights to the West Bank or Gaza.

Jordan ceded the WB to Israel - Israel has every right to it.

 

[alang1216]

They do - and they should be mightily pissed a Jordan, which stole their citizenship and representation in government.
None of that, of course, changes the fact Israel has the right to settle Israeli land.

Only Israel considers it Israeli land.

They Don't have to give up any of those countries. The Jews dont have to give up Israel a country that wasn't given to them and they fought for that...you missed the point entirely.. there is no country called, Palestine. never has been, there isn't today and there isn't going to be. Those Arabs should be shipped over to the rest of the surrounding countries

That falls within the definition of genocide.

 

[Jroc]

Would you say I deserved it just by being born here?

Nah....

Only Israel considers it Israeli land.

That falls within the definition of genocide.

An idiots definition

 

[M14 Shooter]

Only Israel considers it Israeli land.

Jordan ceded the land via treaty in 1994.
It is Israeli land under international law; the opinion of others is irrelevant to this.

That falls within the definition of genocide.

For those who do know know what genocide actually means - sure.

Definitions of Genocide and Related Crimes | United Nations

www.un.org

 

[Jroc]

Israel has a right to exist but it doesn't have the rights to the West Bank or Gaza.

So if the Arabs had one those wars they would have given the land back to the Jews? .. Every Jew would have been slaughtered

 

[Lisa558]

The comparison is only that not everyone in0q their country supports every thing that they do.

That’s quite a stretch:

1) Some people in America don’t like that Trump won the election.

2) Some people in Gaza don’t like that HAMAS savages broke into an Israeli kibbutz and decapitated babies, raped women until they were dead, burned toddlers to death, and dismembered men limb by limb until they bled out in agony,

Are you not able to comprehend that many decent people - about half of the country - think the Trump win was a great thing, but that NO decent people would think the intentional hunting down and torturing of innocent people is a good thing?

No equity here.

 

[Lisa558]

I don't see Judea or Samaria listed anywhere. Not surprising since they existed for a few hundred years and disappeared thousands of years ago. Not a great historical basis for the modern country of Israel.

I don’t see Constantinople on the map, either, but that doesn’t mean Instanbul hasn’t existed for thousands of years. Just a different name.

I'm not defending either side since neither wants peace more than victory.

Except you’ve been repeatedly told that isn’t true. The Jews offered the Jew-haters their own land in return for peace. The Jew-haters rejected the offer.

Stop being such a leftist and face that the Jew-haters had a chance for peace and turned it down because the destruction of Israel is their goal. Not peace.

 

[Lisa558]

So if the Arabs had one those wars they would have given the land back to the Jews? .. Every Jew would have been slaughtered

If anything, the Jews have been too accommodating to the Gazans, despite the fact they want Israel destroyed. If the Jews had remained in Gaza, instead of vacating it 20 years ago, there would have been no Oct 7.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Stop being such a leftist and face that the Jew-haters had a chance for peace and turned it down because the destruction of Israel is their goal. Not peace.

Funny how the only people who cannot see this are those who also seek the destruction of Israel.

 

[Lisa558]

Funny how the only people who cannot see this are those who also seek the destruction of Israel.

And then they will deny that antisemitism has anything to do with their unwillingness to see the truth.

 

[alang1216]

No equity here.

You're right. Hamas kills up close and personal. Israel has an air force.

 

[alang1216]

I don’t see Constantinople on the map, either, but that doesn’t mean Instanbul hasn’t existed for thousands of years. Just a different name.

How many Byzantine people live in Istanbul?

Except you’ve been repeatedly told that isn’t true. The Jews offered the Jew-haters their own land in return for peace. The Jew-haters rejected the offer.

Who was involved in the negotiations? There is 'peace' in the West Bank. And settlers.

Stop being such a leftist and face that the Jew-haters had a chance for peace and turned it down because the destruction of Israel is their goal. Not peace.

I think many of the Israelis feel the same about Palestinians and peace.