last major update for 10 is out

[The Duke]

been running raid1 for 20 years, not only does it increase read which I mostly do but auto backup
one drive needs replaced, swap in a new one.......rebuild, all good to go

I have acronis as well just for another C backup

that said I have never had a drive just up and die and wipe out my system
hell, I still have an IBM deskstar 40mb that somehow works, slow as paint drying of course

^ I have, a couple times. I usually just copy important stuff every now and then.
The OS I use for business is on a wonky SSD. Need to fix that.
Dude, for read speed? With the way SSDs are now, RAID is an extra unnecessary step, extra moving parts.
Regular SSD will read/write around 400-ish MB/s
NVMe SSD, 900mb-1.-something GB/s.
No RST or RAID hardware/software needed.
I broke apart an 8TB RAID and moved everything onto regular drives, too much of a hassle.
For platter drives, it was about 355 MB/S, but you gotta boot just right n stuff.
Screw all that. Plug in an SSD. No extra stuff needed. Simpler.

 

[egp320i]

^ I have, a couple times. I usually just copy important stuff every now and then.
The OS I use for business is on a wonky SSD. Need to fix that.
Dude, for read speed? With the way SSDs are now, RAID is an extra unnecessary step, extra moving parts.
Regular SSD will read/write around 400-ish MB/s
NVMe SSD, 900mb-1.-something GB/s.
No RST or RAID hardware/software needed.
I broke apart an 8TB RAID and moved everything onto regular drives, too much of a hassle.
For platter drives, it was about 355 MB/S, but you gotta boot just right n stuff.
Screw all that. Plug in an SSD. No extra stuff needed. Simpler.

Raid 1 on 870's I break 1100 read which maxes out 3.0, I have raid1 also on a media drive, speed there does not matter, I rarely access it
I don't have PCIE on my older board, I do on my newer board and I could upgrade and get 3000 read but would I really notice 5 seconds from load time, would programs really look that much faster?
I can't set up raid1 with pcie, future build with two pcie slots I will go that route

sadly per the rules here you can't really mention another forum even if it's a computer/tech forum only but they have been around for a really long time, been a member there for 20 something years

 

[The Duke]

Raid 1 on 870's I break 1100 read which maxes out 3.0, I have raid1 also on a media drive, speed there does not matter, I rarely access it
I don't have PCIE on my older board, I do on my newer board and I could upgrade and get 3000 read but would I really notice 5 seconds from load time, would programs really look that much faster?
I can't set up raid1 with pcie, future build with two pcie slots I will go that route

sadly per the rules here you can't really mention another forum even if it's a computer/tech forum only but they have been around for a really long time, been a member there for 20 something years

I'd know which one it was.
You can abbreviate and it's not promoting it to draw traffic off or anything.
PCIE NVMe is the way to go, IMO.
Oh, another reason I always reinstall Windows is because I get 9 mos of Primocache with each time I do it.
It's on there, but not installed. One is 90 days, and one is 180 days.
3GB RAM cache for reading/writing just like a RAID drive. I got the settings down.
What's your handle?
[H] "TH" "TG" "LTT" Anand, the AGW loon "Thumper" one. ;X

 

[egp320i]

sounds like a pain in the ass, I hate installing windows from scratch, move files, reinstall programs, games, adjust this and that you know, take copies of FF so you can get your tabs back, it's a workout

 

[The Duke]

sounds like a pain in the ass, I hate installing windows from scratch, move files, reinstall programs, games, adjust this and that you know, take copies of FF so you can get your tabs back, it's a workout

I don't install from scratch. I copy it with all the tweaks that worked and programs and everything preinstalled.
With either Linux or Acronis.

 

[egp320i]

I don't install from scratch. I copy it with all the tweaks that worked and programs and everything preinstalled.
With either Linux or Acronis.

never a fan of tweaks per say, they can glitch depending on the source code

people who try and hack windows to install for free are just stupid, you can get keys for 20 bucks or something, no need to go out and buy the DVD for 110 bucks or so

 

[The Duke]

never a fan of tweaks per say, they can glitch depending on the source code

people who try and hack windows to install for free are just stupid, you can get keys for 20 bucks or something, no need to go out and buy the DVD for 110 bucks or so

Huh? It's my Windows set up the way I like, I just keep reusing it.
With Cortana and other crap background stuff ripped out by the root, frees up CPU usage.
So do reg and system.cfg and desktop tweaks. So, setting all that up proper is a pain in the ass.
Especially with all the drivers and software and everything.
So once it's right or close to right, I save that progress.
Source code? Wtf?!
I tell ya what, I failed about 4-5X at getting the Install right before this one worked, and I'm not going back.
Speaking of Windows keys and things like that, oh, I got a gem!
It's got it all! A CD book of everything. AOL 3.0 even.
95, 98, XP, all of it. Ofc all of that fits in a folder, too, if imaged.
Encarta!
Epic yard sale find.

 

[egp320i]

Huh? It's my Windows set up the way I like, I just keep reusing it.
With Cortana and other crap background stuff ripped out by the root, frees up CPU usage.
So do reg and system.cfg and desktop tweaks. So, setting all that up proper is a pain in the ass.
Especially with all the drivers and software and everything.
So once it's right or close to right, I save that progress.
Source code? Wtf?!
I tell ya what, I failed about 4-5X at getting the Install right before this one worked, and I'm not going back.
Speaking of Windows keys and things like that, oh, I got a gem!
It's got it all! A CD book of everything. AOL 3.0 even.
95, 98, XP, all of it. Ofc all of that fits in a folder, too, if imaged.
Encarta!
Epic yard sale find.

not sure I follow, if the OS is outdated and you don't get security fixes you are just installing it again, same problem
I don't recall ever using cortana for anyting

reg edits can bork your system if you don't know what you are doing, I'll pass on that one

not sure anybody wants a blackbook of keys for 95 or 98, vastly oudated, slow, useless and pointless or AOL 3.0, haha that's and oldie but goodie if you still have a modem!
really, AOL does not exits other than email, no paid plane to get on the net of course

 

[The Duke]

not sure I follow, if the OS is outdated and you don't get security fixes you are just installing it again, same problem
I don't recall ever using cortana for anyting

reg edits can bork your system if you don't know what you are doing, I'll pass on that one

not sure anybody wants a blackbook of keys for 95 or 98, vastly oudated, slow, useless and pointless or AOL 3.0, haha that's and oldie but goodie if you still have a modem!
really, AOL does not exits other than email, no paid plane to get on the net of course

There's probably some business that needs it for their hardware.
"blackbook" Wtf are you on about?
This thing's like a time capsule. Gateway software and all.

 

[The Duke]

not sure I follow, if the OS is outdated and you don't get security fixes you are just installing it again, same problem
I don't recall ever using cortana for anyting

reg edits can bork your system if you don't know what you are doing, I'll pass on that one

not sure anybody wants a blackbook of keys for 95 or 98, vastly oudated, slow, useless and pointless or AOL 3.0, haha that's and oldie but goodie if you still have a modem!
really, AOL does not exits other than email, no paid plane to get on the net of course

The thing is..I know what I'm doing.
What kinda system you runnin' there, Skippy?

 

[egp320i]

The thing is..I know what I'm doing.
What kinda system you runnin' there, Skippy?

well it's not a competition per say, I7 16GB of ram 3060, twin 870s, works great for me

been building computers for 25 years this year, myself, friends and family and they all still work

I hand pick the parts and put them together myself, only the best parts will do

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nah. But it is nice to know I am not the last one holding out on loading 11.
I liked XP back in the day and had some good software that did not run on 10.

I don't see much difference between 10 and 11. You get used to either one, neither are a problem. I use 11.

 

[The Duke]

well it's not a competition per say, I7 16GB of ram 3060, twin 870s, works great for me

been building computers for 25 years this year, myself, friends and family and they all still work

I hand pick the parts and put them together myself, only the best parts will do

What motherboard?
i7 920? What?
I'm running a Ryzen 6-core with 24GB of B-Die on an x470 platform.
with a PCIE 2TB Rocket NVME drive and a GTX 1660 Super. ($209)

 

[Bleipriester]

My neighbor brought me his ancient Pentium 4 computer and wanted me to install Windows 10 on it. But I don´t have 32 bit version so I put XP on it. Gonna be fun.

 

[Flopper]

it's more polished than 10 but the GUI is not for everybody if you like the classic shell. I never liked the whole tile thing they had with 8 I think
engine wise, yes blue screens have more info, better security, that is why you need TPM 2.0

11 turns on bitlocker whether you want it to or not? I'll need to check on this

Bit locker can be a real pain in the ass if you often boot from different installed drives. You can turn if off in Windows 11 by specifying the drive and allowing Windows to decrypt it. I've learned to live with it and guess it's worth the effort.

 

[Flopper]

My neighbor brought me his ancient Pentium 4 computer and wanted me to install Windows 10 on it. But I don´t have 32 bit version so I put XP on it. Gonna be fun.

I hate having to deal with obsolete operating systems and hardware. Every time I try connect any new hardware or software, there are problems.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

I tried mint, it's ok but when you started with 95 is still feels kinda funny
if you want just to browse the internet, do some basic word processing it can work
they have made it as close to windows as they legally can
tried fordora red hat ages ago, ah trying to get updates it's weird
if you know linux well it's familiar otherwise it feels strange, like apple OS

I have an old built of mine that still works, core2 4gb or ram, perfectly fine for mint when I can get around it just for fun
I want to say it has 7 but possible I upgraded to 10, lack of ram it's slow but I probably have some memory laying around in my computer drawer to give it a slight bump

Mint is great

Zorin is also a good alternative for a windows like gui

 

[Flopper]

I don't see much difference between 10 and 11. You get used to either one, neither are a problem. I use 11.

I ran both 10 and 11 for over a year. After I got use to 11, I preferred. I like copilot and I like the autosave on word and excel. Also I find the multiple desktops useful. The only thing I don't like is having to deal with Edge and Bing. I would rather deal with chrome and google.

 

[egp320i]

I ran both 10 and 11 for over a year. After I got use to 11, I preferred. I like copilot and I like the autosave on word and excel. Also I find the multiple desktops useful. The only thing I don't like is having to deal with Edge and Bing. I would rather deal with chrome and google.

you can install firefox, been using it for 20 something years, it's my go to browser, I only use edge for a few things, I also have chrome and I have not fired it up in many months, it's a memory hog

 

[egp320i]

Mint is great

Zorin is also a good alternative for a windows like gui

yeah mint is nice, they have some different versions, not sure what they do but last I tried it I chose cinnamon which seems to be the main copy