Larry Silverstein Wants To Sue Airlines

There is only one thing which would make me think the Airlines are responsible for 9/11 and that was an article that was on the net on 9/12 but gone two days later that said the box cutters used by the hijackers were placed there by the cleaning crew, many of which were illegal immigrants.

Since that article is gone, I have to assume either A) our government doesn't want us to know that illegals were responsible for 9/11 or B) illegals are not responsible for 9/11.

Now if the cleaning crew didn't plant the box cutters on the airplanes, I can't see how you could possibly blame the airlines for 9/11. They lost the most on that day. United Airlines lost 2 planes, several crew members as well as employees that were flying on passes and friends of employees that were flying on passes. Everyone at United lost their pension plans. Many of them lost their jobs. Those that were left took several pay cuts...how much exactly do you want them to pay?
 
I think the idea of a pension plan is a bit outdated. You're supposed to work and save, work and save, work and save. Not work and spend, work and spend, work and spend and then when you retire, you'll make the same salary for the next 20 years as you made in your final year. I think companies set this up after the Great Depression, but never took into account what would happen if the company could no longer afford to pay its pensions.
 
I think the idea of a pension plan is a bit outdated. You're supposed to work and save, work and save, work and save. Not work and spend, work and spend, work and spend and then when you retire, you'll make the same salary for the next 20 years as you made in your final year. I think companies set this up after the Great Depression, but never took into account what would happen if the company could no longer afford to pay its pensions.

The pensions were money that was suppose to be placed into a safe fund and it was part of their pay. In the 70's changes in corporate law allowed companies to use the pension fund as assets or even borrow from it.

I think it's wrong for corporations to promise a pension and then not deliver because they didn't think it through. It's like telling someone that they're not getting paid for work they already did.
 
Does anybody know when the 9-11 high jackers started taking flying lessons in the USA?
 
Or the reports that emerged in Newsweek, the Washington Post, and the New York Times that at least “five of the alleged hijackers received training in the 1990s at secure US military installations”, including Mohamed Atta who attended International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, Alabama. The US Air Force later argued that they “might not” be the same persons, due to some “biographical discrepancies” – which of course were never revealed to the public. When Senator Bill Nelson tried to investigate, shocked at the possibility that Pensacola Naval Air Station could have hosted and trained Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alghamdi, among others, he was told by the FBI – after several weeks - that they were trying to work through something “complicated and difficult.” Daniel Hopsicker, a former Producer at PBS Wall Street Week and investigative report at NBC News, decided to investigate. After pressing an official at the Defense Department, he was finally told: “I do not have the authority to tell you who attended which schools” – in other words, terrorists did train at secure US military installations, but who trained where is none of our concern. It is difficult to avoid the conclusion that these people were, for reasons undisclosed, protected.

Whitewashing the Protection of Terrorists on US Soil :: The Truth about Able Danger :: (by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed) - Media Monitors Network (MMN)
 
Or the reports that emerged in Newsweek, the Washington Post, and the New York Times that at least “five of the alleged hijackers received training in the 1990s at secure US military installations”, including Mohamed Atta who attended International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, Alabama. The US Air Force later argued that they “might not” be the same persons, due to some “biographical discrepancies” – which of course were never revealed to the public. When Senator Bill Nelson tried to investigate, shocked at the possibility that Pensacola Naval Air Station could have hosted and trained Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alghamdi, among others, he was told by the FBI – after several weeks - that they were trying to work through something “complicated and difficult.” Daniel Hopsicker, a former Producer at PBS Wall Street Week and investigative report at NBC News, decided to investigate. After pressing an official at the Defense Department, he was finally told: “I do not have the authority to tell you who attended which schools” – in other words, terrorists did train at secure US military installations, but who trained where is none of our concern. It is difficult to avoid the conclusion that these people were, for reasons undisclosed, protected.

Whitewashing the Protection of Terrorists on US Soil :: The Truth about Able Danger :: (by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed) - Media Monitors Network (MMN)




and in conclusion it happened on Clinton's watch. That's why he dosen't want to talk about it. and that is why the Gov. made sure the families of the victims got payoff so they would not sue the Federal Gov. Good luck to Silverstein, he will probably win his 2 Billion.
 
Danny Jowenko - Dutch Demolition Expert Still Maintains WTC7 Could NOT Collapse Due to Fire

9/11 Blogger
Thursday, February 22, 2007

Just spotted this GEM over at Pilots For 911 Truth Forum

There have been rumours lately that Danny Jowenko (controlled demolition expert) of http://www.jowenko.nl/ had changed his mind on WTC 7.....

So Jeff of www.PumpItOut.com called him and asked him

Very intersting to say the least (call lasts just over 2 minutes)

Click link below to listen or right click and save target as to download:

Phone call to Danny Jowenko

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMhUTrBODtA&feature=related[/ame]

911 - on WTC7 controlled demolition

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QajDxF9uEf4]YouTube - Phone Call With Danny Jowenko[/ame]
 
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1. A building owner would never be in a position to dictate to fire personnel or emergence workers whether his building should be "pulled" or demolished.

2. We have never, ever heard the term "pull" being used to refer to the explosive demolition of a building, and neither has any blast team we've spoken with. The term is used in conventional demolition circles, to describe the specific activity of attaching long cables to pre-weakened building and maneuvering heavy equipment (excavators, bulldozers, etc.) to "pull" the frame of a structure over onto its side for further dismantlement. The author and our research team were on site when workers pull over the six-story remains of WTC-6 in late fall 2001, however, and we can say with certainty that a similar operation would have been logistically impossible at Ground Zero on 9/11, physically impossible for a building the size of WTC 7, and the structure did not collapse in that manner anyway.

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf
 
site:controlled-demolition.com pull - Google Search

Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release
... on alternate upper floors to help “pull” the northern and eastern walls away from the fiber optics cables in NE Third Avenue and Biscayne Boulevard. ...
Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome
Phase 1 continued to fall, helping to pull Phase 2 in. Phase 2 was detonated several seconds later and collapsed and fell the same as Phase 1. ...
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome
The flexible rebar remained intact, acting like ropes to pull the columns toward the center. Gravity did most of the work. ...
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release
Strategically-placed ¾” cables were placed to pull the structure away from the A -1-A Bridge, adjacent to the west end of the structure, as well as away from ...
Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
 
site:controlled-demolition.com pull - Google Search

Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release
... on alternate upper floors to help “pull” the northern and eastern walls away from the fiber optics cables in NE Third Avenue and Biscayne Boulevard. ...
Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome
Phase 1 continued to fall, helping to pull Phase 2 in. Phase 2 was detonated several seconds later and collapsed and fell the same as Phase 1. ...
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome
The flexible rebar remained intact, acting like ropes to pull the columns toward the center. Gravity did most of the work. ...
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release
Strategically-placed ¾” cables were placed to pull the structure away from the A -1-A Bridge, adjacent to the west end of the structure, as well as away from ...
Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
did any of them use explosives, or a cable?
hmmmm
BTW, the very fist one used the word "pull" as not having anything to do with the actual demolition
if you actually had a functioning Brain you would understand
 
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Your Google search either merely reinforces what ImplosionWorld concluded in their article that "pulling" occurs after demolition or refers to the activities caused by the explosions. Nowhere does it substantiate your claim that Silverstein saying "pull" had anything to do with the building being "pulled" down.

Refer to what Protec said

We have never, ever heard the term "pull" being used to refer to the explosive demolition of a building, and neither has any blast team we've spoken with. The term is used in conventional demolition circles, to describe the specific activity of attaching long cables to pre-weakened building and maneuvering heavy equipment (excavators, bulldozers, etc.) to "pull" the frame of a structure over onto its side for further dismantlement. The author and our research team were on site when workers pull over the six-story remains of WTC-6 in late fall 2001, however, and we can say with certainty that a similar operation would have been logistically impossible at Ground Zero on 9/11, physically impossible for a building the size of WTC 7, and the structure did not collapse in that manner anyway.

Now, onto the quotes provided.

site:controlled-demolition.com pull - Google Search

Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release
... on alternate upper floors to help “pull” the northern and eastern walls away from the fiber optics cables in NE Third Avenue and Biscayne Boulevard. ...

Detonation triggered the "pulling"

Utilizing a total of 137 pounds of linear shaped charges and 50 lbs of dynamite “kicker charges”, CDI worked in only the partial basement to the west, the Lobby Level and 4th floor of the structure. Placed in over 400 locations, the shaped charges were sequentially initiated over a period of 5.4 seconds, working from southwest to northeast through the structure. Following the seemingly endless 2.6 second natural pause in the non-electric initiation system, the structural charges detonated on cue, allowing the southwest wing of the structure to fail first, creating the desired lateral “pull” on the north and east curtain walls.

The article refers to the structured being "pulled" by the force of the explosion.

Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome
Phase 1 continued to fall, helping to pull Phase 2 in. Phase 2 was detonated several seconds later and collapsed and fell the same as Phase 1. ...
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome
The flexible rebar remained intact, acting like ropes to pull the columns toward the center. Gravity did most of the work. ...

Read the steps beforehand.

Step 2

Nonstructural ramps, slabs, and siding were removed to reduce the amount of debris that fell to the ground.

Explosives were placed in the structure at key locations.

Step 3

Demolition of the main structure occurred in two phases of a single implosion sequence. Explosives in the Phase 2 areas were detonated several seconds after Phase 1.

Special material wrapped the structure at the blast points to control the explosion.

Step 4

Small explosions fractured the rigid concrete allowing the structure to buckle and fall. The flexible rebar remained intact, acting like ropes to pull the columns toward the center.

Gravity did most of the work.

Step 5

Phase 1 continued to fall, helping to pull Phase 2 in. Phase 2 was detonated several seconds later and collapsed and fell the same as Phase 1.

More explosions further fractured the concrete into smaller pieces.

In other words, as ImplosionWorld articulates, the "pulling" occurs after the demolition.

Controlled Demolition Incorporated ::: Imploding the Kingdome - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release
Strategically-placed ¾” cables were placed to pull the structure away from the A -1-A Bridge, adjacent to the west end of the structure, as well as away from ...
Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release - 20k - Cached - Similar pages

Notice several interesting points

Environmental remediation and implosion preparation activities commenced in October of 2003. CDI’s project manager spent several weeks on site leading up to the implosion, coordinating Omega’s performance of preparation activities alongside CDI’s in-house drilling crew.

First, notice that the crew spent several weeks on site of a 15-story building. Yet, the 9/11 conspiracists would tell us that a power down over a weekend was sufficient enough to lay detonation around a 110-story building, let alone WTC 7.

Local restrictions prevented delivery of explosives until January 15th, just three (3) days prior to the implosion. Initially, CDI had planned to perform a test shot early that morning to finalize load ratios for selected columns and shear walls. As the final paperwork on the sale of the property from Charles E. Smith to WCI had not yet been finalized, and Charles E. Smith didn’t want any test blasts performed until after they had closed the deal, CDI had to hold off until the property closing was completed. Just after noon, the final "t’s" were crossed and “i’s” were dotted and CDI was permitted to load and test blast four typical interior columns and two (2) shearwalls on the Lobby and 2nd floor of the structure.

They tested four interior columns and two shearwalls. Internal demolition had already begun. No internal testing occurred on WTC 7 though.

Following a review of the test shot results, CDI’s 8-person explosives team went to work full-speed, loading 1,227 holes on seven (7) floors of the structure to maximize fragmentation to accommodate DPC’s/Omegas’ fast-track concrete crushing and debris recycling program.

CDI detonated a total of 475 pounds of explosives over fifteen (15) major delays, taking a total of 7.5 seconds for the complete initiation sequence.

Strategically-placed ¾” cables were placed to pull the structure away from the A-1-A Bridge, adjacent to the west end of the structure, as well as away from the sea wall along Haulover Inlet on the north side of the site.

Thus corroborating ImplosionWorld's argument that pulling occurs after the demolition.
 
I agree bad taste, but what if a plane landed in your house and took it out? Would you not want compensation from the company that took your house out? Now image if your house is worth billions of dollars, in which your insurance company runs to the hills instead of paying?


Insurance companies have already paid this scum 2 billion dollars.

May of 2001 Silverstein secured a 99 yr lease on the World Trade Center Complex.

Silverstein and partners sign over a $100 million letter of credit as a down payment.

July 24, 2001 the lease agreement closes.

Six weeks later on Sept.11, 2001 three of the buildings were demolished.

Six years later Silverstein collects $2 billion.

Silverstein wins 99-year WTC net-lease | Real Estate Weekly | Find Articles at BNET


Let`s see .......... $2 billion minus $100 million letter of credit
Uhhhhh ...... I`m no mathematical genius but I`d say that`s quite a return on your money in 6 weeks.
So, to answer your question .........
YEAH, I think I could go for a plane hitting my house for that little bit of profit !

A Parable

To put these events in perspective, imagine that a person leases an expensive house, and immediately takes out an insurance policy covering the entire value of the house and specifically covering bomb attacks. Six weeks later two bombs go off in the house, separated by an hour. The house burns down, and the lessor immediately sues the insurance company to pay him twice the value of the house, and ultimately wins. The lessor also gets the city to dispose of the wreckage, excavate the site, and help him build a new house on the site.

9-11 Research: Controlling Interests






May 2007
The insurance companies involved in today’s settlement are:

Travelers Companies, Inc.
Zurich American Insurance Company
Swiss Reinsurance Company
Employers Insurance Company of Wausau
Allianz Global Risks US Insurance Company
Industrial Risk Insurers (now owned by Swiss Reinsurance Company)
Royal Indemnity Company

As part of the agreement, Silverstein Properties and the insurance companies have signed confidentiality agreements requiring that specific amounts paid by each company will not be disclosed. The total for all seven companies is $2 billion. These agreements settle all outstanding court cases and related proceedings.

www.ny.gov - STATE ACHIEVES $2 BILLION SETTLEMENT OF OUTSTANDING WORLD TRADE CENTER INSURANCE CLAIMS
 
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