CDZ Labor in the US

[IsaacNewton]

A report from CNN on white laborers in West Virginia coal mining country (and elsewhere in that region I would assume).

West Virginia's 'forgotten tribe'; why the white working class feels left behind - CNNPolitics.com

The man notes in the video that machinery or automation is driving people out of their jobs in the coal industry, this is something I did not know. I am from Pittsburgh, my entire family worked in the steel mills there most of the 20th century as did my friends. But in the early 80's the steel mills all closed down due to cheaper foreign steel (as far as I know that is the reason). We've seen what has happened to Detroit and Flint as the car manufacturers have left those cities and taken those jobs with them.

I'd say none of these states, cities, or areas deserve to be degraded for the decline in standard of living. Without work what is there. I don't think anyone can watch any video like this, which can be directly echoed by people in Detroit, or Pittsburgh, or anywhere else manufacturing has left, and not only feel sympathy for these people but for a way of life. I do understand the sense of loss not only of lively-hood but of identity as part of the nation.

But it isn't something new. Manufacturing has been in decline for 40 years.


Note: Clean Debate Zone. Leave the candidates out, talk about why this is happening and what solutions there might be. Thanks.

 

[Indeependent]

Even if there is something new, it will go to an Illegal or a Business Visa.

 

[Moonglow]

Even if there is something new, it will go to an Illegal or a Business Visa.

The new steel mill they built in NE Arkansas was not an illegal or foreign operation...Jobs were given to us citizens...

 

[Moonglow]

I can get jobs all day long, and I look white..What is you alls problem?

 

[Indeependent]

Even if there is something new, it will go to an Illegal or a Business Visa.

The new steel mill they built in NE Arkansas was not an illegal or foreign operation...Jobs were given to us citizens...

I'm very happy to hear that.
NY sucks.

 

[Moonglow]

A report from CNN on white laborers in West Virginia coal mining country (and elsewhere in that region I would assume).

West Virginia's 'forgotten tribe'; why the white working class feels left behind - CNNPolitics.com

The man notes in the video that machinery or automation is driving people out of their jobs in the coal industry, this is something I did not know. I am from Pittsburgh, my entire family worked in the steel mills there most of the 20th century as did my friends. But in the early 80's the steel mills all closed down due to cheaper foreign steel (as far as I know that is the reason). We've seen what has happened to Detroit and Flint as the car manufacturers have left those cities and taken those jobs with them.

I'd say none of these states, cities, or areas deserve to be degraded for the decline in standard of living. Without work what is there. I don't think anyone can watch any video like this, which can be directly echoed by people in Detroit, or Pittsburgh, or anywhere else manufacturing has left, and not only feel sympathy for these people but for our a of life. I do understand the sense of loss not only of lively-hood but of identity as part of the nation.

But it isn't something new. Manufacturing has been in decline for 40 years.


Note: Clean Debate Zone. Leave the candidates out, talk about why this is happening and what solutions there might be. Thanks.

It is a natural occurrence in industrial nations of the past, like Britain, especially when political philosophy of free trade was implemented...It sounds nice, but humans are not peaceful and they view business as war...

 

[Moonglow]

Even if there is something new, it will go to an Illegal or a Business Visa.

The new steel mill they built in NE Arkansas was not an illegal or foreign operation...Jobs were given to us citizens...

I'm very happy to hear that.
NY sucks.

I was in NYC last year at this time, seemed like a lot of folks were working..In NW Arkansas the UE is 3%. It's hot down here...

 

[Moonglow]

The US is experiencing reverse mercantilism/colonialism..Look at the clear signs...Manufacturing moves for profit and causes the motherland to be the consumer based economy, influx of foreigners in large uncontrolled waves..Socialistic-capitalism, where the taxpayers actually help support capitalistic entities......

 

[Nosmo King]

I live in the Pittsburgh area, about thirty five miles away. The problem with bringing steel jobs back is lack of infrastructure. After the mills closed, the equipment was created up and shipped to Asia and Latin America. Then the mills themselves were torn down.

As for manufacturing, we have a few commercial potteries here and we are developing refineries because of the Marcellus shale natural gas fields.

 

[Moonglow]

I live in the Pittsburgh area, about thirty five miles away. The problem with bringing steel jobs back is lack of infrastructure. After the mills closed, the equipment was created up and shipped to Asia and Latin America. Then the mills themselves were torn down.

As for manufacturing, we have a few commercial potteries here and we are developing refineries because of the Marcellus shale natural gas fields.

We are screwed when it comes to another world war...

 

[Indeependent]

Even if there is something new, it will go to an Illegal or a Business Visa.

The new steel mill they built in NE Arkansas was not an illegal or foreign operation...Jobs were given to us citizens...

I'm very happy to hear that.
NY sucks.

I was in NYC last year at this time, seemed like a lot of folks were working..In NW Arkansas the UE is 3%. It's hot down here...

There's a massive amount of construction going on.
My son-in-law is in Commercial & Industrial Property Acquisitions and he says most of the work in NYC, Miami and Houston is being done by Mexicans.

 

[Moonglow]

Even if there is something new, it will go to an Illegal or a Business Visa.

The new steel mill they built in NE Arkansas was not an illegal or foreign operation...Jobs were given to us citizens...

I'm very happy to hear that.
NY sucks.

I was in NYC last year at this time, seemed like a lot of folks were working..In NW Arkansas the UE is 3%. It's hot down here...

There's a massive amount of construction going on.
My son-in-law is in Commercial & Industrial Property Acquisitions and he says most of the work in NYC, Miami and Houston is being done by Mexicans.

Why did white folks stop working there?

 

[Indeependent]

Even if there is something new, it will go to an Illegal or a Business Visa.

The new steel mill they built in NE Arkansas was not an illegal or foreign operation...Jobs were given to us citizens...

I'm very happy to hear that.
NY sucks.

I was in NYC last year at this time, seemed like a lot of folks were working..In NW Arkansas the UE is 3%. It's hot down here...

There's a massive amount of construction going on.
My son-in-law is in Commercial & Industrial Property Acquisitions and he says most of the work in NYC, Miami and Houston is being done by Mexicans.

Why did white folks stop working there?

He says US citizens are at least 3 times more expensive.
A lot of people won't invest in commercial real estate beyond a certain cost.
At least while they have the option of Illegals.

 

[Moonglow]

The new steel mill they built in NE Arkansas was not an illegal or foreign operation...Jobs were given to us citizens...

I'm very happy to hear that.
NY sucks.

I was in NYC last year at this time, seemed like a lot of folks were working..In NW Arkansas the UE is 3%. It's hot down here...

There's a massive amount of construction going on.
My son-in-law is in Commercial & Industrial Property Acquisitions and he says most of the work in NYC, Miami and Houston is being done by Mexicans.

Why did white folks stop working there?

He says US citizens are at least 3 times more expensive.
A lot of people won't invest in commercial real estate beyond a certain cost.
At least while they have the option of Illegals.

They tried playing that shit in NW Arkansas, but after the recession and many lawsuits and some builders going to jail or the poor house over using illegal labor and substandard construction procedures...The white is back in NW Arkanass, especially the license required end..I work and hire only legals, veterans preferred,, along with married folks..

 

[Indeependent]

I'm very happy to hear that.
NY sucks.

I was in NYC last year at this time, seemed like a lot of folks were working..In NW Arkansas the UE is 3%. It's hot down here...

There's a massive amount of construction going on.
My son-in-law is in Commercial & Industrial Property Acquisitions and he says most of the work in NYC, Miami and Houston is being done by Mexicans.

Why did white folks stop working there?

He says US citizens are at least 3 times more expensive.
A lot of people won't invest in commercial real estate beyond a certain cost.
At least while they have the option of Illegals.

They tried playing that shit in NW Arkansas, but after the recession and many lawsuits and some builders going to jail or the poor house over using illegal labor and substandard construction procedures...The white is back in NW Arkanass, especially the license required end..I work and hire only legals, veterans preferred,, along with married folks..

NYC had the great Neo-Con Michael Bloomberg who told the unions who threatened to sue him that he had far more money than the union and would bog them down in court for decades.
I know a lot of union guys who are doing very small residential projects.
Even Nassau County uses contractors who get paid to use union guys but actually use Illegals.
But the contractors give kickbacks.

 

[Moonglow]

I was in NYC last year at this time, seemed like a lot of folks were working..In NW Arkansas the UE is 3%. It's hot down here...

There's a massive amount of construction going on.
My son-in-law is in Commercial & Industrial Property Acquisitions and he says most of the work in NYC, Miami and Houston is being done by Mexicans.

Why did white folks stop working there?

He says US citizens are at least 3 times more expensive.
A lot of people won't invest in commercial real estate beyond a certain cost.
At least while they have the option of Illegals.

They tried playing that shit in NW Arkansas, but after the recession and many lawsuits and some builders going to jail or the poor house over using illegal labor and substandard construction procedures...The white is back in NW Arkanass, especially the license required end..I work and hire only legals, veterans preferred,, along with married folks..

NYC had the great Neo-Con Michael Bloomberg who told the unions who threatened to sue him that he had far more money than the union and would bog them down in court for decades.
I know a lot of union guys who are doing very small residential projects.
Even Nassau County uses contractors who get paid to use union guys but actually use Illegals.
But the contractors give kickbacks.

I never figured I needed to pay someone else to get me a masonry job...

 

[Indeependent]

There's a massive amount of construction going on.
My son-in-law is in Commercial & Industrial Property Acquisitions and he says most of the work in NYC, Miami and Houston is being done by Mexicans.

Why did white folks stop working there?

He says US citizens are at least 3 times more expensive.
A lot of people won't invest in commercial real estate beyond a certain cost.
At least while they have the option of Illegals.

They tried playing that shit in NW Arkansas, but after the recession and many lawsuits and some builders going to jail or the poor house over using illegal labor and substandard construction procedures...The white is back in NW Arkanass, especially the license required end..I work and hire only legals, veterans preferred,, along with married folks..

NYC had the great Neo-Con Michael Bloomberg who told the unions who threatened to sue him that he had far more money than the union and would bog them down in court for decades.
I know a lot of union guys who are doing very small residential projects.
Even Nassau County uses contractors who get paid to use union guys but actually use Illegals.
But the contractors give kickbacks.

I never figured I needed to pay someone else to get me a masonry job...

In Nassau County and the Town of Hempstead you have to at least to buy tables when they have dinners for candidates.
And they tend to have a LOT of dinners.
Usually runs about $2000.00 a table...10 seats.
Figure about 10 dinners.
Fucking corrupt as all hell.

 

[Moonglow]

Why did white folks stop working there?

He says US citizens are at least 3 times more expensive.
A lot of people won't invest in commercial real estate beyond a certain cost.
At least while they have the option of Illegals.

They tried playing that shit in NW Arkansas, but after the recession and many lawsuits and some builders going to jail or the poor house over using illegal labor and substandard construction procedures...The white is back in NW Arkanass, especially the license required end..I work and hire only legals, veterans preferred,, along with married folks..

NYC had the great Neo-Con Michael Bloomberg who told the unions who threatened to sue him that he had far more money than the union and would bog them down in court for decades.
I know a lot of union guys who are doing very small residential projects.
Even Nassau County uses contractors who get paid to use union guys but actually use Illegals.
But the contractors give kickbacks.

I never figured I needed to pay someone else to get me a masonry job...

In Nassau County and the Town of Hempstead you have to at least to buy tables when they have dinners for candidates.
And they tend to have a LOT of dinners.
Usually runs about $2000.00 a table...10 seats.
Figure about 10 dinners.
Fucking corrupt as all hell.

The idea of a union is okay, but they let it go to their head...

 

[Indeependent]

He says US citizens are at least 3 times more expensive.
A lot of people won't invest in commercial real estate beyond a certain cost.
At least while they have the option of Illegals.

They tried playing that shit in NW Arkansas, but after the recession and many lawsuits and some builders going to jail or the poor house over using illegal labor and substandard construction procedures...The white is back in NW Arkanass, especially the license required end..I work and hire only legals, veterans preferred,, along with married folks..

NYC had the great Neo-Con Michael Bloomberg who told the unions who threatened to sue him that he had far more money than the union and would bog them down in court for decades.
I know a lot of union guys who are doing very small residential projects.
Even Nassau County uses contractors who get paid to use union guys but actually use Illegals.
But the contractors give kickbacks.

I never figured I needed to pay someone else to get me a masonry job...

In Nassau County and the Town of Hempstead you have to at least to buy tables when they have dinners for candidates.
And they tend to have a LOT of dinners.
Usually runs about $2000.00 a table...10 seats.
Figure about 10 dinners.
Fucking corrupt as all hell.

The idea of a union is okay, but they let it go to their head...

Both sides got way too carried away.
They also let it go to their waistlines.

 

[Moonglow]

They tried playing that shit in NW Arkansas, but after the recession and many lawsuits and some builders going to jail or the poor house over using illegal labor and substandard construction procedures...The white is back in NW Arkanass, especially the license required end..I work and hire only legals, veterans preferred,, along with married folks..

NYC had the great Neo-Con Michael Bloomberg who told the unions who threatened to sue him that he had far more money than the union and would bog them down in court for decades.
I know a lot of union guys who are doing very small residential projects.
Even Nassau County uses contractors who get paid to use union guys but actually use Illegals.
But the contractors give kickbacks.

I never figured I needed to pay someone else to get me a masonry job...

In Nassau County and the Town of Hempstead you have to at least to buy tables when they have dinners for candidates.
And they tend to have a LOT of dinners.
Usually runs about $2000.00 a table...10 seats.
Figure about 10 dinners.
Fucking corrupt as all hell.

The idea of a union is okay, but they let it go to their head...

Both sides got way too carried away.
They also let it go to their waistlines.

Down here in a right to work state we work for a lot less than them thar folks in NY...So our waistlines are big from over working ourselves...