Kyle Rittenhouse trial...already disproving SO MANY LIES from the left

[Cecilie1200]

He ran away from the confrontation after he put himself in the confrontation. That's not what I meant.

And in what way did he "put himself in the confrontation"? You mean by daring to be in a city that thugs wanted to destroy? By trying to limit property damage? By offering medical assistance to people who needed it? What was the confrontational thing Kyle did that you object to?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And what criteria does he not meet?

Well......instead of going over this repeatedly, jump back to page 27 post number 536 when I explain it all. It should answer any question you have about my stance.

 

[Cecilie1200]

He put himself someplace where he might be harmed.
Under WI law, that negates his right to self-defense?
Can you cite the section and the text to that effect?

By that definition, I deserve to be mugged without recourse to defend myself every time I deliver UberEats in Maryvale at night, I guess, because I'm certainly putting myself someplace I might conceivably be harmed. It's a shitty neighborhood with bad street lights.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And in what way did he "put himself in the confrontation"? You mean by daring to be in a city that thugs wanted to destroy? By trying to limit property damage? By offering medical assistance to people who needed it? What was the confrontational thing Kyle did that you object to?

This is the simple philosophy of action/ reaction. In almost all cases, when we take an action with another person, it's going to cause a reaction.

A man is in the park painting a scene of the beautiful woods. I walk up to him with a spray paint can and spray it all over his art. What do you suppose his reaction would be?

These lowlifes were trying to destroy that city, and this midget is running around cleaning up their graffiti, putting out their fires, acting like a police officer to protect property he had no connection with. What do you suppose their reaction was going to be? As for offering medical assistance, he had no training in that. He was running around in the middle of a riot to put band-aids on people? Ridiculous.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And I respect you as well, but we either are going to follow our laws or we are not, we can't pick and choose which laws we want to follow in a civilized society. Such as if you are being mugged while I'm passing you, the law gives me legal rights to use my firearm to stop that mugger. The law reads that a CCW holder can use deadly force if they believe they (or others) are in jeopardy of serious bodily harm or death.

I'm sorry, but our laws do not require us to ignore crimes being committed and people being harmed in front of us, particularly when the civil authority has manifestly broken down and become incapable of enforcing the law itself. Just as the law gives you legal rights to protect and defend me if you see me being mugged, so the law also gives citizens like Kyle the right to protect and defend others being harmed. I'd like to know where this dividing line is that you think you see between a woman being mugged and a neighborhood being burned and looted. And don't tell me you don't, because you keep saying that the correct thing for Kyle to do that night was to go home and leave the city to the criminals. If you don't think the correct thing to do is to walk away and leave me to the nonexistent mercies of a criminal, then there must be some difference in your mind.

 

[Cecilie1200]

But that's irrelevant to my point. My point is he never used the opportunity to not be in that position in the first place as the law requires. If you are armed in public, as soon as you see trouble, get the hell away from it, not involve yourself in it and then claim self-defense.

As the evidence showed, he DID try to get away from it. But it seems like what you're saying is that you think Kyle - and, presumably, every other law-abiding person in Kenosha - should have said, "Oh, you folks want to smash these cars and burn these buildings and blow up these gas stations? Gosh, I guess we'd better leave and let you get to it."

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well......instead of going over this repeatedly, jump back to page 27 post number 536 when I explain it all. It should answer any question you have about my stance.

You haven't gone over it repeatedly with me. This is the first time I've asked you. I will now assume that you have no answer to the question.

 

[eagle1462010]

This is the simple philosophy of action/ reaction. In almost all cases, when we take an action with another person, it's going to cause a reaction.

A man is in the park painting a scene of the beautiful woods. I walk up to him with a spray paint can and spray it all over his art. What do you suppose his reaction would be?

These lowlifes were trying to destroy that city, and this midget is running around cleaning up their graffiti, putting out their fires, acting like a police officer to protect property he had no connection with. What do you suppose their reaction was going to be? As for offering medical assistance, he had no training in that. He was running around in the middle of a riot to put band-aids on people? Ridiculous.

So only rioters have a right to be out in this country now...........hmmm

This is supposed to be a Free country. ...........who are they to decide WHO IS ALLOWED TO BE IN PUBLIC.......Counter Protests happen all the time...........and there is violence in counter protests all the time.

So should the other side just get on their knees and say pretty please can I walk on this public sidewalk.

He had every right to be in public ..........Just as much right as them

They burned and got mad when he tried to stop their thuggery. They were going to KILL KYLE and you know it.

He stopped that. Would you rather have Kyle dead...........because had he dropped that gun he'd be dead.

He is innocent.

 

[progressive hunter]

When he seen trouble going on, he addressed it instead of moving away from it as the law requires in order to use deadly force as a self-defense claim.

what law requires you to move away from trouble??

and that trouble was chasing him and he was running away,,

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is the simple philosophy of action/ reaction. In almost all cases, when we take an action with another person, it's going to cause a reaction.

A man is in the park painting a scene of the beautiful woods. I walk up to him with a spray paint can and spray it all over his art. What do you suppose his reaction would be?

These lowlifes were trying to destroy that city, and this midget is running around cleaning up their graffiti, putting out their fires, acting like a police officer to protect property he had no connection with. What do you suppose their reaction was going to be? As for offering medical assistance, he had no training in that. He was running around in the middle of a riot to put band-aids on people? Ridiculous.

Ah, so you DO think he - and, by extension, other law-abiding folks - should simply abandon their communities to thugs whenever said garbage decides to get violent and destructive.

I dispute your idea that he "had no connection" to the property. While he didn't live in Kenosha, he lived very close and he worked there and he knew those people. He was part of that community. I don't think I would want to live in a neighborhood where everyone thought like you.

On a side note, I believe he does have some training in first aid, which is rather more than "putting band-aids on people". Hell, I got enough first aid training to be useful in that situation simply to work in the reception area of a doctor's office. It's not exactly difficult to get.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The fact 3 different people who were there found the rifle held by Rittenhouse to be offensive, proves I am right.
There is no theory involved.

I find you offensive, does that give me the right to beat or shoot you?

 

[Cecilie1200]

That's like saying telling a woman who has been raped that she should have been better clothed and less sexually appealing.

Lame, bruh. Knock it off.

Or not gone to that neighborhood.

 

[Cecilie1200]

That one made me chuckle. I know I shouldn't have.

You absolutely SHOULD chuckle when I smack a leftist down. I'm fucking hilarious.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Well......instead of going over this repeatedly, jump back to page 27 post number 536 when I explain it all. It should answer any question you have about my stance.

You have to ask yourself:
Why didn't the prosecution bring this up?

 

[Cecilie1200]

That was my thought as well. At least his reasoning is informed.

And he actually makes an argument for his case, and listens thoughtfully to the case from his opponent before making a counterpoint that relates to what the person said. It's almost unheard-of on this board.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

There is nothing wrong with a memorial guard being armed, because he is stationary and clearly defending private property.
He is not trying to intimidate or provoke like Rittenhouse was.

Umm, he’s there armed with a rifle defending property by intimidating people to not attack it. Why should this be acceptable for a pile of flowers for a criminal but protecting a business isn’t?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Wrong.
Only one of the 3 shot had a gun, and it is likely he was never going to pull the trigger on that even.
Rittenhouse was chased AFTER he started shooting and made himself a deadly threat.

He was chased first. WTF are you talking about?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

How is he dead wrong?
I am far left, but no one has ever openly brought a rifle to a demonstration, riot, etc., that I have EVER seen.
When we were demonstration against Vietnam, for Civil Rights, etc., anyone with a visible weapon would have been immediately shot and killed by the police,
And rightly so.
Carrying a rifle like Kyle did, was an imminent threat that no one should allowed.
The police who failed to arrest Kyle before the shooting, should be fired.

The protesters in Seattle had their own little police force patrolling the zone with weapons. At least one guy brought rifles and weapons to the CHAZ in Seattle. He showed up with AR style weapons in the trunk of his car and handed them out.

‘Warlord’ of Seattle’s lawless zone hands out guns from his Tesla

 

[Cecilie1200]

I can't believe that they put Grosskreutz on the Today show...he was obviously angry at Kyle but today we seen footage from a new angle how Grosskreutz was definitely trying to kill Kyle with no other justification other than Kyle was on the ground and defenseless from being attacked by the kicks and skateboard.

Grosskreutz himself has an extensive criminal history and admitted to three felonies while on the witness stand.

Did you hear Grosskreutz on the stand, talking about, "My arm being vaporized?" Is he expecting anyone to feel sympathy for his outrage at being shot in the process of trying to kill someone?

 

[Cecilie1200]

True a punk ass killer set free Hopefully he doesn't have long

If you're fantasizing about sacking up and trying to go after him, you might want to take a look at the videos of what happened to the last ignorant dirtbags who tried that.