Kyle Rittenhouse trial...already disproving SO MANY LIES from the left

Having a lethal weapon does not necessarily make someone a lethal threat, or else Rittenhouse was a lethal threat, since he was armed.
Violently taking a lethal weapon from another gives the other the right to assume the one violently taking it will use it to kill them.
And that is the point, in that Rittenhouse's actions were extremely provocative, bringing a rifle, so then he no longer has ANY recourse to self defense.
It would have been legal for anyone to shot him on sight.
The mere possession of a firearm is not provocative.
I have firearm training, not only as a member of organizations, but also from CCW permit testing.

You are at a contradiction.
If you can kill over reaching towards a weapon, then you can kill over holding a weapon.
Are you familiar with the 21-foot rule?

Have no ever had training surrounding another person taking your weapon from you?
 
Wrong.

Illegally possessing a weapon does not negate your right to self defense even with that weapon.

FOr example you steal a gun and run away then someone else unrelated to the theft tries to kill you. You can still get charged with illegally taking the gun but it is still self defense if you use it to shoot them.

Wilson legally shot Brown. Yes there were differences but one key element is that attempting to take a persons weapon is a threat on their life and you shoot until the threat is down

Yes the crime does negate self defense.
You can not claim self defense when in commission of a crime.
I am not referring to the technicality of Rittenhouse being too young.
I am referring to the obvious crime of openly carrying a rifle to a demonstration.
That is a clear and obvious threat the is so provocative that no one could tolerate.
It is much worse than equivalent to "fighting words".

Wilson was taller then Brown, so there should have been no perception of Brown as any sort of threat.
In reality the reason Brown likely turned around is that his flip flops fell off and he could not keep running away on the hot asphalt.
He likely was surrendering when murdered.

And no, you do not ever have the right to shoot at a threat that does not yet have a weapon, nor is it never legal to keep shooting.
The police are totally trained wrong and act illegally all the time.
 
He had every right to be there you twat. The assholes trying to burn the place down, DIDN'T
He did not have the right to act as police. Let that have been a ne nazi protest and blacks come armed talking about they are there to support the poice and you would have seen people arrested.
 
Yes the crime does negate self defense.
YOU

ARE

WRONG!!!!!


939.48  Self-defense and defense of others.

(1)  A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.
(1m) 
(a) In this subsection:
1. “Dwelling" has the meaning given in s. 895.07 (1) (h).
2. “Place of business" means a business that the actor owns or operates.
(ar) If an actor intentionally used force that was intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm, the court may not consider whether the actor had an opportunity to flee or retreat before he or she used force and shall presume that the actor reasonably believed that the force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself if the actor makes such a claim under sub. (1) and either of the following applies:
1. The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.
2. The person against whom the force was used was in the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business after unlawfully and forcibly entering it, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that the person had unlawfully and forcibly entered the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business.
(b) The presumption described in par. (ar) does not apply if any of the following applies:
1. The actor was engaged in a criminal activity or was using his or her dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business to further a criminal activity at the time.
2. The person against whom the force was used was a public safety worker, as defined in s. 941.375 (1) (b), who entered or attempted to enter the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business in the performance of his or her official duties. This subdivision applies only if at least one of the following applies:
a. The public safety worker identified himself or herself to the actor before the force described in par. (ar) was used by the actor.
b. The actor knew or reasonably should have known that the person entering or attempting to enter his or her dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business was a public safety worker.
(2) Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows:
(a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.
(b) The privilege lost by provocation may be regained if the actor in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice thereof to his or her assailant.

(c) A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to use such an attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense.
(3) The privilege of self-defense extends not only to the intentional infliction of harm upon a real or apparent wrongdoer, but also to the unintended infliction of harm upon a 3rd person, except that if the unintended infliction of harm amounts to the crime of first-degree or 2nd-degree reckless homicide, homicide by negligent handling of dangerous weapon, explosives or fire, first-degree or 2nd-degree reckless injury or injury by negligent handling of dangerous weapon, explosives or fire, the actor is liable for whichever one of those crimes is committed.
(4) A person is privileged to defend a 3rd person from real or apparent unlawful interference by another under the same conditions and by the same means as those under and by which the person is privileged to defend himself or herself from real or apparent unlawful interference, provided that the person reasonably believes that the facts are such that the 3rd person would be privileged to act in self-defense and that the person's intervention is necessary for the protection of the 3rd person.
(5) A person is privileged to use force against another if the person reasonably believes that to use such force is necessary to prevent such person from committing suicide, but this privilege does not extend to the intentional use of force intended or likely to cause death.
(6) In this section “unlawful" means either tortious or expressly prohibited by criminal law or both.
 
I am referring to the obvious crime of openly carrying a rifle to a demonstration. That is a clear and obvious threat the is so provocative that no one could tolerate. It is much worse than equivalent to "fighting words".
Open carry of a rifle in Wisconsin is perfectly legal.

The mere possession of a firearm is NOT A PROVOCATION.
 
Violently taking a lethal weapon from another gives the other the right to assume the one violently taking it will use it to kill them.

The mere possession of a firearm is not provocative.

Are you familiar with the 21-foot rule?

Have no ever had training surrounding another person taking your weapon from you?

Yes I am familiar with the 21 foot rule, and it is totally wrong.
It is based on the time it takes to unholster and take the safety off.
It also ignores how one can easily use the other arm defensively while bringing your weapon to bear in the other hand.
The 21 foot rules is totally unrealistic and illegal in my opinion.

We practice that all the time for fun, and it is easy to defend yourself even if much closer than 21'.
 
Yes the crime does negate self defense.
You can not claim self defense when in commission of a crime.
I am not referring to the technicality of Rittenhouse being too young.
I am referring to the obvious crime of openly carrying a rifle to a demonstration.
That is a clear and obvious threat the is so provocative that no one could tolerate.
It is much worse than equivalent to "fighting words".

Wilson was taller then Brown, so there should have been no perception of Brown as any sort of threat.
In reality the reason Brown likely turned around is that his flip flops fell off and he could not keep running away on the hot asphalt.
He likely was surrendering when murdered.

And no, you do not ever have the right to shoot at a threat that does not yet have a weapon, nor is it never legal to keep shooting.
The police are totally trained wrong and act illegally all the time.
why do you never support your claims with a link to the laws you are quoting??
 
When you are fearing for your life, no amount of force is "excessive."
Remember that when you're showing videos of blacks committng violence against wites. Given the history of this country we are in fear for our lives any time we are in the presence of whites.
 
Yes the crime does negate self defense.
You can not claim self defense when in commission of a crime.
I am not referring to the technicality of Rittenhouse being too young.
I am referring to the obvious crime of openly carrying a rifle to a demonstration.
That is a clear and obvious threat the is so provocative that no one could tolerate.
It is much worse than equivalent to "fighting words".

Wilson was taller then Brown, so there should have been no perception of Brown as any sort of threat.
In reality the reason Brown likely turned around is that his flip flops fell off and he could not keep running away on the hot asphalt.
He likely was surrendering when murdered.

And no, you do not ever have the right to shoot at a threat that does not yet have a weapon, nor is it never legal to keep shooting.
The police are totally trained wrong and act illegally all the time.
No it does not and no one saiud when in the commision of but afterwards.

It was not a demonstration it was a riot and carrying a gun there does not negate the right to self defense and in fact that has been proven under law posted by others for you to read.

Otheres were carrying and firing guns as well so no it is not provocative enough to justify attacking Rittenhouse with lethal intent.

Wilson was not taller thasn Brown which is irrelevant. Threats are not strictly defined by size but also by action and Brown through his actiosn proved himself a lethal threat. He was not surrendering when he was shot and that is proven.

Yes it is sometimes legal to shoot at unarmed threats particularly if they attempt to take your weapon by force which Rosenbaum did.

Yes it is legal to keep shooting until the threat is down and no they are not trained illegally. Your ignorant opinion on this subject is not the law. You are indeed MASSIVELY ignorant which prove by ludicrous claims abou warning shots which are never reasonable or legal
 
Remember that when you're showing videos of blacks committng violence against wites. Given the history of this country we are in fear for our lives any time we are in the presence of whites.
You do not speak for others and most are perfectly comfortable around others.
 
He did not have the right to act as police. Let that have been a ne nazi protest and blacks come armed talking about they are there to support the poice and you would have seen people arrested.
HE did however have the right to self defense.
 
(2) Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows:
(a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.
(b) The privilege lost by provocation may be regained if the actor in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice thereof to his or her assailant.

(c) A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to use such an attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense.

Thanks for doing my work for me.
This proves that Rittenhouse is unable to use a self defense claim.
Rittenhouse was engaged in an extremely provocative act.
 
Thanks for doing my work for me.
This proves that Rittenhouse is unable to use a self defense claim.
Rittenhouse was engaged in an extremely provocative act.
It proves the opposite that he made a good faith effort to run away and escape as the law reruires therefore regaining the right to self defense.

You ignored that part and lost
 
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