Kyle Rittenhouse should be awarded a congressional medal...

[Correll]

Dominick Black, 19, of Racine, appeared Tuesday at his arraignment on two counts of providing a dangerous weapon to someone under 18, resulting in death, filed back in early November. Conviction on each count can bring a sentence of three years in prison plus three years of supervision.

This can expand to federal charges, including false statement

Black lied on his form 4473

The state and the feds can then go after Rittenhouse for conspiracy to commit a felony.

This is why gun laws, even ones that sound reasonable, are bad ideas. Cause assholes like this, will use them to go after good people who are just standing up to tyranny.

 

[bodecea]

What about the officer who took on the crowds ire in order to lead them away from Vice President Pence?

I'm sure the whitey righties think he deserves death threats.

 

[Correll]

I'm sure the whitey righties think he deserves death threats.

Whitey? Kind of racist of you.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Check the following out flashing on Facebook. Wow, the "legal" person who wrote it doesn't even offer their name. It's so full of holes & strictly a piece of left propaganda. Never mind the details are made up, I think my favorite part is when the "author" starts off with you can't claim self-defense if you're packing an illegal weapon............COUGH!................So right off the bat I knew it's a lie. I'll bet if left news gets hold of it they'll sing its praises.

From a military legal worker:
I'm seeing a lot of ignorance and misinformation flying around about what happened in Kenosha, and I'm going to set the record straight from a professional legal position... as well as from a former military position. I'm going to explain some things from a more technical angle derived from my many years as a paralegal and from my experience working in federal criminal justice and prosecution.

Legally, if you are in the process of a commission of a crime, it negates your ability to claim self defense if you kill someone. As in, it can't even be entered as your official defense in court. It is similar to getting rear-ended at a red light through zero fault of your own, but you were driving without a license or insurance. It automatically makes you at fault because you weren't even legally allowed to be driving.
That 17 year old in Kenosha had committed two crimes and was not even legally allowed to open carry the rifle he used to shoot three people. This means that he legally cannot claim self defense.

Another key discussion is the Castle Doctrine. Some of you may be vaguely familiar with it, as it is what allows you to use deadly force when someone comes into your house unlawfully, etc. But there are some finer points most people don't realize that you generally have to do some formal legal studies to know.

First, as soon as someone sets foot inside the threshold of your home uninvited that you believe intends to commit a crime, you can legally use deadly force and it is immediately considered self defense, even if they haven't made any violent threats or actions towards harming you.
This is because in every instance outside your home, you are required to retreat and extricate yourself from a dangerous situation if possible. It is a legal mandate, not a suggestion. Your home is considered the final retreat point, and legally you should be safe in your "Castle." There is nowhere else to retreat to, etc. This is why you are able to immediately use deadly force.

However, it is NOT to protect your property, it is for protecting your LIFE. And once the burglar, for instance, has left your home... the threat to your life is considered neutralized, and deadly force is no longer authorized. So if a burglar runs out the door and down the street with your TV, you are no longer allowed to shoot after them because they are not threatening your life. You call the police, you file a claim with your insurance, and you get a new TV. If you shoot a burglar in the back down the street, you can and should be charged with murder.
While you are out in PUBLIC, this means a lot of things obviously. It means that there is far more scrutiny and boxes that must be checked in order to claim self defense. You must be in IMMINENT danger of losing life and limb. Getting into an argument and feeling scared of being punched by an unarmed person? Not likely to be a situation where deadly force is authorized. You MUST retreat.

If someone shoots at you or pulls a knife on you in the street, that is deadly force and can be met with deadly force. But if the person is unarmed, you cannot shoot them because you're afraid of a little scuffle. That is why Rittenhouse illegally shot the first protester, and it is one of the many reasons it cannot be considered self defense. The man threw a plastic bag with trash in it at him AND MISSED, and Rittenhouse shot him. He chased his victim and instigated a fight by brandishing and flagging people with his rifle, because he is an untrained idiot with a gun. The protester was not a threat, and even if he was, all he had to do was retreat back to the police line. He rushed at protesters with a gun drawn to pick a fight, and people are acting as if he were just there to keep the peace.

He fired INTO A CROWD, and it's a miracle he didn't hit more people. More people that hadn't thrown a plastic bag. More people that were just trying to protest police brutality, which is a real issue in this country.

And then when he did finally run away, some more protesters attempted to subdue him after he had already murdered someone, he tripped, and shot two people trying to stop him from shooting others.

The fact that the police didn't arrest him and take him into custody right then and there, even if they suspected it could be self defense, is a grave issue with that police department.

I could further dissect this situation, but for now I'm going to end with people passing around misinformation about the victims being "criminals so they deserved it."

First, there are no actual records of Jacob Blake or the people shot by Rittenhouse being in the official sex offender's registry. None of them raped a 14 year old girl years ago, that is complete fabrication being purposely spread by right wing extremist sites in order to try and justify the shootings.

Jacob Blake was indeed awaiting trial for sexual assault and trespassing, and did have a warrant for his arrest. It was not assault on a child, because that is a different charge with a different title. On the charging document, it would literally say that it was against a child. From what is publicly known, he allegedly broke into an ex girlfriend's house and allegedly assaulted HER, but he is innocent until proven guilty, and still deserves his day in court. He could truly be innocent.

Rittenhouse's victims do not appear to have had any record, and even if they did, he couldn't have known that at the time. You cannot insist a shoot was justified AFTER the fact because "that person was a criminal." Criminals have rights too, whether you like it or not, and it is enshrined in the very documents that built our country. If you don't like the constitution and bill of rights, I don't know what to tell you.

This is also not MY OPINION, this is literally how the criminal justice system and our laws work. I hold a degree in paralegal studies and served 8 years as an Army paralegal. I've worked for the criminal division in the Chicago US Attorney's Office, and currently work in federal law enforcement. This is what I do for a living, and I am not pulling this out of my ass, and my knowlege is a culmination of working in the field and being passionate about justice for 16 years. I'd be happy to send you sources and opines and case law and statutes if you need it. I did not get this from "mainstream media," and I am not brainwashed by the left. I'm an independent progressive.

May he face justice for what he did, and may we find a way to get on common ground before more fuses to this powder keg are lit.
This has been my Ted Talk.

So in other words, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. This is NOT a military case.

 

[meaner gene]

Hey dude! Wake up!

You're dreaming.

Are those going to be your famous last words?
Domick Black already admitted who he transferred the weapon to, and confessed he did it while Rittenhouse was still 17, which is a felony.

 

[meaner gene]

When is a straw weapons purchase a felony? | Darryl A. Goldberg

Purchasing weapons for people who are not authorized to own them can have dangerous consequences. Currently, a Chicago woman faces charges related to purchasing guns for people not permitted to have them, and prosecutions are happening at the federal level all over the country. The idea behind...

www.goldbergdefense.com

Purchasing firearms to give or sell to unauthorized persons is a felony both in Illinois and on the federal level.

It is not just “straw purchasers” who have to worry; giving inaccurate or misleading information when you complete the background check and ATF paperwork for the purchase is also a crime.

 

[White 6]

They were trying to disarm the idiot.

They weren't Killers like he is.

I can't believe the idiots on this board trying to re-litigate the Rittenhouse trial, arguing right or wrong, guilty or innocent. Once the verdict is in, by a jury of 12, your sensibilities of right and wrong don't matter worth a damn in America. If anybody is still butt hurt, they can go get some Prep H and seek relief, while the rest of us will settle for the law and what a jury of his (peers) or in his case a jury of adults of different backgrounds, sex and ethnicity, that sat through the whole trial and every single detail, as well as the argument by the defense, prosecutions and the pronouncements of a judge in good standing of the state where the trial was held.

 

[B. Kidd]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene has advanced such legislation and I shall be raising hell with my congress critter if he doesn't co-sponsor it.

Kyle Rittenhouse is one of those unique Americans that stands up against insanity, criminals and walks into chaos in order to establish order.

It's a historic trial!
Especially when you consider what we might be facing soon ahead.

 

[Stann]

Rosenbaum stated that he would kill any member of the group, that he caught alone.

This is totally unfair you keep condemning the dead, who cannot defend themselves. The judge wouldn't allow any derogatory information against this child in the courtroom. If you hacked into this kid's online history you'd see that he is a white supremacist and an admire of The proud boys if not an actual member. If these factors were brought out in the courtroom I'm sure we'd have a different verdict because there was intent on his part he didn't have to be there he wanted to be there he wanted to kill people and be some kind of crazy hero for the far-right.

 

[theHawk]

Kyle Rittenhouse said he supports BLM and he only killed whites. He said this on the Tucker Carlson show.

I wouldn't mind him getting a medal.

He also said he likes Andrew Yang, and Donald Trump because he supports police.

 

[Stann]

I can't believe the idiots on this board trying to re-litigate the Rittenhouse trial, arguing right or wrong, guilty or innocent. Once the verdict is in, by a jury of 12, your sensibilities of right and wrong don't matter worth a damn in America. If anybody is still butt hurt, they can go get some Prep H and seek relief, while the rest of us will settle for the law and what a jury of his (peers) or in his case a jury of adults of different backgrounds, sex and ethnicity, that sat through the whole trial and every single detail, as well as the argument by the defense, prosecutions and the pronouncements of a judge in good standing of the state where the trial was held.

I have a moral issue with that ruling it was prejudicial beyond belief. I understand you can't be tried twice for the same crime. But he will be charged other accounts and found guilty of them for sure.

 

[Stann]

He also said he likes Andrew Yang, and Donald Trump because he supports police.

What he did weakend place it didn't help them.

 

[easyt65]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene has advanced such legislation and I shall be raising hell with my congress critter if he doesn't co-sponsor it.

Kyle Rittenhouse is one of those unique Americans that stands up against insanity, criminals and walks into chaos in order to establish order.

The kid isn't a hero. He exercised poor judgment showing up there with a gun. He was chased, attacked, and in defending himself he killed 2 people ; wounded a 3rd.

That's not worth a MoH.

 

[meaner gene]

I can't believe the idiots on this board trying to re-litigate the Rittenhouse trial, arguing right or wrong, guilty or innocent. Once the verdict is in, by a jury of 12, your sensibilities of right and wrong don't matter worth a damn in America. If anybody is still butt hurt, they can go get some Prep H and seek relief, while the rest of us will settle for the law and what a jury of his (peers) or in his case a jury of adults of different backgrounds, sex and ethnicity, that sat through the whole trial and every single detail, as well as the argument by the defense, prosecutions and the pronouncements of a judge in good standing of the state where the trial was held.

I agree 100%. But in my case i'm not trying to argue against the verdict, i'm pointing out that Rittenhouse still faces additional prosecutions for the straw purchase, and taking the gun across state lines, and possession by a minor.

It may actually have hurt Rittenhouse that the judge threw out the gun possession charge, as that removed any prior jeopardy to the charge.

 

[Anathema]

I was unaware of the Congressional Medal of Dumbassery; awarded to punk-ass children who commit manslaughter while carrying out vigilante actions.

 

[Mr Natural]

I was unaware of the Congressional Medal of Dumbassery; awarded to punk-ass children who commit manslaughter while carrying out vigilante actions.

We’ll put!

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

 

[Delldude]

The sort of dude who volunteers to clean up his community when bed wetting leftist pieces of shit from outside his community tried to destroy it.

Give me 1000 Kyle Rittenhouses and 1000 helicopters and I would clean this country up in a week.

I'm hearing a possible statue to go in the Capitol Rotunda.

 

[Delldude]

I was unaware of the Congressional Medal of Dumbassery; awarded to punk-ass children who commit manslaughter while carrying out vigilante actions.

The Antifa brown shirts get them from Pelosi.

 

[meaner gene]

I'm hearing a possible statue to go in the Capitol Rotunda.

Just how many delusions are you people suffering from.
If they can't get a DOD budget through congress, how do you expect them to agree on a medal of honor?

 

[Stann]

I'm hearing a possible statue to go in the Capitol Rotunda.

They don't erect statues to stupidity.