Koba - sralin sold the Jews to GESTAPO (USSR and Nazis were allies )

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Cieszyn Silesia was majority Polish, and taken from Poland by Czechs after WW1.

Czechs, and Poles are similar Catholic Nazis. Actually the first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech.

You have no proof that Hitler was Czech.

 

[EduardBernstein]

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Watch this:
Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The background behind the start of WWII is more involved than the general public understanding.

A lot of American bankers, and industrialists supported Hitler.

All wars are bankers' wars, and no war is ever really "the good guys" vs "the bad guys" -- it's always more complex.

Nazi Germany, and Nazi Poland were allies in WWII. They had a pact since 1933. Nazi Germany just went after the Righteous Poles. Many Poles were Nazi collaborators, sometimes even worse than Germans themselves. Same thing with the Ukrainians.

What?
Poland was the first to fight the Nazis, and the ONLY nation in occupied Europe to NOT setup a Nazi puppet state.

This guy is a real bozo.
Polish collaborators were among the lowest per capita in the whole of Europe.

Polish Righteous among the Nations were the highest in total numbers.

There also were no Polish SS units. Unlike most of the rest of Europe.

Poland killed many Jews. Complicity of Poles in the deaths of Jews is highly underestimated, scholars say

Grabowski is Kosher, he has reason to lie.

Why not talk about the Jewish Ghetto Police? Which Jewish historian Emanuel Ringelblum described as worse than the Polish Blue Police towards Jews?

You are an antisemite Nazi.

 

[EduardBernstein]

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Cieszyn Silesia was majority Polish, and taken from Poland by Czechs after WW1.

Czechs, and Poles are similar Catholic Nazis. Actually the first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech.

You have no proof that Hitler was Czech.

Hitler has Czech names in his family. Like Nepomuk, and Hiedler.

 

[EduardBernstein]

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

Soviets wanted to invade the Nazis in 1939. Poland rejected.Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'

The Soviets could have nipped WWII in the bud. Instead Poland rejected, and Nazis invaded Poland, and Poles capitulated.

 

[Litwin]

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Cieszyn Silesia was majority Polish, and taken from Poland by Czechs after WW1.

BS, "the second polish republic" committed a terrible crime by annexing parts of Czechoslovakia. but still Poland DID NOT start WW2 like paid troll from olgino here suggests.

 

[Litwin]

"first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech."

 

[Litwin]

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Watch this:
Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The background behind the start of WWII is more involved than the general public understanding.

A lot of American bankers, and industrialists supported Hitler.

All wars are bankers' wars, and no war is ever really "the good guys" vs "the bad guys" -- it's always more complex.

Nazi Germany, and Nazi Poland were allies in WWII. They had a pact since 1933. Nazi Germany just went after the Righteous Poles. Many Poles were Nazi collaborators, sometimes even worse than Germans themselves. Same thing with the Ukrainians.

What?
Poland was the first to fight the Nazis, and the ONLY nation in occupied Europe to NOT setup a Nazi puppet state.

This guy is a real bozo.
Polish collaborators were among the lowest per capita in the whole of Europe.

Polish Righteous among the Nations were the highest in total numbers.

There also were no Polish SS units. Unlike most of the rest of Europe.

True, and the allies should have declared war on both Germany and Russia for invading Poland.

yes they should, and what we know today, both governments were badly infected by commie - stalinist plague. including US president´s closest advisers

 

[Litwin]

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

the same goes to koba´s ussr, without Nazi military technologies and Nazi weapons it ´d not fight a modern war

 

[EduardBernstein]

"first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech."

View attachment 277106

All true.
Austrian National Socialism before 1918

Johann Nepomuk Hiedler - Commission on Assisted Dying

 

[EduardBernstein]

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

the same goes to koba´s ussr, without Nazi military technologies and Nazi weapons it ´d not fight a modern war

So Nazis invented the T-34 tank?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Watch this:
Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The background behind the start of WWII is more involved than the general public understanding.

A lot of American bankers, and industrialists supported Hitler.

All wars are bankers' wars, and no war is ever really "the good guys" vs "the bad guys" -- it's always more complex.

Nazi Germany, and Nazi Poland were allies in WWII. They had a pact since 1933. Nazi Germany just went after the Righteous Poles. Many Poles were Nazi collaborators, sometimes even worse than Germans themselves. Same thing with the Ukrainians.

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Cieszyn Silesia was majority Polish, and taken from Poland by Czechs after WW1.

Czechs, and Poles are similar Catholic Nazis. Actually the first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech.

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Watch this:
Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The background behind the start of WWII is more involved than the general public understanding.

A lot of American bankers, and industrialists supported Hitler.

All wars are bankers' wars, and no war is ever really "the good guys" vs "the bad guys" -- it's always more complex.

Nazi Germany, and Nazi Poland were allies in WWII. They had a pact since 1933. Nazi Germany just went after the Righteous Poles. Many Poles were Nazi collaborators, sometimes even worse than Germans themselves. Same thing with the Ukrainians.

What?
Poland was the first to fight the Nazis, and the ONLY nation in occupied Europe to NOT setup a Nazi puppet state.

This guy is a real bozo.
Polish collaborators were among the lowest per capita in the whole of Europe.

Polish Righteous among the Nations were the highest in total numbers.

There also were no Polish SS units. Unlike most of the rest of Europe.

Poland killed many Jews. Complicity of Poles in the deaths of Jews is highly underestimated, scholars say

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

Soviets wanted to invade the Nazis in 1939. Poland rejected.Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'

Watch this:
Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The background behind the start of WWII is more involved than the general public understanding.

All wars are bankers' wars, and no war is ever really "the good guys" vs "the bad guys" -- it's always more complex.

Nazi Germany, and Nazi Poland were allies in WWII. They had a pact since 1933. Nazi Germany just went after the Righteous Poles. Many Poles were Nazi collaborators, sometimes even worse than Germans themselves. Same thing with the Ukrainians.

What?
Poland was the first to fight the Nazis, and the ONLY nation in occupied Europe to NOT setup a Nazi puppet state.

This guy is a real bozo.
Polish collaborators were among the lowest per capita in the whole of Europe.

Polish Righteous among the Nations were the highest in total numbers.

There also were no Polish SS units. Unlike most of the rest of Europe.

Poland killed many Jews. Complicity of Poles in the deaths of Jews is highly underestimated, scholars say

Grabowski is Kosher, he has reason to lie.

Why not talk about the Jewish Ghetto Police? Which Jewish historian Emanuel Ringelblum described as worse than the Polish Blue Police towards Jews?

You are an antisemite Nazi.

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Cieszyn Silesia was majority Polish, and taken from Poland by Czechs after WW1.

Czechs, and Poles are similar Catholic Nazis. Actually the first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech.

You have no proof that Hitler was Czech.

Hitler has Czech names in his family. Like Nepomuk, and Hiedler.

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

Soviets wanted to invade the Nazis in 1939. Poland rejected.Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'

The Soviets could have nipped WWII in the bud. Instead Poland rejected, and Nazis invaded Poland, and Poles capitulated.

"first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech."

View attachment 277106

All true.
Austrian National Socialism before 1918

Johann Nepomuk Hiedler - Commission on Assisted Dying

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

the same goes to koba´s ussr, without Nazi military technologies and Nazi weapons it ´d not fight a modern war

So Nazis invented the T-34 tank?

Man, you need to STFU with all your lies. I dub thee King Shitposter.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Koba - sralin sold the Jews to GESTAPO (USSR and Nazis were allies ) . whats funny here, that 99% Muscovite don't want to know about it , they believe that WW2 stated in 1941

"
Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

2019/01/13 - 12:42 • History, International, More


Perhaps the only thing that outrages Russian defenders of Stalin more than the obvious parallels between his regime and Hitler’s is any reference to the alliance the two dictators formed in 1939 with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, one that opened the way to war in Europe and lasted until Hitler turned on his former ally in June 1941.

But now there may be something even more offensive to such defenders of Stalin and his system: the discovery of documents which confirm that Stalin’s NKVD cooperated closely with the Gestapo well before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed and that may have paved the way to its signature.

Dmitry Volchek of Radio Svoboda reports that documents recently released from the archives of the KGB offices in Ukraine show that “the NKVD handed over to the Gestapo refugees from Germany who had hoped to find in the USSR salvation from Hitler.”

Beginning well before 1939 and continuing right up to the German invasion, the Soviet secret police sent “hundreds” of refugees to their imprisonment, torture and in many cases death at the hands of the Gestapo. At first, it involved mostly German citizens; but later, this “cooperation” expanded to include others as well.

German historian Wilhelm Mensing has set up a website, “The NKVD and the Gestapo” at nkwd-und-gestapo.de, devoted to the fate of those who fled Hitler’s Germany only to be arrested in the USSR, sent to the GULAG or handed back to the Nazis. [Mensing is also the author of Von der Ruhr in den GULAG (2001) among other books.]

The documents from Ukraine are especially important for two reasons:

• In East Germany, any reference to this practice was prohibited; and there are few documents about it in Stasi files, Mensing says;
• And in Russia, the secret police files that presumably do contain documents about it remain classified and thus inaccessible to researchers.

Volchek asked Mensing about similarities between the NKVD and the Gestapo. The German historian answered that they shared “the specific qualities of the secret police. The Gestapo exterminated the Jewish population in occupied countries: this was its unique feature.” On the other hand, “the number of victims of the NKVD was apparently larger.”"

Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Pretty good book here:

 

[Litwin]

"
So Nazis invented the T-34 tank?
"

not Nazis , but Brits , it was a British tank from beginning. Nazis invented AK

 

[EduardBernstein]

"
So Nazis invented the T-34 tank?
"

not Nazis , but Brits , it was a British tank from beginning. Nazis invented AK

Prove that the British had invented the T-34 tank?

 

[EduardBernstein]

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Watch this:
Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The background behind the start of WWII is more involved than the general public understanding.

A lot of American bankers, and industrialists supported Hitler.

All wars are bankers' wars, and no war is ever really "the good guys" vs "the bad guys" -- it's always more complex.

Nazi Germany, and Nazi Poland were allies in WWII. They had a pact since 1933. Nazi Germany just went after the Righteous Poles. Many Poles were Nazi collaborators, sometimes even worse than Germans themselves. Same thing with the Ukrainians.

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Cieszyn Silesia was majority Polish, and taken from Poland by Czechs after WW1.

Czechs, and Poles are similar Catholic Nazis. Actually the first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech.

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Watch this:
Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The background behind the start of WWII is more involved than the general public understanding.

A lot of American bankers, and industrialists supported Hitler.

All wars are bankers' wars, and no war is ever really "the good guys" vs "the bad guys" -- it's always more complex.

Nazi Germany, and Nazi Poland were allies in WWII. They had a pact since 1933. Nazi Germany just went after the Righteous Poles. Many Poles were Nazi collaborators, sometimes even worse than Germans themselves. Same thing with the Ukrainians.

What?
Poland was the first to fight the Nazis, and the ONLY nation in occupied Europe to NOT setup a Nazi puppet state.

This guy is a real bozo.
Polish collaborators were among the lowest per capita in the whole of Europe.

Polish Righteous among the Nations were the highest in total numbers.

There also were no Polish SS units. Unlike most of the rest of Europe.

Poland killed many Jews. Complicity of Poles in the deaths of Jews is highly underestimated, scholars say

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

Soviets wanted to invade the Nazis in 1939. Poland rejected.Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'

Nazi Germany, and Nazi Poland were allies in WWII. They had a pact since 1933. Nazi Germany just went after the Righteous Poles. Many Poles were Nazi collaborators, sometimes even worse than Germans themselves. Same thing with the Ukrainians.

What?
Poland was the first to fight the Nazis, and the ONLY nation in occupied Europe to NOT setup a Nazi puppet state.

This guy is a real bozo.
Polish collaborators were among the lowest per capita in the whole of Europe.

Polish Righteous among the Nations were the highest in total numbers.

There also were no Polish SS units. Unlike most of the rest of Europe.

Poland killed many Jews. Complicity of Poles in the deaths of Jews is highly underestimated, scholars say

Grabowski is Kosher, he has reason to lie.

Why not talk about the Jewish Ghetto Police? Which Jewish historian Emanuel Ringelblum described as worse than the Polish Blue Police towards Jews?

You are an antisemite Nazi.

Nazis, and Poland started WW2 by jointly invading the Czech Sudeten land, and Cieszyn Silesia.

Cieszyn Silesia was majority Polish, and taken from Poland by Czechs after WW1.

Czechs, and Poles are similar Catholic Nazis. Actually the first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech.

You have no proof that Hitler was Czech.

Hitler has Czech names in his family. Like Nepomuk, and Hiedler.

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

Soviets wanted to invade the Nazis in 1939. Poland rejected.Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'

The Soviets could have nipped WWII in the bud. Instead Poland rejected, and Nazis invaded Poland, and Poles capitulated.

"first Nazis were Czech, and so was Hitler a Czech."

View attachment 277106

All true.
Austrian National Socialism before 1918

Johann Nepomuk Hiedler - Commission on Assisted Dying

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

the same goes to koba´s ussr, without Nazi military technologies and Nazi weapons it ´d not fight a modern war

So Nazis invented the T-34 tank?

Man, you need to STFU with all your lies. I dub thee King Shitposter.

Living conditions improved under Soviets for Russia including under Stalin. Stalin killed 5 million Nazis, he liberated Auschwitz, and helped found Israel through supplies, and training.

 

[EduardBernstein]

Koba - sralin sold the Jews to GESTAPO (USSR and Nazis were allies ) . whats funny here, that 99% Muscovite don't want to know about it , they believe that WW2 stated in 1941

"
Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

2019/01/13 - 12:42 • History, International, More


Perhaps the only thing that outrages Russian defenders of Stalin more than the obvious parallels between his regime and Hitler’s is any reference to the alliance the two dictators formed in 1939 with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, one that opened the way to war in Europe and lasted until Hitler turned on his former ally in June 1941.

But now there may be something even more offensive to such defenders of Stalin and his system: the discovery of documents which confirm that Stalin’s NKVD cooperated closely with the Gestapo well before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed and that may have paved the way to its signature.

Dmitry Volchek of Radio Svoboda reports that documents recently released from the archives of the KGB offices in Ukraine show that “the NKVD handed over to the Gestapo refugees from Germany who had hoped to find in the USSR salvation from Hitler.”

Beginning well before 1939 and continuing right up to the German invasion, the Soviet secret police sent “hundreds” of refugees to their imprisonment, torture and in many cases death at the hands of the Gestapo. At first, it involved mostly German citizens; but later, this “cooperation” expanded to include others as well.

German historian Wilhelm Mensing has set up a website, “The NKVD and the Gestapo” at nkwd-und-gestapo.de, devoted to the fate of those who fled Hitler’s Germany only to be arrested in the USSR, sent to the GULAG or handed back to the Nazis. [Mensing is also the author of Von der Ruhr in den GULAG (2001) among other books.]

The documents from Ukraine are especially important for two reasons:

• In East Germany, any reference to this practice was prohibited; and there are few documents about it in Stasi files, Mensing says;
• And in Russia, the secret police files that presumably do contain documents about it remain classified and thus inaccessible to researchers.

Volchek asked Mensing about similarities between the NKVD and the Gestapo. The German historian answered that they shared “the specific qualities of the secret police. The Gestapo exterminated the Jewish population in occupied countries: this was its unique feature.” On the other hand, “the number of victims of the NKVD was apparently larger.”"

Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Pretty good book here:

Living standards actually fell apart in Russia when switching to capitalism.
Soviets better than Russia today?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Koba - sralin sold the Jews to GESTAPO (USSR and Nazis were allies ) . whats funny here, that 99% Muscovite don't want to know about it , they believe that WW2 stated in 1941

"
Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

2019/01/13 - 12:42 • History, International, More


Perhaps the only thing that outrages Russian defenders of Stalin more than the obvious parallels between his regime and Hitler’s is any reference to the alliance the two dictators formed in 1939 with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, one that opened the way to war in Europe and lasted until Hitler turned on his former ally in June 1941.

But now there may be something even more offensive to such defenders of Stalin and his system: the discovery of documents which confirm that Stalin’s NKVD cooperated closely with the Gestapo well before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed and that may have paved the way to its signature.

Dmitry Volchek of Radio Svoboda reports that documents recently released from the archives of the KGB offices in Ukraine show that “the NKVD handed over to the Gestapo refugees from Germany who had hoped to find in the USSR salvation from Hitler.”

Beginning well before 1939 and continuing right up to the German invasion, the Soviet secret police sent “hundreds” of refugees to their imprisonment, torture and in many cases death at the hands of the Gestapo. At first, it involved mostly German citizens; but later, this “cooperation” expanded to include others as well.

German historian Wilhelm Mensing has set up a website, “The NKVD and the Gestapo” at nkwd-und-gestapo.de, devoted to the fate of those who fled Hitler’s Germany only to be arrested in the USSR, sent to the GULAG or handed back to the Nazis. [Mensing is also the author of Von der Ruhr in den GULAG (2001) among other books.]

The documents from Ukraine are especially important for two reasons:

• In East Germany, any reference to this practice was prohibited; and there are few documents about it in Stasi files, Mensing says;
• And in Russia, the secret police files that presumably do contain documents about it remain classified and thus inaccessible to researchers.

Volchek asked Mensing about similarities between the NKVD and the Gestapo. The German historian answered that they shared “the specific qualities of the secret police. The Gestapo exterminated the Jewish population in occupied countries: this was its unique feature.” On the other hand, “the number of victims of the NKVD was apparently larger.”"

Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Pretty good book here:

Living standards actually fell apart in Russia when switching to capitalism.
Soviets better than Russia today?

Oh....my bad: I assumed you were an adult.


This may be better:

And now for an explanation of freedom vs. socialism, on a level our Liberal pals might understand.
The Dog and the Wolf
A gaunt Wolf was almost dead with hunger when he happened to meet a House-dog who was passing by. "Ah, Cousin," said the Dog. "I knew how it would be; your irregular life will soon be the ruin of you. Why do you not work steadily as I do, and get your food regularly given to you?"

"I would have no objection," said the Wolf, "if I could only get a place."

"I will easily arrange that for you," said the Dog; "come with me to my master and you shall share my work."

So the Wolf and the Dog went towards the town together. On the way there the Wolf noticed that the hair on a certain part of the Dog's neck was very much worn away, so he asked him how that had come about.

"Oh, it is nothing," said the Dog. "That is only the place where the collar is put on at night to keep me chained up; it chafes a bit, but one soon gets used to it."

"Is that all?" said the Wolf. "Then good-bye to you, Master Dog."

Better starve free than be a fat slave.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Koba - sralin sold the Jews to GESTAPO (USSR and Nazis were allies ) . whats funny here, that 99% Muscovite don't want to know about it , they believe that WW2 stated in 1941

"
Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

2019/01/13 - 12:42 • History, International, More


Perhaps the only thing that outrages Russian defenders of Stalin more than the obvious parallels between his regime and Hitler’s is any reference to the alliance the two dictators formed in 1939 with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, one that opened the way to war in Europe and lasted until Hitler turned on his former ally in June 1941.

But now there may be something even more offensive to such defenders of Stalin and his system: the discovery of documents which confirm that Stalin’s NKVD cooperated closely with the Gestapo well before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed and that may have paved the way to its signature.

Dmitry Volchek of Radio Svoboda reports that documents recently released from the archives of the KGB offices in Ukraine show that “the NKVD handed over to the Gestapo refugees from Germany who had hoped to find in the USSR salvation from Hitler.”

Beginning well before 1939 and continuing right up to the German invasion, the Soviet secret police sent “hundreds” of refugees to their imprisonment, torture and in many cases death at the hands of the Gestapo. At first, it involved mostly German citizens; but later, this “cooperation” expanded to include others as well.

German historian Wilhelm Mensing has set up a website, “The NKVD and the Gestapo” at nkwd-und-gestapo.de, devoted to the fate of those who fled Hitler’s Germany only to be arrested in the USSR, sent to the GULAG or handed back to the Nazis. [Mensing is also the author of Von der Ruhr in den GULAG (2001) among other books.]

The documents from Ukraine are especially important for two reasons:

• In East Germany, any reference to this practice was prohibited; and there are few documents about it in Stasi files, Mensing says;
• And in Russia, the secret police files that presumably do contain documents about it remain classified and thus inaccessible to researchers.

Volchek asked Mensing about similarities between the NKVD and the Gestapo. The German historian answered that they shared “the specific qualities of the secret police. The Gestapo exterminated the Jewish population in occupied countries: this was its unique feature.” On the other hand, “the number of victims of the NKVD was apparently larger.”"

Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Were Stalin and Sralin related?

 

[EduardBernstein]

Koba - sralin sold the Jews to GESTAPO (USSR and Nazis were allies ) . whats funny here, that 99% Muscovite don't want to know about it , they believe that WW2 stated in 1941

"
Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

2019/01/13 - 12:42 • History, International, More


Perhaps the only thing that outrages Russian defenders of Stalin more than the obvious parallels between his regime and Hitler’s is any reference to the alliance the two dictators formed in 1939 with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, one that opened the way to war in Europe and lasted until Hitler turned on his former ally in June 1941.

But now there may be something even more offensive to such defenders of Stalin and his system: the discovery of documents which confirm that Stalin’s NKVD cooperated closely with the Gestapo well before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed and that may have paved the way to its signature.

Dmitry Volchek of Radio Svoboda reports that documents recently released from the archives of the KGB offices in Ukraine show that “the NKVD handed over to the Gestapo refugees from Germany who had hoped to find in the USSR salvation from Hitler.”

Beginning well before 1939 and continuing right up to the German invasion, the Soviet secret police sent “hundreds” of refugees to their imprisonment, torture and in many cases death at the hands of the Gestapo. At first, it involved mostly German citizens; but later, this “cooperation” expanded to include others as well.

German historian Wilhelm Mensing has set up a website, “The NKVD and the Gestapo” at nkwd-und-gestapo.de, devoted to the fate of those who fled Hitler’s Germany only to be arrested in the USSR, sent to the GULAG or handed back to the Nazis. [Mensing is also the author of Von der Ruhr in den GULAG (2001) among other books.]

The documents from Ukraine are especially important for two reasons:

• In East Germany, any reference to this practice was prohibited; and there are few documents about it in Stasi files, Mensing says;
• And in Russia, the secret police files that presumably do contain documents about it remain classified and thus inaccessible to researchers.

Volchek asked Mensing about similarities between the NKVD and the Gestapo. The German historian answered that they shared “the specific qualities of the secret police. The Gestapo exterminated the Jewish population in occupied countries: this was its unique feature.” On the other hand, “the number of victims of the NKVD was apparently larger.”"

Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Pretty good book here:

Living standards actually fell apart in Russia when switching to capitalism.
Soviets better than Russia today?

Oh....my bad: I assumed you were an adult.


This may be better:

And now for an explanation of freedom vs. socialism, on a level our Liberal pals might understand.
The Dog and the Wolf
A gaunt Wolf was almost dead with hunger when he happened to meet a House-dog who was passing by. "Ah, Cousin," said the Dog. "I knew how it would be; your irregular life will soon be the ruin of you. Why do you not work steadily as I do, and get your food regularly given to you?"

"I would have no objection," said the Wolf, "if I could only get a place."

"I will easily arrange that for you," said the Dog; "come with me to my master and you shall share my work."

So the Wolf and the Dog went towards the town together. On the way there the Wolf noticed that the hair on a certain part of the Dog's neck was very much worn away, so he asked him how that had come about.

"Oh, it is nothing," said the Dog. "That is only the place where the collar is put on at night to keep me chained up; it chafes a bit, but one soon gets used to it."

"Is that all?" said the Wolf. "Then good-bye to you, Master Dog."

Better starve free than be a fat slave.

I am 62 years old, and a retired professor. Freedom leads to decadence.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Koba - sralin sold the Jews to GESTAPO (USSR and Nazis were allies ) . whats funny here, that 99% Muscovite don't want to know about it , they believe that WW2 stated in 1941

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Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

2019/01/13 - 12:42 • History, International, More


Perhaps the only thing that outrages Russian defenders of Stalin more than the obvious parallels between his regime and Hitler’s is any reference to the alliance the two dictators formed in 1939 with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, one that opened the way to war in Europe and lasted until Hitler turned on his former ally in June 1941.

But now there may be something even more offensive to such defenders of Stalin and his system: the discovery of documents which confirm that Stalin’s NKVD cooperated closely with the Gestapo well before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed and that may have paved the way to its signature.

Dmitry Volchek of Radio Svoboda reports that documents recently released from the archives of the KGB offices in Ukraine show that “the NKVD handed over to the Gestapo refugees from Germany who had hoped to find in the USSR salvation from Hitler.”

Beginning well before 1939 and continuing right up to the German invasion, the Soviet secret police sent “hundreds” of refugees to their imprisonment, torture and in many cases death at the hands of the Gestapo. At first, it involved mostly German citizens; but later, this “cooperation” expanded to include others as well.

German historian Wilhelm Mensing has set up a website, “The NKVD and the Gestapo” at nkwd-und-gestapo.de, devoted to the fate of those who fled Hitler’s Germany only to be arrested in the USSR, sent to the GULAG or handed back to the Nazis. [Mensing is also the author of Von der Ruhr in den GULAG (2001) among other books.]

The documents from Ukraine are especially important for two reasons:

• In East Germany, any reference to this practice was prohibited; and there are few documents about it in Stasi files, Mensing says;
• And in Russia, the secret police files that presumably do contain documents about it remain classified and thus inaccessible to researchers.

Volchek asked Mensing about similarities between the NKVD and the Gestapo. The German historian answered that they shared “the specific qualities of the secret police. The Gestapo exterminated the Jewish population in occupied countries: this was its unique feature.” On the other hand, “the number of victims of the NKVD was apparently larger.”"

Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo cooperated closely even before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Pretty good book here:

Living standards actually fell apart in Russia when switching to capitalism.
Soviets better than Russia today?

Oh....my bad: I assumed you were an adult.


This may be better:

And now for an explanation of freedom vs. socialism, on a level our Liberal pals might understand.
The Dog and the Wolf
A gaunt Wolf was almost dead with hunger when he happened to meet a House-dog who was passing by. "Ah, Cousin," said the Dog. "I knew how it would be; your irregular life will soon be the ruin of you. Why do you not work steadily as I do, and get your food regularly given to you?"

"I would have no objection," said the Wolf, "if I could only get a place."

"I will easily arrange that for you," said the Dog; "come with me to my master and you shall share my work."

So the Wolf and the Dog went towards the town together. On the way there the Wolf noticed that the hair on a certain part of the Dog's neck was very much worn away, so he asked him how that had come about.

"Oh, it is nothing," said the Dog. "That is only the place where the collar is put on at night to keep me chained up; it chafes a bit, but one soon gets used to it."

"Is that all?" said the Wolf. "Then good-bye to you, Master Dog."

Better starve free than be a fat slave.

I am 62 years old, and a retired professor. Freedom leads to decadence.

And you prove that everything we on the Right have said about universities and the professors therein, is true.

You are clearly mentally deficient, indoctrinated, and a danger to the next generation.