Koba - sralin sold the Jews to GESTAPO (USSR and Nazis were allies )

[EduardBernstein]

Oh....my bad: I assumed you were an adult.


This may be better:

And now for an explanation of freedom vs. socialism, on a level our Liberal pals might understand.
The Dog and the Wolf
A gaunt Wolf was almost dead with hunger when he happened to meet a House-dog who was passing by. "Ah, Cousin," said the Dog. "I knew how it would be; your irregular life will soon be the ruin of you. Why do you not work steadily as I do, and get your food regularly given to you?"

"I would have no objection," said the Wolf, "if I could only get a place."

"I will easily arrange that for you," said the Dog; "come with me to my master and you shall share my work."

So the Wolf and the Dog went towards the town together. On the way there the Wolf noticed that the hair on a certain part of the Dog's neck was very much worn away, so he asked him how that had come about.

"Oh, it is nothing," said the Dog. "That is only the place where the collar is put on at night to keep me chained up; it chafes a bit, but one soon gets used to it."

"Is that all?" said the Wolf. "Then good-bye to you, Master Dog."

Better starve free than be a fat slave.

I am 62 years old, and a retired professor. Freedom leads to decadence.

And you prove that everything we on the Right have said about universities and the professors therein, is true.

You are clearly mentally deficient, indoctrinated, and a danger to the next generation.

this guy is a professional provocateur from olgino and he succeed with you, R vs D is only one of many combination which plays here...

He might really be a Jewish professor. There are a lot of them who are just like this.

no he is a professional provocateur, he has nothing to do with Jews

People who worship antisemitic regimes like Bandera have nothing to do with Jews. You are a fake Jew provocateur. I would say you are a dumb Polak. But even they don't like Bandera, and they don't mock Poland like you do. You do seem to care much for Czechs though. Are you Czech?

 

[EduardBernstein]

Russia fell apart because they tried to institute the plans of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx.


Have you ever read a book, you dunce?????

Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64. The life expectancy grew enormously under Lenin, and Stalin for Russia, much faster than in the United States.Health in Russia - Wikipedia

"Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64."

So, you're two years beyond your sell-by date....


I would be honored to help carry your coffin. Um...Is tomorrow okay for you?






BTW....every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists.....

"1950 the life expectancy was 64" in villages only 42 for males

Why are you quoting me.....that wasn't my statement.

This was:
..every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists....


Try be be more observant.

"any statistics that came from the Communists...." great point, you are 120% right, even POLITBURO did not have a correct statistics...

What makes capitalists better than communists?

 

[Litwin]

U

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

Soviets wanted to invade the Nazis in 1939. Poland rejected.Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'

The Soviets could have nipped WWII in the bud. Instead Poland rejected, and Nazis invaded Poland, and Poles capitulated.

Poland regrouped as Armia Krajowa, and the Polish II Corps after the country fell to both Nazis, and their Soviet allies.

"Poland regrouped as Armia Krajowa, and the Polish II Corps after the country fell to both Nazis, and their Soviet allies."

nothing , compere to fight which brought upon occupants UPA , do you know that UPA closed GULAG?

UPA killed many Jews. Of course you as a fake Jew would worship Bandera.

many many Jew fought in UPA forces , one of the main UPA ideologies (European socialist ) was a Jew

 

[EduardBernstein]

"Nazis, and Poland started WW2" its clear TV.ru propaganda, only juchi folk like you liar believe, buy it

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

Soviets wanted to invade the Nazis in 1939. Poland rejected.Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'

The Soviets could have nipped WWII in the bud. Instead Poland rejected, and Nazis invaded Poland, and Poles capitulated.

Poland regrouped as Armia Krajowa, and the Polish II Corps after the country fell to both Nazis, and their Soviet allies.

Poland was weak, and had many enthusiastic Nazi collaborators. The worst were the blue police, and the pogrom at Jedwabne.

 

[EduardBernstein]

U

Soviets wanted to invade the Nazis in 1939. Poland rejected.Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'

The Soviets could have nipped WWII in the bud. Instead Poland rejected, and Nazis invaded Poland, and Poles capitulated.

Poland regrouped as Armia Krajowa, and the Polish II Corps after the country fell to both Nazis, and their Soviet allies.

"Poland regrouped as Armia Krajowa, and the Polish II Corps after the country fell to both Nazis, and their Soviet allies."

nothing , compere to fight which brought upon occupants UPA , do you know that UPA closed GULAG?

UPA killed many Jews. Of course you as a fake Jew would worship Bandera.

many many Jew fought in UPA forces , one of the main UPA ideologies (European socialist ) was a Jew

There are numerous accounts of UPA killing Jews.

 

[Litwin]

"There are numerous accounts of UPA killing Jews." it was very much chaotic fight, different fractions UPA , provocations NKVD, GESTAPO , etc. in western Ukraine 23 armed different groups were active . including Jewish partisans , Bandera fraction was one of he most well organized. they did not see the Jews as the enemies, they fought Poles, and Mongols juchi mostly

 

[EduardBernstein]

Of course Republicans hate educators, they require taxation, and lead to a lack of ignorance. Republicans thrive on ignorance. How else will they get voters if everybody's educated?

I'm an Ivy League grad, clearly better educated than you are, but I love your posts as they prove everything we on the right have said.


Don't ever change.

Russia fell apart with the switch to capitalism. Food consumption went down, life expectancy fell further behind the United States, the number of patents in the Soviet Union was the #1 in the world in the 1980's. Now just about every first world country is producing more patents than Russia. The per capita income GDP of Russia fell further behind the United States after the switch to capitalism too. Homelessness has risen. Pollution is on the rise. There was a massive crime wave in Russia in the 1990's, that didn't go on during the Soviet era.

Russia fell apart because they tried to institute the plans of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx.


Have you ever read a book, you dunce?????

Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64. The life expectancy grew enormously under Lenin, and Stalin for Russia, much faster than in the United States.Health in Russia - Wikipedia

"Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64."

So, you're two years beyond your sell-by date....


I would be honored to help carry your coffin. Um...Is tomorrow okay for you?






BTW....every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists.....

Russia really did fall apart because of capitalism. Soviets better than Russia today?

 

[EduardBernstein]

"There are numerous accounts of UPA killing Jews." it was very much chaotic fight, different fractions UPA , provocations NKVD, GESTAPO , etc. in western Ukraine 23 armed different groups were active . including Jewish partisans , Bandera fraction was one of he most well organized. they did not see the Jews as the enemies, they fought Poles, and Mongols juchi mostly

You are such a fake Jew.
Stepan Bandera - Wikipedia
Section G of the program – "Directives for organizing the life of the state during the first days" (Ukrainian: "\) outlined activity of the Bandera followers during mid-1941.[61] In a subsection on "Minority Policy", the leaders of OUN-B ordered:

Moskali [i.e. ethnic Russians], Poles, and Jews that are hostile to us are to be destroyed in struggle, particularly those opposing the regime, by means of: deporting them to their own lands, eradicating their intelligentsia, which is not to be admitted to any governmental positions, and overall preventing any creation of this intelligentsia (e.g. access to education etc)... Jews are to be isolated, removed from governmental positions in order to prevent sabotage... Those who are deemed necessary may only work under strict supervision and removed from their positions for slightest misconduct... Jewish assimilation is not possible.[70][71][72]

Later in June, Yaroslav Stetsko sent to Bandera a report in which he stated "We are creating a militia which will help to remove the Jews and protect the population."[73][74] Leaflets spread in the name of Bandera in the same year called for the "destruction" of "Moscow", Poles, Hungarians and Jewry.[75][76][77] In 1941–1942 while Bandera was cooperating with the Germans, OUN members did take part in anti-Jewish actions. German police at 1941 reported that "fanatic" Bandera followers, organised in small groups were "extraordinarily active" against Jews and communists.[78]

However, when Bandera was in conflict with the Germans, the UPA under his authority sheltered Jews,[79] and included some Jewish fighters and medical personnel.[80][81] In the official organ of the OUN-B's leadership, instructions to OUN groups urged those groups to "liquidate the manifestations of harmful foreign influence, particularly the German racist concepts and practices."[82] Several Jews took part in Bandera's underground movement,[83] including one of Bandera's close associates Richard Yary who was also married to a Jewish woman. Another notable Jewish UPA member was Leyba-Itzik "Valeriy" Dombrovsky. (While two Karaites from Galicia, Anna-Amelia Leonowicz (1925–1949) and her mother, Helena (Ruhama) Leonowicz (1890–1967), are reported to have become members of OUN, oral accounts suggest that both women collaborated not of their own free will, but following threats from nationalists.[84]) By 1942, Nazi officials had concluded that Ukrainian nationalists were largely indifferent to Jews and were willing to both help them or kill them, if either better served the nationalist cause. A report, dated 30 March 1942, sent to the Gestapo in Berlin, claimed that "the Bandera movement provided forged passports not only for its own members, but also for Jews."[85] The false papers were most likely supplied to Jewish doctors or skilled workers who could be useful for the movement.[86]

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

"There are numerous accounts of UPA killing Jews." it was very much chaotic fight, different fractions UPA , provocations NKVD, GESTAPO , etc. in western Ukraine 23 armed different groups were active . including Jewish partisans , Bandera fraction was one of he most well organized. they did not see the Jews as the enemies, they fought Poles, and Mongols juchi mostly

The UPA, and Bandera were monsters. They killed even more Poles in Wolyn, and Eastern Galicia, than Soviets had in Katyn.
A big difference was also that Wolyn Massacre by Ukrainian terrorist UPA mostly killed women, and children. Katyn mostly killed military officials. While horrible, what Ukrainians did was even worse. Especially when the Ukrainian thugs burned down Poles homes, cut them with axes, saws, and machetes.

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia - Wikipedia

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I'm an Ivy League grad, clearly better educated than you are, but I love your posts as they prove everything we on the right have said.


Don't ever change.

Russia fell apart with the switch to capitalism. Food consumption went down, life expectancy fell further behind the United States, the number of patents in the Soviet Union was the #1 in the world in the 1980's. Now just about every first world country is producing more patents than Russia. The per capita income GDP of Russia fell further behind the United States after the switch to capitalism too. Homelessness has risen. Pollution is on the rise. There was a massive crime wave in Russia in the 1990's, that didn't go on during the Soviet era.

Russia fell apart because they tried to institute the plans of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx.


Have you ever read a book, you dunce?????

Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64. The life expectancy grew enormously under Lenin, and Stalin for Russia, much faster than in the United States.Health in Russia - Wikipedia

"Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64."

So, you're two years beyond your sell-by date....


I would be honored to help carry your coffin. Um...Is tomorrow okay for you?






BTW....every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists.....

Russia really did fall apart because of capitalism. Soviets better than Russia today?

Maybe Russians are too dumb. They need a nanny state to force the lazies to work. LOL

 

[PoliticalChic]

Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64. The life expectancy grew enormously under Lenin, and Stalin for Russia, much faster than in the United States.Health in Russia - Wikipedia

"Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64."

So, you're two years beyond your sell-by date....


I would be honored to help carry your coffin. Um...Is tomorrow okay for you?






BTW....every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists.....

"1950 the life expectancy was 64" in villages only 42 for males

Why are you quoting me.....that wasn't my statement.

This was:
..every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists....


Try be be more observant.

"any statistics that came from the Communists...." great point, you are 120% right, even POLITBURO did not have a correct statistics...

What makes capitalists better than communists?

"What makes capitalists better than communists?"

Freedom, you dolt.

1. Now, here is the determining criterion as to which is better: which is better able to correct itself? This is the difference between, as Thomas Sowell would say, the free market (constrained) and the Liberal (unconstrained) view of the world. Either side may be wrong about plans, or about programs. But which system is better able to discard the failed and experiment to find the new.
   1. The constrained view is that no human beings, nor any conglomeration of same, are omnipotent, nor omniscient, nor omnibenevolent. We are even incapable of knowing the true nature of the problems we face. This may be called the Tragic View. The values of one generation are seen later as absurd: slavery, phenology, lobotomy, women as property, etc.
2. The answer is the free market. It is not perfect; it is simply better than state control. It is the one that has to respond quickly and effectively to dissatisfaction and to demand.
   1. In the free market, if a product or service does not please, it is discontinued. Compare that to government persistence and expansion of programs that proven to have failed decades ago: farm subsidies, aid to Africa, busing, etc.
3. In the free market, every man, woman and child is scheming to find a better way to make a product or service that will make a fortune! David Mamet

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Russia didn't kill as many Jews as Poland, or Ukraine. Even the Kaminski brigade the leading Nazi collaborator unit in Russia was led by an ethnic Polak.

Litwin is right that without the Soviet supply lines in the German Soviet Credit Agreement / German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
the Holocaust wouldn't have been possible.

Soviets wanted to invade the Nazis in 1939. Poland rejected.Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'

The Soviets could have nipped WWII in the bud. Instead Poland rejected, and Nazis invaded Poland, and Poles capitulated.

Poland regrouped as Armia Krajowa, and the Polish II Corps after the country fell to both Nazis, and their Soviet allies.

Poland was weak, and had many enthusiastic Nazi collaborators. The worst were the blue police, and the pogrom at Jedwabne.

What nonsense.

Poles per capita had one of, if not the lowest rate of Nazi collaborators in Europe.

The Blue Police were forced into it, by bullying, and intimidation.

Jedwabne may have been at least partially inspired by Nazi Germany.

The reason why a few Poles convicted for Jedwabne took part in it, is because local Kosher people were collaborating with the Soviet NKVD to send Poles to GULAG prisons to be slaves, or even die.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

"Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64."

So, you're two years beyond your sell-by date....


I would be honored to help carry your coffin. Um...Is tomorrow okay for you?






BTW....every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists.....

"1950 the life expectancy was 64" in villages only 42 for males

Why are you quoting me.....that wasn't my statement.

This was:
..every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists....


Try be be more observant.

"any statistics that came from the Communists...." great point, you are 120% right, even POLITBURO did not have a correct statistics...

What makes capitalists better than communists?

"What makes capitalists better than communists?"

Freedom, you dolt.

1. Now, here is the determining criterion as to which is better: which is better able to correct itself? This is the difference between, as Thomas Sowell would say, the free market (constrained) and the Liberal (unconstrained) view of the world. Either side may be wrong about plans, or about programs. But which system is better able to discard the failed and experiment to find the new.
   1. The constrained view is that no human beings, nor any conglomeration of same, are omnipotent, nor omniscient, nor omnibenevolent. We are even incapable of knowing the true nature of the problems we face. This may be called the Tragic View. The values of one generation are seen later as absurd: slavery, phenology, lobotomy, women as property, etc.
2. The answer is the free market. It is not perfect; it is simply better than state control. It is the one that has to respond quickly and effectively to dissatisfaction and to demand.
   1. In the free market, if a product or service does not please, it is discontinued. Compare that to government persistence and expansion of programs that proven to have failed decades ago: farm subsidies, aid to Africa, busing, etc.
3. In the free market, every man, woman and child is scheming to find a better way to make a product or service that will make a fortune! David Mamet

Real Right-Wingers aren't too fond of freedom, either.

We understand that freedom allows for abortion, pornography, prostitution, illicit drugs, Capitalists hiring illegals, H1-Visa peoples, and outsourcing to hostile China, LGBTQ bars, and merchandise.
As well as Facebook, Google, the media, and Hollywood supporting Liberal propaganda, and degenerate values.

 

[EduardBernstein]

Russia fell apart with the switch to capitalism. Food consumption went down, life expectancy fell further behind the United States, the number of patents in the Soviet Union was the #1 in the world in the 1980's. Now just about every first world country is producing more patents than Russia. The per capita income GDP of Russia fell further behind the United States after the switch to capitalism too. Homelessness has risen. Pollution is on the rise. There was a massive crime wave in Russia in the 1990's, that didn't go on during the Soviet era.

Russia fell apart because they tried to institute the plans of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx.


Have you ever read a book, you dunce?????

Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64. The life expectancy grew enormously under Lenin, and Stalin for Russia, much faster than in the United States.Health in Russia - Wikipedia

"Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64."

So, you're two years beyond your sell-by date....


I would be honored to help carry your coffin. Um...Is tomorrow okay for you?






BTW....every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists.....

Russia really did fall apart because of capitalism. Soviets better than Russia today?

Maybe Russians are too dumb. They need a nanny state to force the lazies to work. LOL

Soviet Russia put the first man into space. Russia has had some great scientists. Far more in the Soviet era than now of course.

 

[EduardBernstein]

"There are numerous accounts of UPA killing Jews." it was very much chaotic fight, different fractions UPA , provocations NKVD, GESTAPO , etc. in western Ukraine 23 armed different groups were active . including Jewish partisans , Bandera fraction was one of he most well organized. they did not see the Jews as the enemies, they fought Poles, and Mongols juchi mostly

The UPA, and Bandera were monsters. They killed even more Poles in Wolyn, and Eastern Galicia, than Soviets had in Katyn.
A big difference was also that Wolyn Massacre by Ukrainian terrorist UPA mostly killed women, and children. Katyn mostly killed military officials. While horrible, what Ukrainians did was even worse. Especially when the Ukrainian thugs burned down Poles homes, cut them with axes, saws, and machetes.

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia - Wikipedia

It is funny that Ukrainians, and Poles fought like cats, and dogs when they are both antisemitic monsters who can't get it together.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Russia fell apart because they tried to institute the plans of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx.


Have you ever read a book, you dunce?????

Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64. The life expectancy grew enormously under Lenin, and Stalin for Russia, much faster than in the United States.Health in Russia - Wikipedia

"Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64."

So, you're two years beyond your sell-by date....


I would be honored to help carry your coffin. Um...Is tomorrow okay for you?






BTW....every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists.....

Russia really did fall apart because of capitalism. Soviets better than Russia today?

Maybe Russians are too dumb. They need a nanny state to force the lazies to work. LOL

Soviet Russia put the first man into space. Russia has had some great scientists. Far more in the Soviet era than now of course.

Many of those rocket scientists came from Ukraine, and Poland.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

"There are numerous accounts of UPA killing Jews." it was very much chaotic fight, different fractions UPA , provocations NKVD, GESTAPO , etc. in western Ukraine 23 armed different groups were active . including Jewish partisans , Bandera fraction was one of he most well organized. they did not see the Jews as the enemies, they fought Poles, and Mongols juchi mostly

The UPA, and Bandera were monsters. They killed even more Poles in Wolyn, and Eastern Galicia, than Soviets had in Katyn.
A big difference was also that Wolyn Massacre by Ukrainian terrorist UPA mostly killed women, and children. Katyn mostly killed military officials. While horrible, what Ukrainians did was even worse. Especially when the Ukrainian thugs burned down Poles homes, cut them with axes, saws, and machetes.

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia - Wikipedia

It is funny that Ukrainians, and Poles fought like cats, and dogs when they are both antisemitic monsters who can't get it together.

Poland was historically the best place for Jews in Europe , same holds true during WWII.

 

[EduardBernstein]

Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64. The life expectancy grew enormously under Lenin, and Stalin for Russia, much faster than in the United States.Health in Russia - Wikipedia

"Russia had a life expectancy of 32 years in 1913, by 1950 the life expectancy was 64."

So, you're two years beyond your sell-by date....


I would be honored to help carry your coffin. Um...Is tomorrow okay for you?






BTW....every person with an IQ in double digits learned long ago not to believe any statistics that came from the Communists.....

Russia really did fall apart because of capitalism. Soviets better than Russia today?

Maybe Russians are too dumb. They need a nanny state to force the lazies to work. LOL

Soviet Russia put the first man into space. Russia has had some great scientists. Far more in the Soviet era than now of course.

Many of those rocket scientists came from Ukraine, and Poland.

Most of them thought of themselves as Soviets, and worked for Soviet greatness.

 

[EduardBernstein]

"There are numerous accounts of UPA killing Jews." it was very much chaotic fight, different fractions UPA , provocations NKVD, GESTAPO , etc. in western Ukraine 23 armed different groups were active . including Jewish partisans , Bandera fraction was one of he most well organized. they did not see the Jews as the enemies, they fought Poles, and Mongols juchi mostly

The UPA, and Bandera were monsters. They killed even more Poles in Wolyn, and Eastern Galicia, than Soviets had in Katyn.
A big difference was also that Wolyn Massacre by Ukrainian terrorist UPA mostly killed women, and children. Katyn mostly killed military officials. While horrible, what Ukrainians did was even worse. Especially when the Ukrainian thugs burned down Poles homes, cut them with axes, saws, and machetes.

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia - Wikipedia

It is funny that Ukrainians, and Poles fought like cats, and dogs when they are both antisemitic monsters who can't get it together.

Poland was historically the best place for Jews in Europe , same holds true during WWII.

Everybody knows Poland was nasty for Jews. Look at Ghetto Benches just before WWII.

 

[Litwin]

"There are numerous accounts of UPA killing Jews." it was very much chaotic fight, different fractions UPA , provocations NKVD, GESTAPO , etc. in western Ukraine 23 armed different groups were active . including Jewish partisans , Bandera fraction was one of he most well organized. they did not see the Jews as the enemies, they fought Poles, and Mongols juchi mostly

The UPA, and Bandera were monsters. They killed even more Poles in Wolyn, and Eastern Galicia, than Soviets had in Katyn.
A big difference was also that Wolyn Massacre by Ukrainian terrorist UPA mostly killed women, and children. Katyn mostly killed military officials. While horrible, what Ukrainians did was even worse. Especially when the Ukrainian thugs burned down Poles homes, cut them with axes, saws, and machetes.

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia - Wikipedia

It is funny that Ukrainians, and Poles fought like cats, and dogs when they are both antisemitic monsters who can't get it together.

Poland was historically the best place for Jews in Europe , same holds true during WWII.

one of the best i ´d say , in Belarus (GDL) they have had even better , Italian republics , Spain , etc,