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We provided the corrupt and inept Government of South Vietnam with billions of dollars in military aid along with 60,000 US deaths. They used this aid to enrich themselves and their friends.Nixon deserves part of the blame for the loss of Vietnam, but the Democrats deserve much more blame. Nixon's peace deal was a disaster, but it ended in disaster because the Democrats would not honor our pledge to South Vietnam to provide bombing and supply support if North Vietnam invaded again.
The real blame goes to Truman who sold out Vietnam to the French after WWII. Rather than supporting a free and Democratic Vietnam, Truman supported France reestablishing it’s Colonial Empire. And people wonder why Vietnam turned to Communism.
Regardless of what Truman did in the late 1940s regarding Vietnam, South Vietnam would be much like South Korea today if the Democrats had not refused to provide South Vietnam with the bombing and material support that we had promised them if North Vietnam invaded again. But the treasonous Democrats took advantage of the Watergate scandal to break our pledge of support to South Vietnam and allowed the Communists to overrun the country.
The ironic thing is that Vietnam was a legitimate use of the American Military even though the initial response was a fraudulent "crisis" created by LBJ's CIA operatives. If the truth be known it wasn't the US Military that was running the Vietnam operation, it was clerks and freaking idiots in the CIA while the Generals stood by and watched the situation deteriorate both politically and in the field. When push came to shove the CIA operatives in the media and their minions in the democrat party managed to blame Nixon when congress suddenly withdrew funding for the conflict and poor old Tricky Dick was left holding the bag.We provided the corrupt and inept Government of South Vietnam with billions of dollars in military aid along with 60,000 US deaths. They used this aid to enrich themselves and their friends.Nixon deserves part of the blame for the loss of Vietnam, but the Democrats deserve much more blame. Nixon's peace deal was a disaster, but it ended in disaster because the Democrats would not honor our pledge to South Vietnam to provide bombing and supply support if North Vietnam invaded again.
The real blame goes to Truman who sold out Vietnam to the French after WWII. Rather than supporting a free and Democratic Vietnam, Truman supported France reestablishing it’s Colonial Empire. And people wonder why Vietnam turned to Communism.
Regardless of what Truman did in the late 1940s regarding Vietnam, South Vietnam would be much like South Korea today if the Democrats had not refused to provide South Vietnam with the bombing and material support that we had promised them if North Vietnam invaded again. But the treasonous Democrats took advantage of the Watergate scandal to break our pledge of support to South Vietnam and allowed the Communists to overrun the country.
When left to fight on their own, they were incapable of mounting a basic defense. We never should have been there in the first place.
McNamara even said it was wrong/etc:Yea...everyone was advocating peace in Vietnam in 1963.You’re uninformed. JFK changed dramatically while in the White House, from his days as a hardened cold warrior. He gave a speech not long before he was murdered, that people like you ignore. Guess what? It’s call the Peace Speech. He also was covertly negotiating with Khrushchev to end the Cold War. He was in constant disagreement with the JCS and many others in his administration who wanted war. He intended to pull out of Vietnam as soon as he was re-elected. All these things are ignored or minimized by people like you.Many disagree, but you wouldn’t know this.JFK would have followed the same path that LBJ did in VietnamHad JFK not been ruthlessly murdered by a cabal of criminals, we would have.We should have gotten out in 1964
He had the same advisors
Those who martyr JFK think he is incapable of making a wrong decision. Any President in 1965 would have done the same as LBJ. Nixon, Goldwater AND JFK would not have passed on an opportunity to fight communism. It would have ruined their careers
Then Diem was assassinated (three weeks before JFK) and the South went into turmoil. North Vietnam was on the verge of overtaking the South unless they received military aid.
LBJ wanted no part of putting American troops on the ground. But he was adamant that “Vietnam won’t turn communist on my watch” and his military advisers and Secretary of Defense MacNamara (same as LBJ had) all said we needed a few ground troops to turn back the tide and we would be home by Christmas.
LBJ took the bait. So would have JFK
LBJ had to deal with the fact that the military and MCNamara were liars, and he was on his own in trying to figure out fact from fiction; overall he did very well, and 3 years later the NLF was toast. Radicals here in the U.S. jumped to the defense of their Soviet heroes and ruined any chance to follow that up.
like I have said with many links and much proof in my other thread--unwinnable:"We were just wrong, both military leaders and civilian leaders, in failing to recognize the nature of the conflict and failing to recognize early on that the strategy we were following would not accomplish our objective," McNamara told the AP Radio Network
Convinced that the war was unwinnable,
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As Defense Secretary, McNamara should have let LBJ knowMcNamara even said it was wrong/etc:Yea...everyone was advocating peace in Vietnam in 1963.You’re uninformed. JFK changed dramatically while in the White House, from his days as a hardened cold warrior. He gave a speech not long before he was murdered, that people like you ignore. Guess what? It’s call the Peace Speech. He also was covertly negotiating with Khrushchev to end the Cold War. He was in constant disagreement with the JCS and many others in his administration who wanted war. He intended to pull out of Vietnam as soon as he was re-elected. All these things are ignored or minimized by people like you.Many disagree, but you wouldn’t know this.JFK would have followed the same path that LBJ did in VietnamHad JFK not been ruthlessly murdered by a cabal of criminals, we would have.We should have gotten out in 1964
He had the same advisors
Those who martyr JFK think he is incapable of making a wrong decision. Any President in 1965 would have done the same as LBJ. Nixon, Goldwater AND JFK would not have passed on an opportunity to fight communism. It would have ruined their careers
Then Diem was assassinated (three weeks before JFK) and the South went into turmoil. North Vietnam was on the verge of overtaking the South unless they received military aid.
LBJ wanted no part of putting American troops on the ground. But he was adamant that “Vietnam won’t turn communist on my watch” and his military advisers and Secretary of Defense MacNamara (same as LBJ had) all said we needed a few ground troops to turn back the tide and we would be home by Christmas.
LBJ took the bait. So would have JFK
LBJ had to deal with the fact that the military and MCNamara were liars, and he was on his own in trying to figure out fact from fiction; overall he did very well, and 3 years later the NLF was toast. Radicals here in the U.S. jumped to the defense of their Soviet heroes and ruined any chance to follow that up.
like I have said with many links and much proof in my other thread--unwinnable:"We were just wrong, both military leaders and civilian leaders, in failing to recognize the nature of the conflict and failing to recognize early on that the strategy we were following would not accomplish our objective," McNamara told the AP Radio Network
Convinced that the war was unwinnable,MCNAMARA: U.S. DIDN’T BELONG IN VIETNAM
Robert S. McNamara, a champion of the escalation of the Vietnam War as defense secretary under two presidents, says he has now concluded that the United States policy was wrong and that the nation …
