Kinzinger (R) talks with a guy who escaped MAGA

This is pretty interesting. This guy was a very active MAGA (podcaster, pundit, speaker, activist) and was able to escape. At the very beginning, he describes how he felt "politically lonely", and how MAGA gave him a feeling of belonging, and that "the devotion to Trump stems from the fact that he's the leader of this community". He also describes what we say here all the time, that "MAGA was my complete identity, my entire being and personhood was wrapped up in this community".

Really interesting interview, and again, it confirms what we say here all the time. His gradual awakening and escape are fascinating.


Way to propagate lies, dumbass. Then again, what was it your thoughts turned on Christmas Eve, *****?
You're a fucked-up agitprop shill.
Disgusting beguiler of a human being. We are not that same.
 
The border isn’t the only issue. Trump is also dismantling American education and the social safety net, which ironically will hurt his base harder than the Democrats.


You make a point. I address it serious and honestly, and instead of responding to my counterpoints, you move on to next attack.


This is a discussion forum and you are not discussing. You are just spouting negs.


As you and people like you spout in threads, you not only are not engaging, you are actively preventing other people from having real discussions by shouting them down and burying real points in your.... static.
 
"Illegal immigrants" and the fabricated crime rate attributed to them was only the opening salvo in this Fascist crackdown.
It didn't take long for that limited criterion to expand to include any immigrant, documented or not.
Then of course even that was stretched to include basically any non Anglo person who can now be arrested and detained and ultimately deported to a detention camp without due process.
Now, your typical MAGAt won't really give a shit about any of this stuff because "hey," you will say, "this doesn't affect ME or my family so....ho-hum...sucks to be "them.""
Right?
What you probably don't realize is that executive orders have now been issued to revoke the citizenship status of naturalized citizens on any government whim.
Donald Trump is now openly talking about illegally deporting political enemies aka people he doesn't like.
That could be YOU any day now. He doesn't need much of a reason.
You may think that YOU are safe because maybe you're white. Maybe you've been born and raised as an American.
That can all go away now.
Maybe you think you have these things called "constitutional rights?"
Well, that's questionable now.
This is how Fascism gets it's foot in the door; people like you thinking it's only going to affect other populations.

And of course, your claims are lies.
 
You make a point. I address it serious and honestly, and instead of responding to my counterpoints, you move on to next attack.


This is a discussion forum and you are not discussing. You are just spouting negs.


As you and people like you spout in threads, you not only are not engaging, you are actively preventing other people from having real discussions by shouting them down and burying real points in your.... static.
I will argue how I want. As long as you support a fascist, that’s what I’m going to be pointing out, not your points.
 
I will argue how I want. As long as you support a fascist, that’s what I’m going to be pointing out, not your points.
which is ...i will only answer questions that i feel safe answering....
 
I will argue how I want. As long as you support a fascist, that’s what I’m going to be pointing out, not your points.

Arguing implies a back and forth. YOu just spouting negs and never engaging is not an argument, but you... filibustering.

Is this a discussion forum or a filibustering forum?
 
Arguing implies a back and forth. YOu just spouting negs and never engaging is not an argument, but you... filibustering.

Is this a discussion forum or a filibustering forum?
gee konrad another who says you dont answer questions...
 
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Arguing implies a back and forth. YOu just spouting negs and never engaging is not an argument, but you... filibustering.

Is this a discussion forum or a filibustering forum?
That’s merely your opinion. I believe I’ve engaged, when appropriate. However, if a post is riddled with lies, I’ll point it out and move on. Life is too short to address MAGA screeds on every point.
 
which is ...i will only answer questions that i feel safe answering....
False. I’ll point out Trump/MAGA fascism and call out posters for accepting it. Until that’s settled, your petty concerns about my posting style is irrelevant. MAGA can’t justify trump’s actions, so they have to pretend it’s a problem with me.
 
That’s merely your opinion. I believe I’ve engaged, when appropriate. However, if a post is riddled with lies, I’ll point it out and move on. Life is too short to address MAGA screeds on every point.

It is not opinon. You made a claim about immigration. I pointed out, correctly that you libs don't want to see immigration law enforced better, but that you want to see it NOT enforced and for the border to be effectively open.


You ignored that counter point and moved on to next attack.

That is not an argument or a discussion. That is you just spouting, ie FILIBUSTERING.

That is not my opinion, that is your behavior and me commenting on it.
 
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