"Kilmar Abrego Garcia is alive and secure but is under the sovereign, domestic authority of El Salvador"

[Polishprince]

If El Salvador refuses to return an innocent prisoner…..Why is Trump still sending prisoners?
Why is he paying them?

How do you know Garcia is "innocent"?

I'd say the Tremendous Country of El Salvador is in a lot better situation to determine this fellow's innocence or guilt than anyone in this country.

 

[Marener]

I have no idea, the fact they are detaining him would suggest that. But I don’t know the laws there.
I do know he was here illegally and ordered to be deported

Why would you assume he’s being charged with a crime in a country he hasn’t been in 14 years?

 

[rightwinger]

How do you know Garcia is "innocent"?

I'd say the Tremendous Country of El Salvador is in a lot better situation to determine this fellow's innocence or guilt than anyone in this country.

Because he is innocent until proven guilty

 

[struth]

Why would you assume he’s being charged with a crime in a country he hasn’t been in 14 years?

Cause they haven’t released him

Maybe that’s why he came here illegally, cause he was escaping his criminal past.

In fact one of the things he tried to argue in his failed asylum petition was that a rival gang was after him

 

[Marener]

Cause they haven’t released him

Maybe that’s why he came here illegally, cause he was escaping his criminal past.

In fact one of the things he tried to argue in his failed asylum petition was that a rival gang was after him

You think they’re prosecuting a criminal case from 14 years ago?

Or are they just keeping him in jail without due process because they don’t respect human rights?

 

[Meathead]

Human rights?

He has whatever rights his country affords him. I admit, I'm not terribly self-righteous.

 

[Lesh]

Look at you - wrong again:

“If they want to return him, we would facilitate it, meaning provide a plane,” Attorney General Pam Bondi said Monday during an Oval Office meeting between Trump and Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele.

Opinion | The Trump administration says it can’t return Kilmar Abrego Garcia. That’s false.

It wouldn’t take much pressure to bring him home. That the administration hasn’t tried speaks volumes.

www.msnbc.com

Facilitation, met.

The Supreme Court meant more than “provide a plane”

 

[Polishprince]

Because he is innocent until proven guilty

I don't know El Salvadorian law on this matter, but if he is as truly innocent in this regard, I'm sure he'll be released.

But not until.

 

[Lesh]

Because Garcia is indeed a member of MS 13, so he qualifies for residency at CECOT.

The El Salvadorians know their own ne'er-do-wells.

If Garcia was as innocent as libs say he is, Presidente Bukele wouldn't keep him in CECOT.

He would be either released into the general El Salvadorian population if innocent, or if he was an ordinary, non-gang miscreant, he would have been transferred to a regular penitentiary.

President Bukele is being PAID by the Trump Admin to keep him in jail

 

[struth]

You think they’re prosecuting a criminal case from 14 years ago?

Or are they just keeping him in jail without due process because they don’t respect human rights?

I have no idea how their courts work. I know in the United States we routinely prosecute fugitives…

El Salvador is certainly a shithole country that was overwhelmed with terrorist

Under the current regimes crackdown on terrorist, the non criminals have enjoyed an unprecedented renewal of enjoying life, and liberty…according to Xiden’s state department report

 

[struth]

President Bukele is being PAID by the Trump Admin to keep him in jail

Correct we gave them foreign aid to help them fight terrorism and take back some of their terrorist that escaped and illegally came here

 

[struth]

The Supreme Court meant more than “provide a plane”

All the said was they had to make it easier

They have done that

 

[Lesh]

Look at you - wrong again:

“If they want to return him, we would facilitate it, meaning provide a plane,” Attorney General Pam Bondi said Monday during an Oval Office meeting between Trump and Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele.

Opinion | The Trump administration says it can’t return Kilmar Abrego Garcia. That’s false.

It wouldn’t take much pressure to bring him home. That the administration hasn’t tried speaks volumes.

www.msnbc.com

Facilitation, met.

And as your link noted, if Trump can get away with this, they can do this to anyone they want… citizens… journalists… anyone

And Oh yeah… Trump has indicated his willingness TO do this to American citizens

 

[Lesh]

All the said was they had to make it easier

They have done that

Facilitate… get it done.

At the very least stop paying El Salvador for his incarceration

 

[Marener]

I have no idea how their courts work. I know in the United States we routinely prosecute fugitives…

El Salvador is certainly a shithole country that was overwhelmed with terrorist

Under the current regimes crackdown on terrorist, the non criminals have enjoyed an unprecedented renewal of enjoying life, and liberty…according to Xiden’s state department report

El Salvador has seen a serious loss of liberty.

Repression and regression of human rights in El Salvador

Policies, practices, and abusive, arbitrary legislation threaten civic space

www.amnesty.org

Authoritarians like Trump love authoritarians like Bukele.

 

[Lesh]

I have no idea how their courts work. I know in the United States we routinely prosecute fugitives…

El Salvador is certainly a shithole country that was overwhelmed with terrorist

Under the current regimes crackdown on terrorist, the non criminals have enjoyed an unprecedented renewal of enjoying life, and liberty…according to Xiden’s state department report

“According to…”

Bwahahaha

 

[struth]

And as your link noted, if Trump can get away with this, they can do this to anyone they want… citizens… journalists… anyone

And Oh yeah… Trump has indicated his willingness TO do this to American citizens

Get away with what?

I mean if you want to campaign on returning illegal aliens that have been deported, go for it

 

[struth]

“According to…”

Bwahahaha

Yes xiden’s state department

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Supreme Court meant more than “provide a plane”

You have absolutely no basis in fact for this statement.

The district court said to "facilitate and effectuate the return"
Note the use of two separate terms, with their distinctly different meanings.

The Supreme court said:
"The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release"
Offering an aircraft to bring him to the US meets this requirement.

 

[struth]

El Salvador has seen a serious loss of liberty.

Repression and regression of human rights in El Salvador

Policies, practices, and abusive, arbitrary legislation threaten civic space

www.amnesty.org

Authoritarians like Trump love authoritarians like Bukele.

Not according to Joey Xiden’s state department

It’s true that terrorist have