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And how? LOL.
In the same way as Moses. Face to face is just a metaphor indicating an intimate knowledge of God greater than that of other prophets who didn't know what their master was about.
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In the same way as Moses. Face to face is just a metaphor indicating an intimate knowledge of God greater than that of other prophets who didn't know what their master was about.
So nothing supernatural. This is just you paying back the religious in their own coin because your panties are in a wad.
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Obviously you have never seen and do not know neither God nor Jesus face to face.
Standing in the presence of almighty God should be a natural part of life and soon will be for almost everyone, just like nothing supernatural is happening during any metamorphosis.
Becoming a new creature.
Almost everyone.
Lost souls like you will be crawling on your belly eating dust the lowest of all human lifeforms cackling at your own pathetic aberrations like the hopelessly insane till kingdom come.
Thats the way the cookie crumbles.
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And nothing supernatural at all, right? God is just an imaginary friend, right?
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You are on your own pal. You are all hat and no cattle. No one knows this better than you.
Have a nice day!
So if God is just an imaginary friend, then what's wrong with idols? Why does your imaginary friend care about idols? Is your imaginary friend the jealous type?
This is me paying you back in your own coin.
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LOL.. You are shooting blanks. Making an embarrassing spectacle of yourself. Loser. That you remain so UNAWARE of what is actually happening is evidence of the mercy of my God.
We've been over this so many times.
You judge and ridicule Jesus giving his Apostles bread, saying this is my Body, eat - and then passing the cup, telling them, this is my blood, drink - it will be given up for you.
The bread is his ministry, teachings, knowledge and wisdom that becomes his body once they eat it. (and understand it)
The wine are his works, deeds, actions and miracles - they become his blood once they drink (and do it).
His own Apostles did not fully grasp such concepts - doubting and questioning him until the end. Allowing Judas to betray him and for Peter to deny him.
His Apostles could not overcome their fear and ignorance - for the darkness of the world was more than they could bear.
They doubted - allowing his teachings to be misconstrued, misunderstood, judged, condemned and ridiculed by both their friends and enemies.
John 3:
“And the judgment is this:
the light has come into the world,
but people preferred darkness to light
because their deeds were evil.
20 Everyone who does evil hates the light
and avoids coming near the light
so that his misdeeds may not be exposed.
21.However, whoever lives by the truth
comes to the light
so that it may be clearly seen
that his deeds have been done
in God.”
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You might want to notice that according to the gospel of John Jesus spoke about eating his flesh and drinking his blood clearly explaining the metaphor to his disciples before the last supper but during the last supper Judas was the only one given bread dipped in wine as a way for Jesus to secretly reveal his betrayer to the others which says something about you.
"AS SOON AS JUDAS RECEIVED THE BREAD SATAN ENTERED HIM." John 13:27
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The Gospel of John is an enlightened work.
That said - I tend to lean more on what was written in the Gospel of Mark (Oldest written Gospel 37 AD).
Jesus would never condemn a person before they committed the physical act - his entire ministry taught otherwise. One has a choice until one no longer has a choice.
Mark 14:
The Treachery of Judas Foretold. Now when evening came, he arrived with the Twelve. 18. And as they reclined at table and were eating, Jesus said, “Amen, I say to you, one of you will betray me, one who is eating with me.” 19. On hearing this they began to be distressed and to say to him, one after another, “Is it I?”
20. He said to them, “It is one of the Twelve, one who is dipping bread into the bowl with me. 21. For the Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would be better for that man if he had never been born.”
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Exactly! So remember that Jesus gave bread to Judas as a way to identify his betrayer, during the last supper according to this enlightened work. This is no small discrepancy.
"AND AS SOON AS JUDAS RECEIVED THE BREAD SATAN ENTERED HIM." John 13:27
"Woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would be better for that man if he had never been born."
How is it that even now you still don't know the only right course to take, faithless steward?
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His betrayer is identified in all 4 Gospels. There is a very specific type of demeanor and wording Jesus had and used - and it manifests itself as the living word to those aware of who Jesus was and what he actually taught.
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But only Judas was given bread during the last supper according to the Gospel of John. So which is it? Did Jesus give bread to everyone during the last supper as a test instituting a bizarre eating of the mangod ritual or was it only given to Judas?
AS A WAY FOR JESUS TO IDENTIFY HIS BETRAYER.
It can't be both. Or maybe it is.
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that is jesus that refuted judaism - false commandments, hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid. claimed heavenly personifications that never occurred as abraham et al - hitler and trump are one in the same for their appeal to desert dwellers as yourself w/ the meek your most prominent victims.
provide the commandment tablets from the heavens you claim and use to persecute and victimize the innocent.
It was the "bread dipped" or the "one dipping his bread in the bowl with him"
YES, Jesus passed the bread to his Apostles - read the entire passages.
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No.
Jesus only gave bread to Judas. To identify his betrayer. Read the entire passage yourself.
The only mention of eating flesh and drinking blood was before the last supper according to John which Jesus explained was a metaphor for accepting his WORDS and acting on it.
You dicking around with bread and wine in church identifies you as the betrayer. Ask Jesus.
Now you have to make a choice between a blessing or a curse, a choice between life and death. But on a more personal level I really don't give a shit what you choose. Life or death.
Thats all on you pal. You no longer have any excuse for your sins and to continue to sin is to make evil and all of its known and unknown consequences an informed deliberate choice.
My hands have been washed clean.
So now you transfigured from Jesus to Pontious Pilate, eh? That's some heavy sorcery right there.
Mark 14:
22. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take it; this is my body.”
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