keys to the kingdom

[hobelim]

He wasn't born in October, He was born in the spring, when shepherds were out in the fields with their flocks. It would be too cold to be out in the winter.

Thats your response?

Winter? The temperature during October in Israel ranges from 68 to 86 degrees Fahrenheit.



Damn.

 

[hadit]

hadit here's something to consider. If Jesus was just passing coded messages to rebels and the rebels were defeated in 70 AD during the Roman siege on the temple, then why is this guy quoting Jesus on matters of Jewish law instead? Why would he be quoting Jesus at all? The supposed rebel leader got crucified and the rebellion which didn't happen for another 40 years failed.

This is quite true. We know there were multiple people around at the time who claimed to be the Messiah and lead efforts to overthrow the Roman occupation. They were quickly killed and their followers dispersed. No one talks about them today. Jesus, OTOH, was completely different. He didn't try to overthrow Rome at all, which meant Rome didn't really care to go after Him. Through this whole thing we can see just how impactful Jesus is, as those who you'd normally think would just ignore Him cannot control their need to comment on Him.

 

[hobelim]

Yes, it would be for just a Jewish man.

 

[ding]

So did whoever wrote the book of revelation and predicated the rise of your Roman church dedicated to the worship of the Antichrist. But I know, thats too hard for a makebeliever to believe.

Revelation has nothing to do with this. Batshit crazy religious fundamentalist read Revelation. Revelation is about the fall of the Roman Empire, not the rise of the Catholic Church.

Antichrists are anyone who try to lead others away from Christ using deception. That's why they are called anti - christs. There can be millions of anti-christs. You are an anti-christ.

 

[ding]

But I know, thats too hard for a makebeliever to believe.

That's rich coming from you. You think the gospels are make beleive.

 

[hadit]

This is such a funny thread. Jesus sending coded messages for a rebellion - that wasn't going to happen for another 40 years - through Gospels that weren't written until 30 years after the rebellion.

That's what happens why you throw out Scripture as it's written and substitute your own narrative. You forget things, claim things that aren't true, and ultimately contradict yourself. It's something that fiction writers have to continually be careful about, did they just completely contradict something they said a few pages ago? In this guy's case, he doesn't even make it a few pages.

 

[hadit]

And yet again, your spiritual influence is shown to be......Youtube.

 

[hobelim]

Revelation has nothing to do with this.

After this I saw ANOTHER angel coming down from heaven; he came with great power and authority and the earth was lit up with his brilliance. Then in a mighty voice he proclaimed FALLEN is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling for demons, a haunt for every unclean spirit, for every vile and loathsome beast and bird. For all "the nations" have drunk deep of the FIERCE WINE OF HER FORNICATION; The kings of the earth have committed FORNICATION with her, and merchants the world over have become rich on her bloated wealth.



Then I heard another voice from heaven that said; "Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins and share in her plagues. For her sins are piled high as heaven, and God has not forgotten her crimes. Pay her back in her own coin, repay her twice over for her deeds! Double for her the strength of the potion she mixed! ..... Revelation 18:2-6

 

[ding]

Where are all those coded messages of war plans? That is what you said Jesus was doing, right? He was leading a rebellion against Rome, right?

So why in the hell are you talking about everything else but that?

This is a target rich OP.

 

[ding]

After this I saw ANOTHER angel coming down from heaven; he came with great power and authority and the earth was lit up with his brilliance. Then in a mighty voice he proclaimed FALLEN is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling for demons, a haunt for every unclean spirit, for every vile and loathsome beast and bird. For all "the nations" have drunk deep of the FIERCE WINE OF HER FORNICATION; The kings of the earth have committed FORNICATION with her, and merchants the world over have become rich on her bloated wealth.



Then I heard another voice from heaven that said; "Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins and share in her plagues. For her sins are piled high as heaven, and God has not forgotten her crimes. Pay her back in her own coin, repay her twice over for her deeds! Double for her the strength of the potion she mixed! ..... Revelation 18:2-6

Mumbo jumbo magic talk. Where are the war plans of Jesus?

 

[ding]

After this I saw ANOTHER angel coming down from heaven; he came with great power and authority and the earth was lit up with his brilliance. Then in a mighty voice he proclaimed FALLEN is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling for demons, a haunt for every unclean spirit, for every vile and loathsome beast and bird. For all "the nations" have drunk deep of the FIERCE WINE OF HER FORNICATION; The kings of the earth have committed FORNICATION with her, and merchants the world over have become rich on her bloated wealth.



Then I heard another voice from heaven that said; "Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins and share in her plagues. For her sins are piled high as heaven, and God has not forgotten her crimes. Pay her back in her own coin, repay her twice over for her deeds! Double for her the strength of the potion she mixed! ..... Revelation 18:2-6

You sound like a babbling Westboro Baptist. What's next rounding up some homosexuals?

 

[hobelim]

Mumbo jumbo magic talk. Where are the war plans of Jesus?

You think what was written in revelation is mumbo jumbo? Who knew? Thanks for sharing!

 

[ding]

That's what happens why you throw out Scripture as it's written and substitute your own narrative. You forget things, claim things that aren't true, and ultimately contradict yourself. It's something that fiction writers have to continually be careful about, did they just completely contradict something they said a few pages ago? In this guy's case, he doesn't even make it a few pages.

We got hobelim chasing his tail. I wonder how much more he can take.

 

[ding]

So you think what was written in revelation is mumbo jumbo? Who knew? Thanks for sharing!

Yeah, I think an atheist spouting out of context scripture is mumbo jumbo magic. It doesn't get any better than... Jesus sending coded messages for a rebellion - that wasn't going to happen for another 40 years - through Gospels that weren't written until 30 years after the rebellion.

 

[ding]

You think what was written in revelation is mumbo jumbo? Who knew? Thanks for sharing!

Are you going to cry?

 

[hadit]

We got hobelim chasing his tail. I wonder how much more he can take.

I think I've already broken him, it's just a matter of time. We're already seeing an increase in the incoherence.

 

[hobelim]

I think I've already broken him

Sure. The Mothra comment was devastating! I don't think I can go on! Woe is me!

 

[ding]

Sure. The Mothra comment was devastating! I don't think I can go on! Woe is me!

Jesus sending coded messages for a rebellion - that wasn't going to happen for another 40 years - through Gospels that weren't written until 30 years after the rebellion. Great story.

 

[hobelim]

Jesus sending coded messages for a rebellion - that wasn't going to happen for another 40 years - through Gospels that weren't written until 30 years after the rebellion. Great story.

Great story, that you just made up.

The sword that Jesus said he came to bring was a curse under the appearance of a cup of wine that he sent through the nations creating worldwide desolation for thousands of years.

Still works like a charm. Dead "believers" like you and hadit prove how effective it remains.

Now you know.

Remember.

He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword. I'm a believer.

 

[hadit]

Sure. The Mothra comment was devastating! I don't think I can go on! Woe is me!

It's what was deserved. Now that all of your assertions are getting demolished, what are you going to switch to?