Kerry to declare himself winner!

[ChrisH]

John Kerry has said today that he will declare himself winner if he loses in a close election to Bush.

I don't know about you all, but Kerry says more and more everyday to make me despise him even more. How ridiculous is that statement?

 

[nakedemperor]

I love that emoticon...look how angry he looks!

 

[ChrisH]

I will try to find a link of the story on the internet. I heard it on the news, CNN I believe, this evening.

 

[Avatar4321]

Here http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/20/kerry.day.after.ap/index.html

 

[Avatar4321]

Apparently they seem to think Gore's problem was he didnt declare victory. Maybe thats because at no time he was a winner. But no they are under the messed up assumption that Gore won and just didnt declare it.

I am so ready to see Bush win in a huge landslide and watch Kerry declare victory. The american people will be like what the heck do you think your doing? are you stupid?

 

[MJDuncan1982]

Apparently they seem to think Gore's problem was he didnt declare victory. Maybe thats because at no time he was a winner. But no they are under the messed up assumption that Gore won and just didnt declare it.

I am so ready to see Bush win in a huge landslide and watch Kerry declare victory. The american people will be like what the heck do you think your doing? are you stupid?

That was the problem with Gore. Gore let Bush declare sole victory thus meaning that, barring a recount, Bush won.

 

[Zhukov]

Barring a second, cherry picked, recount you mean.

 

[MJDuncan1982]

Barring a second, cherry picked, recount you mean.

No, Florida was originally called for Gore. His advisors should have told him to declare victory and then any subsequent changes in the count would be 'against the norm'.

 

[Zhukov]

There was a vote. It was within 1% (in favor of Gov. Bush). That triggered a recount. That narrowed the margin but still favored Gov. Bush. Vice Pres. Gore requested a second recount, by hand, in selected locations.

Whether or not it was called for Vice Pres. Gore is irrelevant.

Edit: .5% not 1%

 

[ChrisH]

There was a vote. It was within 1% (in favor of Gov. Bush). That triggered a recount. That narrowed the margin but still favored Gov. Bush. Vice Pres. Gore requested a second recount, by hand, in selected locations.

Whether or not it was called for Vice Pres. Gore is irrelevant.

Edit: .5% not 1%

Exactly. Just because the media calls a state as being won by a specific candidate, doesn't mean that candidate can 'declare victory', and after that other votes would be 'against the norm'. If all of the votes are not in, or have not been counted, then they have to be counted and completed before the state can be 'officially' declared.

I understand the mistake of conceding early, not waiting to see if the state switches from one side to the other, but in 2000 the media prematurely assumed, before all votes were in, that Gore won the state. Considering how close the vote was, this was a blooper by the media. But I don't see how Kerry can just declare himself victor, if the election is close and Bush clearly won the state, all votes in. It sounds like Kerry is ready to drag this thing on after Nov. 2. I hope for this reason that the election is not close and Bush wins, hands down.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I think the media is going to very leery of calling a race in any particular state this time around unless it is a clear win since they got burned the last time around.

This should make it pretty hard for Kerry to call a win if the media doesn't.

 

[theim]

No shame. No shame at all. They seem almost proud of the fact that even if they lose they will mount false allegations of voter fraud and unlesah 10,000 lawyers to litigate Kerry's way to the White House.

 

[Avatar4321]

No, Florida was originally called for Gore. His advisors should have told him to declare victory and then any subsequent changes in the count would be 'against the norm'.

Um no MJ. There was no point in which Al Gore ever won Florida. Hence there was no point in time Al Gore could have declared victory. Simply because the media put Florida in the Gore column based on polls taken before the polls were even closed in Florida does not mean that Al Gore at any point had a lead.

The fact is Bush won the original count. Which triggered a recount. After two recounts, Bush was still in the lead and Gore wanted his own personal hand picked recount. And he went to court to prevent the certification of the previous three counts so he could run an illegal recount.

The idea that Al Gore could have declared victory when he never won a single solitary count in Florida is ridiculous.

 

[5stringJeff]

And Bush is up by a healthy margin in all FL polls... 2-4%. There will be no FL debacle this year.

 

[Flying Duck]

Geez, why doesn't Kerry just decalre victory now?

He is going to look like such a RICHARD if he tires to pull this off. I suppose he thinks the USSC based their decision on whether Gore said he won or not.

 

[Shattered]

Can I declare myself Queen for a day, then?

 

[no1tovote4]

Then I just won the Presidency!







You're too late Kerry! :teeth:

I have already won! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[fuzzykitten99]

No, Florida was originally called for Gore. His advisors should have told him to declare victory and then any subsequent changes in the count would be 'against the norm'.

i don't understand why you liberals can't get it through your heads...there are 2 time zones in FL. Central and Eastern. The newstations that supposedly 'announced' that Gore won, are based on the Eastern time zone, meaning NY, DC, etc. They 'forgot' that the polls were open for another hour in the central time zone of FL. Then there was the whole issue with the way that the cards had been punched. Gore NEVER really won. Even the Supreme Court, which at the time was made up of mostly liberal judges, declared Bush the winner. It was very close, but the liberals just can't seem to fathom that they lost.

 

[phadras]

John Kerry has said today that he will declare himself winner if he loses in a close election to Bush.

I don't know about you all, but Kerry says more and more everyday to make me despise him even more. How ridiculous is that statement?

Geeeez the Dems just keep moving further and further off the deep end... Hope they don't take us all with them.. Vote Bush, Vote Early, Vote often.......

 

[Freedom Lover]

My impression of Kerry and the Dems keeps getting stronger that they are desperate for power for the sake of having power. They have campaigned on the same issues for the last 40 years, or more. They have not really solved any of these problems over the forty years they controlled Congress. To continue to campaign on the same issues time after time only tells me their aim is not really to solve anything but make more people dependent upon government in order to assure their power.

The thing that really has my concern is that the dems have somewhat succeeded in convincing lower income people that government is the answer to their problems, though history is now showing that it is not, and now they are going after the middle class to try and convince them that government can solve their problems better than they can themselves. If this is allowed to happen the steady march toward socialism, promulgated by Kerry and the dems, will continue. This makes them dangerous to freedom loving people in this country, and others who look to us to help them be free, as well.

Kerry and the dems are so desperate to win they are turning this election into something you would expect in a banana republic. Is this really the kind of people you can trust to govern? They are willing to sacrifice the integrity of our election process, and to do untold damage to it in order to gain power.