Kennedy, Reagan, Obama. A snap shot of leadership

[JRK]

One said "ask not what your country can do for you?

then this guy
20 Great Quotes From Ronald Reagan - Listverse

One:
A people free to choose will always choose peace.

2. Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today’s world do not have.

3. Democracy is worth dying for, because it’s the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man.

4. Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

5. How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

2
Quotes 6 – 10


6. Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders.

7. It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first.

8. We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.

9. I call upon the scientific community in our country, those who gave us nuclear weapons, to turn their great talents now to the cause of mankind and world peace: to give us the means of rendering these nuclear weapons impotent and obsolete.

10. There is no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn’t mind who gets the credit.

And of course there is this guy
Obama Hasn?t Been Divisive? You Can?t Be Serious | Right Wing News

Called American businesses soft and lazy and said they’d lost their ambition; they didn’t build that; they need to up their game.

–Baselessly accused the Chamber of Commerce of accepting foreign contributions and said it had the burden of proving it did not.

–Said Mitt Romney, in effect, killed a lady who lost her insurance.

–Say the “wealthy” aren’t paying their fair share.

–Stepped on the conscience protections of people of faith and attacked a Lutheran school’s right to hire and fire on religious grounds.

–Use “gay rights” as a wedge issue and depict opponents of same-sex marriage as bigots.

–Manufactured a phony GOP “War on Women.”

–Say Republicans want dirty air and dirty water and rejoice when people lose their insurance coverage, that they want a smaller America and don’t believe in rebuilding roads and bridges, that they are hostage takers and Slurpee sippers. He says they created this mess, and they should sit in the backseat of the car. We’ll have hand-to-hand combat with them on Capitol Hill, and if they bring a knife, we’ll bring a gun.

–Crammed Obamacare down the throats of a strongly opposed majority.

–Continue to scare seniors, the “middle class” and the “poor” into believing Republicans want to destroy Medicare.

–Publicly ridiculed and demonized the Supreme Court on multiple occasions.

–Disparaged hedge fund managers as “playing with other people’s money.”

–Vilified immigration enforcement advocates as racists.

–Waged a war against states on immigration and voter ID laws.

–Worked against military ballots.

–Lawlessly rewrote loans in the GM and Chrysler restructurings to favor unions and cheat secured creditors; and in Solyndra, to subordinate taxpayers to private investors.

–Exploited race and minority relations for political purposes and for ideological reasons, including Eric Holder calling the nation cowards on race, racializing voter intimidation laws and saying the GOP was after him on Fast and Furious because he, like Obama, is an African American; appealing to Hispanics and blacks to vote as a bloc for Democrats because Democrats are their friends and Republicans their enemies; and accusing the GOP of supporting voter ID laws to suppress the minority vote and immigration laws for racial reasons.

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Its just the truth Liberals
this is your hero
Kennedy was a blue dog, who was 100 times the leader BHO is
Reagan? what a man and what a leader
Obama?
It is a non atop war on the GOP, the Conservative and of course he never allows a crises go to waste

 

[Lumpy 1]

Your OP is more than a tad too long, most Democrats interest/comprehension only lasts the length of a slogan...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Thread of the Year!

 

[Greenbeard]

–Continue to scare seniors, the “middle class” and the “poor” into believing Republicans want to destroy Medicare.

Medicare is a good cross-cutting issue because their three presidencies are arguably the most important ones to Medicare.

Kennedy campaigned on Medicare, he cut commercials for it, and he took his case to the people:

This [Medicare] bill serves the public interest. It involves the Government because it involves the public welfare. The Constitution of the United States did not make the President or the Congress powerless. It gave them definite responsibilities to advance the general welfare - and that is what we're attempting to do.

And then I read that this bill will sap the individual self-reliance of Americans. I can't imagine anything worse, or anything better, to sap someone's self-reliance, than to be sick, alone, broke--or to have saved for a lifetime and put it out in a week, two weeks, a month, two months.

Kennedy didn't live to see Medicare pass (it was defeated in its first vote in 1962) but of course it was enacted only a few years after his death.

Meanwhile, Reagan, as one of the AMA's cheap propagandists, argued in 1961 that Medicare would be the end of American society.

If you don’t, this program [Medicare] I promise you, will pass just as surely as the sun will come up tomorrow and behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country until one day as Normal Thomas said we will wake to find that we have socialism, and if you don’t do this and I don’t do this, one of these days we are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children, what it once was like in America when men were free.

Turns out it wasn't and is, in fact, wildly popular. By 1980 Reagan had seen the light, and retconned his own history in a presidential debate:

MR. REAGAN: When I opposed Medicare, there was another piece of legislation meeting the same problem before the Congress. I happened to favor the other piece of legislation and thought that it would be better for the senior citizens and provide better care than the one that was finally passed. I was not opposing the principle of providing care for them. I was opposing one piece of legislation versus another.

He was always for government programs to insure the elderly! But his about-face more or less stuck and as president he helped to save Medicare by making it a price-setter (seemingly antithetical to his economic philosophy).

And now, particularly amid the GOP's newfound confidence is pushing their scheme to chop Medicare up and sell it off, Obama has emerged as its chief defender and reformer. Thus far his administration is notable for a series of Medicare reforms that are already improving Medicare's financial health.

This new law recognizes that Medicare isn’t just something that you’re entitled to when you reach 65; it’s something that you’ve earned. It’s something that you’ve worked a lifetime for, having the security of knowing that Medicare will be there when you need it. It’s a sacred and inviolable trust between you and your country. And those of us in elected office have a commitment to uphold that trust – and as long as I’m President, I will.

And that’s why this new law gives seniors and their families greater savings, better benefits and higher-quality health care. That’s why it ensures accountability throughout the system so that seniors have greater control over the care that they receive. And that’s why it keeps Medicare strong and solvent – today and tomorrow.

So I suppose there were indeed some similarities in their leadership styles.

 

[JRK]

–Continue to scare seniors, the “middle class” and the “poor” into believing Republicans want to destroy Medicare.

Medicare is a good cross-cutting issue because their three presidencies are arguably the most important ones to Medicare.

Kennedy campaigned on Medicare, he cut commercials for it, and he took his case to the people:

This [Medicare] bill serves the public interest. It involves the Government because it involves the public welfare. The Constitution of the United States did not make the President or the Congress powerless. It gave them definite responsibilities to advance the general welfare - and that is what we're attempting to do.

And then I read that this bill will sap the individual self-reliance of Americans. I can't imagine anything worse, or anything better, to sap someone's self-reliance, than to be sick, alone, broke--or to have saved for a lifetime and put it out in a week, two weeks, a month, two months.

Kennedy didn't live to see Medicare pass (it was defeated in its first vote in 1962) but of course it was enacted only a few years after his death.

Meanwhile, Reagan, as one of the AMA's cheap propagandists, argued in 1961 that Medicare would be the end of American society.


Turns out it wasn't and is, in fact, wildly popular. By 1980 Reagan had seen the light, and retconned his own history in a presidential debate:

MR. REAGAN: When I opposed Medicare, there was another piece of legislation meeting the same problem before the Congress. I happened to favor the other piece of legislation and thought that it would be better for the senior citizens and provide better care than the one that was finally passed. I was not opposing the principle of providing care for them. I was opposing one piece of legislation versus another.

He was always for government programs to insure the elderly! But his about-face more or less stuck and as president he helped to save Medicare by making it a price-setter (seemingly antithetical to his economic philosophy).

And now, particularly amid the GOP's newfound confidence is pushing their scheme to chop Medicare up and sell it off, Obama has emerged as its chief defender and reformer. Thus far his administration is notable for a series of Medicare reforms that are already improving Medicare's financial health.

This new law recognizes that Medicare isn’t just something that you’re entitled to when you reach 65; it’s something that you’ve earned. It’s something that you’ve worked a lifetime for, having the security of knowing that Medicare will be there when you need it. It’s a sacred and inviolable trust between you and your country. And those of us in elected office have a commitment to uphold that trust – and as long as I’m President, I will.

And that’s why this new law gives seniors and their families greater savings, better benefits and higher-quality health care. That’s why it ensures accountability throughout the system so that seniors have greater control over the care that they receive. And that’s why it keeps Medicare strong and solvent – today and tomorrow.

So I suppose there were indeed some similarities in their leadership styles.

Really?
from the CBO
According to the CBO, the payment cuts in Medicare include:
A $260 billion payment cut for hospital services.
A $39 billion payment cut for skilled nursing services.
A $17 billion payment cut for hospice services.
A $66 billion payment cut for home health services.
A $33 billion payment cut for all other services.
A $156 billion cut in payment rates in Medicare Advantage (MA); $156 billion is before considering interactions with other provisions. The House Ways and Means Committee was able to include interactions with other provisions, estimating the cuts to MA to be even higher, coming in at $308 billion.
$56 billion in cuts for disproportionate share hospital (DSH) payments.* DSH payments go to hospitals that serve a large number of low-income patients.
$114 billion in other provisions pertaining to Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP* (does not include coverage-related provisions).

Obamacare Robs Medicare of $716 Billion to Fund Itself

more from the CBO, where do these people get there ins in the future?
Seven million will lose insurance under Obama health law - Washington Times
how many of those people will end up on medicare/govt funded ins?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Complete nonsense

 

[Joe Steel]

Its just the truth Liberals
this is your hero
Kennedy was a blue dog, who was 100 times the leader BHO is
Reagan? what a man and what a leader
Obama?
It is a non atop war on the GOP, the Conservative and of course he never allows a crises go to waste

Reagan was good at delivering lines someone else wrote. He was an adequate actor playing a second-rate president.

 

[JRK]

Complete nonsense

you reasons as to why it is nonsense are impressive
Typical leftie response
just dent the facts, but give no reason why

BHO only care about his far left socialist agenda
we had a negative GDP last 1/4 2012
He is focused on Amnesty and blaming the GOP on his trillion dollar deficits for each year of the last 4

 

[TheOldSchool]

we had a negative GDP last 1/4 2012
He is focused on Amnesty and blaming the GOP on his trillion dollar deficits for each year of the last 4

I see he has a lot more in common with Reagan than I thought.

 

[Godboy]

Its just the truth Liberals
this is your hero
Kennedy was a blue dog, who was 100 times the leader BHO is
Reagan? what a man and what a leader
Obama?
It is a non atop war on the GOP, the Conservative and of course he never allows a crises go to waste

Reagan was good at delivering lines someone else wrote. He was an adequate actor playing a second-rate president.

Yet amazingly hes still 1000 times better than any democrat to ever hold office. Reagan is easilly in the top 3 presidents of all time. By the way, if you put Obamas name at the begining of your post, THEN it actually makes sense.

 

[JRK]

Its just the truth Liberals
this is your hero
Kennedy was a blue dog, who was 100 times the leader BHO is
Reagan? what a man and what a leader
Obama?
It is a non atop war on the GOP, the Conservative and of course he never allows a crises go to waste

Reagan was good at delivering lines someone else wrote. He was an adequate actor playing a second-rate president.

whats that make BHO then?
Private Jobs Down 4.6 Million From January 2008; Federal Jobs Up 11.4%
4 million short of 2008 levels with more spending than any president ever by 100s of billions each year
and
Reaganomics Vs. Obamanomics: Facts And Figures - Forbes
Ronald Reagan R 1981–1985 +5,322 +6,552 +1.43% +1.75%
Ronald Reagan R 1985–1989 +10,780 +10,303 +2.69% +2.53%


Barack Obama D 2008–2012
(through Sept 2012) -1,152

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

15 million jobs created in private sector for RR
none for BHO
really?
Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[S.J.]

Reagan's face will eventually be on Mt. Rushmore.

 

[JRK]

It amazes me the liberal is so out of touch
RR did more good for this country in his first year than BHO will ever do, In fact Obama would have done us all a favor if he just did nothing
It is not personal

Like the thread states
He is no leader

 

[JRK]

the budget has grown 1 trillion dollars in 4 years
the rate of growth only slows with the sequestration
and there he is claiming that people will go hungry
the GOP is to blame
the media is lying right along
it is so sad
another example of no leadership