Keeping Trump off the ballot disenfranchises NO ONE

[meaner gene]

Why not just nominate someone who can defeat him?

You could make the same argument if a charismatic, phenomenally popular 30 year old wanted to run for president. That you should let them run, and be beaten by the ballot, and not by the constitution.
In effect, to have an election victory, override the Constitution.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump lost 302 to 233 EV, and he got only 48.7% of the vote.

 

[Billiejeens]

You could say the same of a 33 year old. That they have to be taken to court and it PROVED in a court of law, that they're 33 years old. Maybe the supreme court has to make that determination before it would hold?

Same for the natural born citizen requirement. Or the 14 years resident in the USA, No matter now much proof there is to the contrary, "due process" requires it go to the supreme court.

Right?

Apples and airplanes

Age
Birthplace
Those are immutable.

 

[Crick]

No, the "insurrection" fantasy is in liberals heads, along with orange man doing the waltz 24/7. The obsession libs have with orange man is simply astounding.

As of July of last year:

Criminal charges:

• Approximately 350 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 110 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
  • Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60 from the Metropolitan Police Department.
• Approximately 11 individuals have been arrested on a series of charges that relate to assaulting a member of the media, or destroying their equipment, on Jan. 6.
• Approximately 935 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. Of those, 103 defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.
• Approximately 61 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 49 defendants have been charged with theft of government property.
• More than 310 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
• Approximately 55 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.

 

[Crick]

As soon as some state DQs Biden, you will scream bloody murder.

For what do you believe they will disqualify him?

 

[M14 Shooter]

As of July of last year:
Criminal charges:

How many people have been charged with the crime of insurrection?

 

[Crick]

Apparently, it just needs a determination by a secretary of state.
Thus, nothing prevents, say, the PA secretary of state from disqualifying Biden.

They could, but they'd very likely have to defend that in court. And what would be their justification?

 

[M14 Shooter]

For what do you believe they will disqualify him?

There doesn't need to be an actual provable act - as long as a secretary of state believes it so, it is so.

 

[BackAgain]

For what do you believe they will disqualify him?

Using your metric, it doesn’t matter. Pick one. Treason. Insurrection. The accusation is all that matters.

 

[Billiejeens]

For what do you believe they will disqualify him?

Well, he has definitely given aid and comfort to our enemies.
Is that bad?

 

[dblack]

You could make the same argument if a charismatic, phenomenally popular 30 year old wanted to run for president. That you should let them run, and be beaten by the ballot, and not by the constitution.
In effect, to have an election victory, override the Constitution.

That doesn't change the optics. And it doesn't resolve the deep anger and frustration felt by half the country.

 

[meaner gene]

Trump needed 38 more votes to win.
Thus: 38 votes.

Trump lost because Biden got 38 MORE votes than needed to win, while Trump got 38 votes FEWER then he needed to win. But that combination means that Trump needed to BOTH gain 38 votes, but for Biden to lose 38 votes at the same time. So Trump lost by 76 votes.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

How many people have been charged with the crime of insurrection?

Why? Their own actions grabbed them by their privates.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Trump lost because Biden got 38 MORE votes than needed to win, while Trump got 38 votes FEWER then he needed to win. But that combination means that Trump needed to BOTH gain 38 votes, but for Biden to lose 38 votes at the same time. So Trump lost by 76 votes.

My -obvious- point:
He didn't lose by 7 million.
Thanks for the proof.

 

[meaner gene]

Apples and airplanes

Age
Birthplace
Those are immutable.

It goes to the argument of WHO gets to make the call.
You're saying they have to go to court to make the call, vs due process allowing the candidate to go to court to correct the call.

 

[Billiejeens]

It goes to the argument of WHO gets to make the call.
You're saying they have to go to court to make the call, vs due process allowing the candidate to go to court to correct the call.

Nope
The immutable ones are open to no interpretation.

 

[Crick]

What is the relevance that you see in focusing so Cult-like to the one word "disenfranchises"

Because it is the centroid of Trump's aargument to the Supreme Court looking into the application of the 14th Amendment's Section 3 text to his candidacy: that removing his name from ballots will "disenfranchise" voters.

Is this just some theoretical exercise with no real-world implications?

Obviously not.

 

[Crick]

Because none of the things listed, actually happened.

And you actually believe that?

 

[Hellbilly]

Democrats are the dumbest ***** ever saying keeping your primary opponent off the ballot isn't rigging an election.

I guess that’s why MAGA wants to do the exact same thing

 

[tahuyaman]

Trump, as far as the Republican party is concerned, is the incumbent. If Obama or Clinton has been in the same situation in which Trump finds himself, they would have gotten 80-90% of the vote. And, I repeat, more than half the Republicans in one of the nation's most conservative states DO NOT WANT HIM REELECTED. He is not doing well.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.