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Kari Lake Accused of Breaking Law by Proving Democrats Broke Law, and Having Gall to Legally Show Fraud Ballots with Bad Signature Matches

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LOL Republican voters in Arizona don't speak gaslighting.



"Even though it is public record to see who voted in any given election, since anyone can go to city hall or county records and see who voted last year, or the year before, or who hasn’t voted in 20 years, Democrats in Arizona are up in arms because Kari Lake had the gall to show impossible signature matches on mail-in ballots, ripping the lid off fraudulent mail-in ballots.

It is who you voted for that is “secret” and where you get the term “secret ballot.” Every year thousands of candidates pick up copies of their district voter rolls, so they can see whose door to knock on (likely voters who voted recently), and who not to bother with.

For some reason Maricopa County Elections has a real problem with people poking around the signature matching closet. In Kari Lake’s famous lawsuit after the election, one of her main accusations was no signature matching on tens of thousands of mail-in ballots. Judge Peter Thompson tossed out that count, depriving Lake of her chance to prove it in court."....
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Even a routine extension of voting hours was denied, almost always granted when lines are long as it was in 2016, when Bernie Sanders voters were the disenfranchised of the hour as Maricopa officials had settled on Hillary. In 2016 voting hours were extended past 8pm to 11pm.


 
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That’s a typical communist MO: accuse your opponents of what you’re guilty of yourselves.

The Communist Manifesto, if I'm not mistaken. Democracy, honest elections, fairness all have nothing to do with anything. Only winning and power. Note how Biden keeps saying "election denialism" is a threat to democracy itself. As if asking questions and debate are "denialism." Communism cannot tolerate debate, because it is a rotten system that loses on the merits. You must silence debate by silencing opposition. By sending them to unvaxxed camps or whatever. Which is what they have planned.

Now they want to throw Kari Lake in jail, to silence her. Exactly how communists think.

 

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That’s a typical communist MO: accuse your opponents of what you’re guilty of yourselves.
This has been going on for at least six years. Democrats continue accusing Republicans of "wanting to take democracy away" at the very same time Democrats actually are taking democracy away.
 

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Publishing the signature of people makes it easier to forge their signature.

Kari Lake is violating a law that protects the security of elections.
 

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Why do you have to sign ballots ?
 

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Publishing the signature of people makes it easier to forge their signature.

Kari Lake is violating a law that protects the security of elections.

How does that matter if the signatures were already forged?
 

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Is there an exception in the law if you personally think the signatures are already forged?

Your side: Prove Fraud!
Our side: here are bogus signatures
Your side: You can't do that!!, and still, PROVE FRAUD

If the signatures are fraudulent, they aren't covered under the law.
 

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In NY you don't [and I dout you do anywhere else but I cannot say for sure], but you sign a register to show you voted and that is then used against your on sight signature in case there is a question of fraud.
We dont here either.

Secret ballots were brought in to prevent corruption in places like the rottten boroughs where people who voted against the local Mr Big experienced retaliation.

We hand in our voting card and our name is ticked off the register. But our vote is known only to ourselves.

Not saying we are right but I have never heard of that before.
 

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Your side: Prove Fraud!
Our side: here are bogus signatures
Your side: You can't do that!!, and still, PROVE FRAUD

If the signatures are fraudulent, they aren't covered under the law.
You prove fraud in court, not Twitter.

Kari Lake posted comparisons of two signatures. She is alleging one of the two is real and one is fraudulent. Therefore it’s covered by the law.

You guys are such morons. Just quit while your ahead instead of bumbling around making yourself look stupid.
 

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You prove fraud in court, not Twitter.

Kari Lake posted comparisons of two signatures. She is alleging one of the two is real and one is fraudulent. Therefore it’s covered by the law.

You guys are such morons. Just quit while your ahead instead of bumbling around making yourself look stupid.

That law is detrimental to the people finding out the truth.

Your side is always saying "SHOW US THE PROOF"

Now it's "YOU CAN'T SHOW ANYONE THE PROOF"

Fucking hypocrites. Please FOAD.
 

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That law is detrimental to the people finding out the truth.

Your side is always saying "SHOW US THE PROOF"

Now it's "YOU CAN'T SHOW ANYONE THE PROOF"

Fucking hypocrites. Please FOAD.
The law protects people from having their signatures publicized for people to copy.

This is common sense.

You can take it to court without violating the law. Twitter changed nothing.

This isn’t hypocrisy. This is a bunch of morons who lack common sense.
 

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We dont here either.
which means you have no way of proving/disproving fraud, which for all you know and can prove is occuring in every election
Secret ballots were brought in to prevent corruption in places like the rottten boroughs where people who voted against the local Mr Big experienced retaliation.
that's one of many reason we have secret ballots
We hand in our voting card and our name is ticked off the register.
why do you have a voting card? if you took the time to filter the information in my post you would see your "voting card" is the substitute/equivalent for/of our register system...
...tommy what if someone used a counterfeit card to vote?
But our vote is known only to ourselves.
and why do you think that is not true of our system? in fact it is illegal and punishable by law to do so otherwise
Not saying we are right but I have never heard of that before.
the only thing you are not right about is how our voting works...you are insisting that our ballots are signed and that simply is not the case, in fact it was impossible to even make that claim until we went to paper ballots which are open to everything from cheating to the accusation you are claiming...
...prior to that we voted by machine where it would be impossible to sign your ballot. In fact your understanding/misunderstanding of this matter points up the need to do away with the paper ballots as they can be called into question in ways that machine voting cannot...
so we will sign a register [which is not a ballot] and you hand in your voting card which may or may not be counterfeit.
 

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The law protects people from having their signatures publicized for people to copy.

This is common sense.

You can take it to court without violating the law. Twitter changed nothing.

This isn’t hypocrisy. This is a bunch of morons who lack common sense.

And yet your side keeps demanding proof, and when proof is given you run behind a law and ignore the proof.

hacks gonna hack I guess.
 

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which means you have no way of proving/disproving fraud, which for all you know and can prove is occuring in every election

that's one of many reason we have secret ballots

why do you have a voting card? if you took the time to filter the information in my post you would see your "voting card" is the substitute/equivalent for/of our register system...
...tommy what if someone used a counterfeit card to vote?

and why do you think that is not true of our system? in fact it is illegal and punishable by law to do so otherwise

the only thing you are not right about is how our voting works...you are insisting that our ballots are signed and that simply is not the case, in fact it was impossible to even make that claim until we went to paper ballots which are open to everything from cheating to the accusation you are claiming...
...prior to that we voted by machine where it would be impossible to sign your ballot. In fact your understanding/misunderstanding of this matter points up the need to do away with the paper ballots as they can be called into question in ways that machine voting cannot...
so we will sign a register [which is not a ballot] and you hand in your voting card which may or may not be counterfeit.
To copy a voting card is a lot of hard work and just doesnt happen. Maybe we are more honest than you.
 

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And yet your side keeps demanding proof, and when proof is given you run behind a law and ignore the proof.

hacks gonna hack I guess.
You guys have been wailing and moaning about following election laws for years but apparently don’t think you have to follow them yourself.

Hacks gonna hack.

And by the way, it’s not proof. It’s not even from the 2022 election.
 

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