Zone1 Kamala Harris Says That You Can Support Abortion and Be A Christian

[justaschmuck9]

You're nuts sins are sins. One sin doesn't have worth more than the other one except the unforgivable sin.

who says?

what are your creds?

I'll believe common sense and the 2000+ year old Church Christ founded.

 

[Friends]

No. End the welfare state, end all government involvement in healthcare altogether, and ban abortion.

You have substantiated my argument.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

You have substantiated my argument.

What argument? You don't have one.

I believe in protecting human rights.


I don't need to buy you a sandwich in order to want laws against you getting punched in the face (in unprovoked aggression anyway).

 

[Friends]

I cannot speak for Congresspersons. And frankly, I don't know a lot about the new obummercare policies.. don't want to

But what I do know is that if a person cannot afford care, and has an urgent problem, he is not rejected at a hospital

Countries with socialized medicine have lower infant mortality rates than the United States, higher life ife expectancies than the United States, and they spend less per capita on medical care than the United States.

I can think of two reasons. First, money that in the United States goes to insurance companies goes directly to hospitals, doctors, and other medical professionals in countries with socialized medicine.

Second, in many countries with socialized medicine the government often finances regular health exams, so health problems do not become as serious as they often do in the United States.

 

[Friends]

What argument? You don't have one.

I believe in protecting human rights.


I don't need to buy you a sandwich in order to want laws against you getting punched in the face (in unprovoked aggression anyway).

My argument, which you have not countered, is that if those who are anti abortion really were pro life, they would support socialized medicine. It would reduce infant mortality and the number of women who die in childbirth. So called "pro life" activists rarely support socialized medicine.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

My argument, which you have not countered, is that if those who are anti abortion really were pro life, they would support socialized medicine.

That isn't an argument. That is a non-sequitur.

Healthcare is a service. You are not entitled to have someone provide you with service. The taxpayer has no obligation to buy you goods or services just because you want them. Moreover, it is evil to steal the taxpayer's money for such a thing.

It would reduce infant mortality and the number of women who die in childbirth.

Irrelevant. It would violate human rights.

So called "pro life" activists rarely support socialized medicine.

It doesn't really matter whether we do or do not, but those of us who consistently defend human rights oppose both socialism and protect the human right to property as well as opposing abortion and protect the human right to life.

The topic of socialism and welfare state issues has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion.

There ARE leftist pro-lifers; they are rare in the United States, because modern Democrats, with their intersectional critical race patriarchy blah blah blah are just the worst.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I cannot speak for Congresspersons. And frankly, I don't know a lot about the new obummercare policies.. don't want to

But what I do know is that if a person cannot afford care, and has an urgent problem, he is not rejected at a hospital

Yeah, even illegals can walk right into an emergency room and get free stuff, while the rest of US have to pick up the ever increasing tab.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

My argument, which you have not countered, is that if those who are anti abortion really were pro life, they would support socialized medicine. It would reduce infant mortality and the number of women who die in childbirth. So called "pro life" activists rarely support socialized medicine.

More people have died under Socialized medicine because of the wait times that happen when Socialism takes hold. If you are pro death then socialized medicine is the way to go.

Proof! Socialized Healthcare Expects to Have More People Die in a Pandemic

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[Friends]

More people have died under Socialized medicine because of the wait times that happen when Socialism takes hold. If you are pro death then socialized medicine is the way to go.

Proof! Socialized Healthcare Expects to Have More People Die in a Pandemic

Charts formulated to predict the spread of Coronavirus and the severity of it were based on the numbers in Red China that we know are false, and countries with single-payer healthcare. That is a problem. Socialist healthcare cannot equal ours and it includes rationing. In some countries with the...

www.independentsentinel.com

Then why do countries with socialized medicine have longer life expectancies?

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The average Canadian born in 2009 can be expected to live 81.2 years. Five countries have higher life expectancies than Canada—83 years in Japan, 82.3 years in Switzerland, 82.1 years in Italy, 81.6 years in Australia, and 81.4 years in Sweden. The average American will live to be just over 78.

Life expectancy - Canada and world results

How does the life expectancy of Canadians rank among its peers in the OECD? Do Canadians live longer than citizens of other countries? What role does economic wealth play in life expectancy outcomes?

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In countries with socialized medicine waiting lists are for those who need elective surgery. When people have emergencies they are taken care of quickly. They have fewer emergencies because the government pays for regular health checkups.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Then why do countries with socialized medicine have longer life expectancies?

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The average Canadian born in 2009 can be expected to live 81.2 years. Five countries have higher life expectancies than Canada—83 years in Japan, 82.3 years in Switzerland, 82.1 years in Italy, 81.6 years in Australia, and 81.4 years in Sweden. The average American will live to be just over 78.

Life expectancy - Canada and world results

How does the life expectancy of Canadians rank among its peers in the OECD? Do Canadians live longer than citizens of other countries? What role does economic wealth play in life expectancy outcomes?

www.conferenceboard.ca

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In countries with socialized medicine waiting lists are for those who need elective surgery. When people have emergencies they are taken care of quickly. They have fewer emergencies because the government pays for regular health checkups.

Maybe because they dont have open borders where diseased illegals come in carrying drugs that harm our citizens. Maybe it is because in the inner cities it is lawlessness so blacks are murdering blacks every weekend. Yeah, when Marxists get into power, peoples lives start ending up short.

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[Friends]

Maybe because they dont have open borders where diseased illegals come in carrying drugs that harm our citizens. Maybe it is because in the inner cities it is lawlessness so blacks are murdering blacks every weekend. Yeah, when Marxists get into power, peoples lives start ending up short.

Did ObamaCare Contribute To The Shocking 2-Year Drop In Life Expectancy? | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

For the second year in a row, the life expectancy declined, and the sharp increase in opioid overdoses is largely to blame. But what fueled the opioid crisis?

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That does help. It is not the main reason. Unfortunately, multi racialism is the death wish of social democracy. Social democracy has only worked in countries where nearly everyone is white. Third world minorities game the system. Most lack the intelligence to earn first world incomes, so many opt for the easy life on welfare.