Kamala goes to the Met

[JoeB131]

How many organizations that have pension funds have suddenly suddenly decided to pull that fund out from under everyone?
I realize you want to believe that your cult is better then the other cult but in reality they really aren’t

I don't know, how many? Do you have a list.

Usually, when a pension fund is discontinued, it's because a big corporation has decided to screw it's workers one more time, not because it was inadequately funded.

 

[Nostra]

Compare the cost of sending a letter to the cost of sending something UPS. Uh, yeah.

One is subsidized by the taxpayers, so we are paying for that letter sent USPS, dumbass.

 

[Nostra]

Because they aren't comparable. One is a public service, the other is a for-profit business.

Oh, to the point, the USPS would be profitable if they weren't required to fund their pension fund for 50 years by a rather silly Republican law.

So you want to steal the pensions of people who have worked their entire life for it.

Pathetic.

 

[Nostra]

I don't know, how many? Do you have a list.

Usually, when a pension fund is discontinued, it's because a big corporation has decided to screw it's workers one more time, not because it was inadequately funded.

You are clueless. There are laws in the books regulating pension funding, stupid.

 

[Moonglow]

Ahead of a fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee, former Vice President Kamala Harris made a surprise appearance at the Met Gala in New York, along with husband Dougie Emhoff

Conor Friedersdorf, a staff writer at The Atlantic, mocked the Democratic Party's decision to tout Harris' attendance at a gala for "Manhattan elites."

"How do we win back enough of the populists and the working class to compete for power again?" he wrote on X.

Damn, Kamala must have had a few bucks left in her campaign coffers. A ticket to the Met Gala in 2023 was $50,000, in 2024 it was $75,000, no telling on ticket prices for 2025. But don't you worry, Democrats are looking out for your best interests.


MSN

Trump's last fundraiser was a million-dollar-a-plate for the Arabs.

 

[Moonglow]

What a joke. Other than the fact that they are neither white nor male, what qualifications do they have?

The same as Tulsi.

 

[BluesLegend]

In related news the Dem party sinks into chaos as Joe Biden returns. "Democrats are reportedly furious with former President Joe Biden's return to the spotlight following his interview Thursday on "The View," according to a Friday report from The Hill."

 

[Maxdeath]

I don't know, how many? Do you have a list.

Usually, when a pension fund is discontinued, it's because a big corporation has decided to screw it's workers one more time, not because it was inadequately funded.

That was the problem Joey. The post office agreed to fund a pension plan for over fifty years. Then suddenly decided it would cost too much and decided to screw over the workers. It even stopped sending checks to those that were already receiving checks from the pension fund.
Do try and keep up. I realize it is hard to understand but make at least some effort

 

[JoeB131]

That was the problem Joey. The post office agreed to fund a pension plan for over fifty years.

They didn't "Agree", they were told by Congress that's what they had to do. Otherwise, the USPS could have funded their pensions the way everyone else does and still shown a profit.

Do try to keep up, I know your learning disability is an obstacle.

 

[Maxdeath]

They didn't "Agree", they were told by Congress that's what they had to do. Otherwise, the USPS could have funded their pensions the way everyone else does and still shown a profit.

Do try to keep up, I know your learning disability is an obstacle.

You show you have very little understanding. Maybe have someone read this for you.
They agreed to fund a pension and the letter carriers all agreed to go back to work. Later on when those that were eligible to retire with the pension did so the costs of the pension began to be realized by those in charge. They decided to suddenly stop paying pension benefits. This left those on the pension with no income except savings. They had thought that the Post Office had bargained in good faith and would keep their promise.
Congress then made the post office continue to fund their pension as planned. To do so they had to pass laws to make sure that the post office did continue to pay those retiring. They did not want to have to pass laws again every year, five years or what ever so they settled on fifty years which was meant to cover those that had retired and those that would be retiring under the pension agreement.

 

[JoeB131]

You show you have very little understanding. Maybe have someone read this for you.
They agreed to fund a pension and the letter carriers all agreed to go back to work.

No, Congress imposed the requirement.... it's not the same thing as a contract negotiation.

 

[Maxdeath]

No, Congress imposed the requirement.... it's not the same thing as a contract negotiation.

If you want to claim apples and apples are not the same then I am not going to disillusion you.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That was the problem Joey. The post office agreed to fund a pension plan for over fifty years. Then suddenly decided it would cost too much and decided to screw over the workers. It even stopped sending checks to those that were already receiving checks from the pension fund.
Do try and keep up. I realize it is hard to understand but make at least some effort

Link it, or you lie!

 

[Maxdeath]

Link it, or you lie!

Considering Joe is misquoting misinformation there is no way he is interested in the truth.
Actually I got that information from three postal workers while we were sitting having coffee. I took them at their word since it started with the retired fella saying they had stopped sending his retirement checks.
But I will look for a link

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Considering Joe is misquoting misinformation there is no way he is interested in the truth.
Actually I got that information from three postal workers while we were sitting having coffee. I took them at their word since it started with the retired fella saying they had stopped sending his retirement checks.
But I will look for a link

You won't find any. He lied as to why he wasn't getting them perhaps.

 

[Maxdeath]

He may have but I assumed that the other two would have said something.
In the meantime this is the very first thing I found on the postal service and their massive problems funding their pension obligations. How the Postal Service began prefunding retiree health care and fell into a deep hole - Save the Post Office

 

[JoeB131]

You two seem to be having your own conversation.

The problem is the USPS only operates at a loss because of the idiotic requirement to fund it's pension for 75 years up front.

Support the USPS Fairness Act

For over a decade, the United States Postal Service has been plagued with the onerous burden of prefunding its retiree health care benefits as mandated by the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA) of 2006. The USPS Fairness Act would release the burden.

apwu.org

Since 2013, the prefunding mandate is responsible for most of the Postal Service’s net losses, and it has defaulted on its prefunding payments since 2012. No other federal agency or private sector business prefunds its retirement benefits. The uncertainty inherent in satisfying the PAEA prefunding mandate is creating real instability in the Postal Service’s operations. The postal employees we represent see the consequences of this instability in their work, their workplaces, and in the service they provide the public.

 

[Maxdeath]

You two seem to be having your own conversation.

The problem is the USPS only operates at a loss because of the idiotic requirement to fund it's pension for 75 years up front.

Support the USPS Fairness Act

For over a decade, the United States Postal Service has been plagued with the onerous burden of prefunding its retiree health care benefits as mandated by the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA) of 2006. The USPS Fairness Act would release the burden.

apwu.org

Since 2013, the prefunding mandate is responsible for most of the Postal Service’s net losses, and it has defaulted on its prefunding payments since 2012. No other federal agency or private sector business prefunds its retirement benefits. The uncertainty inherent in satisfying the PAEA prefunding mandate is creating real instability in the Postal Service’s operations. The postal employees we represent see the consequences of this instability in their work, their workplaces, and in the service they provide the public.

I know you are convinced that is the problem.
The only problem is it is far from correct. Declining mail due to the internet and even poor management are more of the biggest reasons. Try this USPS Needs Policy Change, Not a Bailout, to Fix Pension Problems and Debt - Reason Foundation

 

[JoeB131]

I know you are convinced that is the problem.
The only problem is it is far from correct. Declining mail due to the internet and even poor management are more of the biggest reasons.

Nope. The Post office is a public service, it's not supposed to run at a profit any more than the fire department or the police.

The fact that it WOULD be profitable without this onerous pension requirement is telling on how well it runs.

Social Security and Medicare have unfunded liabilities, but suggest you make the rich pay their fair share, you people will scream like ******* pigs.

 

[Maxdeath]

Nope. The Post office is a public service, it's not supposed to run at a profit any more than the fire department or the police.

The fact that it WOULD be profitable without this onerous pension requirement is telling on how well it runs.

Social Security and Medicare have unfunded liabilities, but suggest you make the rich pay their fair share, you people will scream like ******* pigs.

Look I get it. You want to defend your cult and make the other cult look bad. Even if you do have to tie your so called logic into knots. Even if you have to misquote a Facebook post that even left leaning snoops said was false.
The fact of the matter is they have to honor a pension that was agreed to. They have made many mistakes that have cost them money. You can not deliver packages for equal or less then expenses. Mail has fallen off drastically since the the internet has become more accessible.
I know you will never understand this simple concept but here it is, exactly what would be wrong with them being self sustaining without the need for tax dollars?
We are not talking about anything else other than the mail. I know, I know you want to get away from that because you know you are in trouble.