Just How Sick Can Homophobes Get?

[NATO AIR]

i would rather be queer or seen as a supporter of queers than be a homophobe or seen as one. i would rather love than hate.

pushing innocent kids to suicide is not above homophobes...
http://www.youth-guard.org/gabi/Bills_Story.html

paramedics disgrace their profession, refuse to treat dying transvestite
http://www.gender.org/remember/people/tyrahunter.html

hey homophobes, bet it takes real men to take an innocent guy, slit his throat, bludgeon him with an ax and throw him on a pile of tires which you then set on fire. real brave and heroic defending "family values"
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/assault/

even better, let's go up in a bar and "waste some fags" (six innocent lives taken in all)
http://rtonline1.roanoke.com/rt_specials/shooting/

hey we're real men us homophobes, let's rape a transvestite then slaughter it
http://www.gender.org/remember/people/brandon.html

hey let's betray and murder someone we known for years just cause we want to kill a gay
http://www.nyblade.com/2004/8-6/news/national/death.cfm

and if only i could post the memories and experiences of countless gay kids who get beaten up, abused and treated like shit by their peers, parents and supposed community leaders.

keep preaching the hate homophobes, you are ignorant, hateful and fine examples of what the hell is wrong with our world, just like anti-semites, racial supremacists or the genocide commiting militiamen in Darfur, Bosnia and other nations. your day is coming. you may claim that you don't incite violence, that you don't "hate", but your words reach the ears of millions, a few of whom are emotionally disturbed enough, stupid enough or mean enough to put words into murderous action. and you are responsible for inciting that hatred.

how many days in detention did i spend for beating up bullies who beat up gay kids (and other bullied kids in general) who didn't do anything wrong except exist? too many
how many times have i watched people beat up idiots who had a problem with their gay friends/family members we respect and work with? too many
how many times will loudmouth homophobes be allowed to spout their hatred without a serious cost/penalty? not much longer

 

[wolvie20m]

I agree as I heard once, Hate is like baggge it just drags you down. You don't have to agree to allow.

 

[dmp]

 

[nakedemperor]

Your post meant a lot to me NATO; I spent a few days in the hospital once after someone hit me in the head with a beer can thrown from a moving car on account of a LGBTA solidarity t-shirt I was wearing. Its a far too common occurence for gays to be the butt of discriminatory and prejudice acts. I'm not pro gay marriage; I'm pro civil unions with the same benefits as marriage, but marriage is a religious institution with religious connotations and if God says you can't lay with another man, then far be it from me to get married in his eyes. Your remarks are very refreshing!

 

[Hobbit]

Your post meant a lot to me NATO; I spent a few days in the hospital once after someone hit me in the head with a beer can thrown from a moving car on account of a LGBTA solidarity t-shirt I was wearing. Its a far too common occurence for gays to be the butt of discriminatory and prejudice acts. I'm not pro gay marriage; I'm pro civil unions with the same benefits as marriage, but marriage is a religious institution with religious connotations and if God says you can't lay with another man, then far be it from me to get married in his eyes. Your remarks are very refreshing!

You are quite possibly the most reasonable pro-gay lobbyist I've ever met. Now, I'm against even civil unions unless they can apply to non-romantic couples who live together (two old friends retiring together or twins sharing an apartment for college) for reasons I'll not get into, but most people I've talked to who are pro-gay aren't at all flexible on the marriage thing. To them, it's all or bust.

 

[acludem]

I would actually eliminate all state marriage laws. Marriage is a religious ceremony and churches should decide who they will marry. I would replace marriage with civil unions for all couples, gay or straight, as a simple government recognition that a couple is accepting certain responsibilities in exchange for certain rights.

acludem

 

[Avatar4321]

I would actually eliminate all state marriage laws. Marriage is a religious ceremony and churches should decide who they will marry. I would replace marriage with civil unions for all couples, gay or straight, as a simple government recognition that a couple is accepting certain responsibilities in exchange for certain rights.

acludem

Well we all know what side you choose

Thankfully most of the United States disagrees people like you.

 

[KarlMarx]

Of course, any kind of hatred is bad. Whether gay or straight, hatred and violence against others is not acceptable in a civilized society. There are those individuals who, whether it is because of their hatred of gays or because they are just violent people have hurt or killed gays. No conservative worth his or her salt can condone such behavior.

That having been said, the gay rights crowd has all too often used the label "homophobe" and screamed "homophobia" and "hatemonger" to silence those who disagree with their positions. The radical gays, of course, are the primary source of this type of behavior.

"Homophobia" is a political construct, it is not a mental disorder as defined by the American Psychiatric Association. If it is a mental disorder, then so is "Christophobia" i.e. hatred or fear of Christians, anti-semitism i.e. hatred of Jews, and racism - hatred of those who belong to a different race.

Some will say that hatred is a disease. I would say, no, it isn't. Hatred is part of human nature. But then, to quote Katherine Hepburn in "The African Queen" .. "human nature is something that we were put on this earth to rise above..."

 

[MrMarbles]

Why can't we all just get along?

 

[White knight]

Why can't we all just get along?

Because we have good books or ideologies that tell some people they are better then others, so this gives them moral justification to demonize and hurt them.
There are other societies, mostly in Europe who are more tolerant of these types of things, but most people on this board do not like them, they are too bleeding heart ___________.

 

[KarlMarx]

Because we have good books or ideologies that tell some people they are better then others, so this gives them moral justification to demonize and hurt them.
There are other societies, mostly in Europe who are more tolerant of these types of things, but most people on this board do not like them, they are too bleeding heart ___________.

It isn't books and religion that make people hate, the fault is within us all...our nature is to kill and hurt those that we perceive (rightly or wrongly) as a threat. It is the civilizing influence of society (through laws, religion and simple social stigma) that prevent most of us from doing so.

Religion doesn't cause people to kill one another, people kill each other even with the lack of it (the 100 million deaths at the hands of Communists just proves my point). There are a lot of people on the Left now-a-days that think it is cool to hate....especially George W. Bush. And don't even pretend that it's not hate, it is.

Also, there is a big difference between hating a person and simply disagreeing with their lifestyle and/or behavior. There is also a difference between hating someone for their beliefs and simply disagreeing with them. Another good example is the utter contempt the Left has for Christians, especially Catholics and Evengelicals. And don't deny that either.

And I wouldn't be so impressed with Europe, either. In case you haven't noticed, the Europeans think it is cool to hate Americans in a big way. And don't bother denying it, because they do. Also, while the Europeans may be tolerant of homosexuality, they are also tolerant of dictators and murderers. In addition, many Europeans hate the Jews and would like to see nothing more than the death of Israel. The French are a good example of both. I'd be more careful of just who I admire, if I were you.

So before throwing stones and getting on your high horse about how all those homophobic people on the Right are so full of hate and are so judgemental, look at what those on your side of the political argument say and do. If you think that you don't do those same things....you are only kidding yourself.

 

[White knight]

I agree it was not the religious aspects of the Spanish inquisitions or the burning of Salem witches or the ideologies of the communist parties that caused them to kill. Your right Europe sucks, those socialist have government provided health care. I should not admire any group of nations that work less and have more vacation then us, not to mention they have fewer citizens incarcerated then us. And your right they have no reason to hold any animosity toward us despite all we have done for them, including our support of dictatorships in our puppet nations.

 

[KarlMarx]

Your right Europe sucks, those socialist have government provided health care. I should not admire any group of nations that work less and have more vacation then us, not to mention they have fewer citizens incarcerated then us.

Not to mention a higher unemployment rate, higher inflation rate and a lower standard of living. What is it with you Leftists? You seem to think just because the Government provides Health Care, it is somehow superior? Superior to what? I knew someone in England whose kid needed his tonsils taken out and he was put on a 6 month waiting list. That doesn't happen here!

And your right they have no reason to hold any animosity toward us despite all we have done for them, including our support of dictatorships in our puppet nations.

Or is it because we bailed their butts out of two World Wars then rebuilt the entire continent afterwards. We sent our troops there for nearly fifty years so that the Soviets wouldn't get any ideas of overrunning the rest of Europe. After all that,we went into the Balkans and took care of things before they got out of control and prevented war from engulfing the rest of Europe, when they wouldn't do it themselves? Oh by the way, the Europeans especially Parisians are notorious for harboring people like the Ayatollah Khomenei and educating many communist leaders, who later went on to massacre their countrymen. Yes, Europe has a long tradition of radical political ideas. Also, remember Vichy France? How about Norway during World War II? Can you say "Nazi Collaborators"? Perhaps the real reason that the Europeans hate us is that they're a bunch of Socialists.....

Interesting, in another thread you were denouncing hatred. Now you seem to think it's justified because it's aimed at the United States (which by the way, is my country and I resent that attitude, sorry you don't feel the same way about yours)

 

[Zhukov]

I should not admire any group of nations that work less and have more vacation then us

Admire sloth? Why would you?

It might however be normal to be a little envious. That envy of course fades away when you stop to rationally consider the ramifications of their poor work ethic coupled with their top heavy welfare states.





Bobby (U.S. liberal): "But Timmy (European socialist) next door get's to stay out till 4 in the morning and his parents don't care.'

Dad (conservative): "Yeah, well you wait and see how Tim turns out."

 

[White knight]

Actually the United States is the only modern nation that does not provide health care for its citizens, no system is perfect, but people here can die from not having health coverage. I admit I don't want to pay to treat a overweight slob who smokes and can't put down the Big Mac's.
I do admire the carefree lifestyle. I know Americans must work harder to so we can give out foreign aid, and keep our troops deployed overseas to support their economy

 

[onedomino]

I have not posted in any of these homosexual discussion threads. There does, however, seem to to many on this board that are concerned with this issue. My opinion is that a person's sexuality should be a private matter. I do not agree with the screamers on either side of this issue. A person's private sex life is not public business. I do not agree with the people who publically display their sexuality and I do not agree with the people who bash them. They are both beyond any reasonable boundry of civility.

 

[Zhukov]

Actually the United States is the only modern nation that does not provide health care for its citizens

The United States spends more per capita on health care than every other nation in the world excluding Iceland and Germany.

We spend more on health care in dollars for our poor than the United Kingdom spends on health care for every single one of it's citizens.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/hea_hea_car_fun_pub_per_cap

 

[fubar]

A person who hunts down gay people and hurts them is a criminal, or worse. Same as one who hunts down and hurts old people, or the players on the next-town-over's football team. Violent crime is bad.

having said that, ( and honestly meaning it ) when I was in college I had a sociology proffessor who wanted to be Phil Donahue. He spent a few classes on Homophobes and in particular an occurance in maine where two young teenagers beat up and threw a gay man off a bridge, Killing him.

A few years later my new friend told me he had killed a gay man by throwing him off a bridge ! Same guy.

What my teacher hadn't told us, was that the "gay" man was a sexually molesting predator who was several years older and larger than my friend and his buddy. They were physically sexually accosted by the man, fought back and tossed him over the side of a very low bridge, not knowing the guy couldn't swim.

 

[NATO AIR]

I have not posted in any of these homosexual discussion threads. There does, however, seem to to many on this board that are concerned with this issue. My opinion is that a person's sexuality should be a private matter. I do not agree with the screamers on either side of this issue. A person's private sex life is not public business. I do not agree with the people who publically display their sexuality and I do not agree with the people who bash them. They are both beyond any reasonable boundry of civility.

i agree with what you say.

if i'm a screamer on this issue though, its only because some board members have gone out of their way to target gays with a broad stroke that is not only an unfair, untruthful attack, but a vicious, cowardly one. as far as i'm concerned, the constitution has nothing in it about the US becoming a theocracy at the desires of a small group of the population, but sadly, that is what we are coming to. i will scream from here till the bitter end then i suppose.

 

[Bug]

Republican: Lets cut taxes

Democrat: You hate HOMOS!






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