Just broke, Manchin says he will NOT vote for Build Back Better

People are quitting jobs they were doing before all the handouts enabled them to quit.

We are supposed to believe the these folks had an epiphany that they they weren't getting paid enough and not treated well that just happened to coincide with the COVID handouts. Also coincidently, if the handouts stop, including the refundable child tax credit, these same folks will decide those employers and the pay isn't so bad afterall. Funny how that works.
 
We are supposed to believe the these folks had an epiphany that they they weren't getting paid enough and not treated well that just happened to coincide with the COVID handouts. Also coincidently, if the handouts stop, including the refundable child tax credit, these same folks will decide those employers and the pay isn't so bad afterall. Funny how that works.
Precisely. Liberals like to say that these people just don’t want to work for $16 or $17 an hour (which is what employers around here are paying) when these same people were working for $13 an hour less than two years ago and glad for the job.

Nothing to do with the fact that they are getting all the COVID-inspired handouts? Hmmmm….
 
Precisely. Liberals like to say that these people just don’t want to work for $16 or $17 an hour (which is what employers around here are paying) when these same people were working for $13 an hour less than two years ago and glad for the job.

Nothing to do with the fact that they are getting all the COVID-inspired handouts? Hmmmm….

Which would those be? I don't seem to be getting them.
 
His "NO" vote is prove that he does.
Yup. His state went overwhelmingly for Trump, as they realized that the massive socialist-style handouts of Democrats would a) result in a big drop in productivity, b) drive inflation, and c) cause an economic catastrophe.

Manchin wants to keep his job, and voted the way his constituents want.
 
Which would those be? I don't seem to be getting them.
Then you’re either part of the wealthy class or have no children under 18. Everyone else has been given welfare, and many have quit or are refusing jobs because of it.
 
Then you’re either part of the wealthy class or have no children under 18. Everyone else has been given welfare, and many have quit or are refusing jobs because of it.

The poor with children get a bit but not hardly enough to live on (especially with children). So explain how they live on this?

It's also money they were getting previously, it's just spread out now,
 
The poor with children get a bit but not hardly enough to live on (especially with children). So explain how they live on this?

It's also money they were getting previously, it's just spread out now,
Boy, are you minsinformed! I really hope you learn what you policies you are voting to support.

1) It’s not “money they were getting previously, just spread out.“ It is now called “fully refundable,” meaning that people who owe no taxes (which would be the working class) are now getting the full amount - as much or more than $10,000 a year in pure welfare. IOW, it’s not a tax credit for people who don’t pay taxes: it’s a cash handout.

2) It‘s not intended to be enough to live alone, with no OTHER welfare on top. But it is a very nice supplement that is enabling spouses with part-time jobs they had to help support the family to just up and quit since they are getting other people to pay them almost as much as they were getting on the job.

Leftist policies are encouraging people to be slackers and driving inflation.
 
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Boy, are you minsinformed! I really hope you learn what you policies you are voting to support.

What policies did I vote for? I do not recall this vote.

1) It’s not money they were getting previously, just spread out. It is now called “fully refundable,” meaning that people who owe no taxes at all are getting the full amount - as much or more than $10,000 a year in pure welfare. IOW, it’s not a tax credit for people who don’t pay taxes: it’s a cash handout.
Which some got all along. A person can't live on that today with children.

2) It‘s not intended to be enough to live alone, with no OTHER welfare on top. But it is a very nice supplement that is enabling spouses with part-time jobs they had to help support the family to just up and quit since they are getting other people to pay them almost as much as they were getting on the job.

Leftist policies are encouraging people to be slackers and driving inflation.

Billions pumped into the markets for years has nothing to do with driving inflation?
 
What policies did I vote for? I do not recall this vote.


Which some got all along. A person can't live on that today with children.



Billions pumped into the markets for years has nothing to do with driving inflation?
I give up. You’re just too poorly informed to have a reasonable discussion, and putting up the same false liberal talking points.
 
I give up. You’re just too poorly informed to have a reasonable discussion, and putting up the same false liberal talking points.

And yet, they are factual.

The American Rescue Plan increased the maximum annual credit from $2,000 per child (under age 17) in 2020 to $3,000 per child (under age 18)

What Is the Child Tax Credit?

You are arguing an extra $1000 a year per child allows a person to quit working. All I'm asking is for you to explain your reasoning on how this works.
 
And yet, they are factual.

The American Rescue Plan increased the maximum annual credit from $2,000 per child (under age 17) in 2020 to $3,000 per child (under age 18)

What Is the Child Tax Credit?

You are arguing an extra $1000 a year per child allows a person to quit working. All I'm asking is for you to explain your reasoning on how this works.
Where you’d get that half-truth description?

FOR THE LAST FRIGGIN TIME, previously you could only claim the amount up to the amount of income taxes you owe, as an offset. Now. not only did the increase the giveaway, even those who owe NO taxes get the entire amount! For the half of people who pay no taxes, they are now on welfare, if they weren’t already.

And it’s not $1000 a year, you dufus. It’s almost $1000 a MONTH if you have three kids. And nobody is saying that’s enough to live on. it’s enough, though, FOR THE SPOUSE WHO HAD BEEN WORKING PART-TIME to help support the family QUIT HER JOB.

Example: Someone I know has four kids and had a job two nights a week to contribute to the family income. She made $1200 a month. Not much, but it paid the grocery bill for the family, Now, with three under six and one age seven, she is getting a monthly deposit of $1,150. Her welfare payment is equivalent to what she used to have to work for, and she no longer needs the job. She quit. Multiply that by millions, and that’s why we have jobs not filled. PEOPLE CAN QUIT JOBS WHEN THEY ARE GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF OTHER PEOPLE’s money!
 
Where you’d get that half-truth description?

FOR THE LAST FRIGGIN TIME, previously you could only claim the amount up to the amount of income taxes you owe, as an offset. Now. not only did the increase the giveaway, even those who owe NO taxes get the entire amount! For the half of people who pay no taxes, they are now on welfare, if they weren’t already.

And it’s not $1000 a year, you dufus. It’s almost $1000 a MONTH if you have three kids. And nobody is saying that’s enough to live on. it’s enough, though, FOR THE SPOUSE WHO HAD BEEN WORKING PART-TIME to help support the family QUIT HER JOB.

Example: Someone I know has four kids and had a job two nights a week to contribute to the family income. She made $1200 a month. Not much, but it paid the grocery bill for the family, Now, with three under six and one age seven, she is getting a monthly deposit of $1,150. Her welfare payment is equivalent to what she used to have to work for, and she no longer needs the job. She quit. Multiply that by millions, and that’s why we have jobs not filled. PEOPLE CAN QUIT JOBS WHEN THEY ARE GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF OTHER PEOPLE’s money!

I post the actual numbers and you post whatever makes you feel good.
 

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