Just broke, Manchin says he will NOT vote for Build Back Better

[Remodeling Maidiac]

"Manchin Says He Won't Vote for ‘Build Back Better' Bill - WSJ" Manchin Says He Won't Vote for ‘Build Back Better' Bill

We need to buy this man a case of beer!

Thank you JOE

 

[eagle1462010]

That is why the left tabled it already. Now they will push to steal all elections with a revamped HR 1 next year.

 

[Votto]

"Manchin Says He Won't Vote for ‘Build Back Better' Bill - WSJ" Manchin Says He Won't Vote for ‘Build Back Better' Bill

We need to buy this man a case of beer!

Thank you JOE

How much longer do you reckon he has to live under the control of the Progressive Brown shirts?

His family probably should enter a witness protection program of some kind.

 

[pknopp]

The million/billionaires in NY and California won't be happy.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

That is why the left tabled it already. Now they will push to steal all elections with a revamped HR 1 next year.

That needs 60 votes tho doesn't it?

 

[lennypartiv]

Manchin is a Dem politician. He has his price, Biden hasn't met that price yet.

 

[BrokeLoser]

"Manchin Says He Won't Vote for ‘Build Back Better' Bill - WSJ" Manchin Says He Won't Vote for ‘Build Back Better' Bill

We need to buy this man a case of beer!

Thank you JOE

Great news…did Sinema cave?

 

[maybelooking]

Hes a long time politician, which makes me hate him.......

but in this regard, he's a FUCKING HERO. Nicely done!

 

[Votto]

They will just use Reconciliation like they always do when they don't have the votes. That's how they passed Obamacare.

Democracy is only good when it works for the DNC.

 

[pknopp]

They will just use Reconciliation like they always do when they don't have the votes. That's how they passed Obamacare.

Democracy is only good when it works for the DNC.

They only need 50 because of the way they earlier set this up. It's a budget bill.

Reconciliation or not they need 50. They don't have them.

 

[Jets]

He was not going to vote for it anyway. This was political posturing 101…

 

[Votto]

They only need 50 because of the way they earlier set this up. It's a budget bill.

Reconciliation or not they need 50. They don't have them.

They will just make up another rule then, or pack the courts to make it Constitutional, etc.

They will get their way, eventually.

 

[eagle1462010]

That needs 60 votes tho doesn't it?

yeah unless they change the rules again.

 

[Meathead]

"Manchin Says He Won't Vote for ‘Build Back Better' Bill - WSJ" Manchin Says He Won't Vote for ‘Build Back Better' Bill

We need to buy this man a case of beer!

Thank you JOE

Excellent. Socialism thwarted!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

They will just use Reconciliation like they always do when they don't have the votes. That's how they passed Obamacare.

Democracy is only good when it works for the DNC.

Yeah, in lib land you can take a 3 trillion dollar spending bill and call it a budget bill. They're not going to let this one go. This one has their globalist new world order dreams.

 

[kaz]

The million/billionaires in NY and California won't be happy.

Isn't it funny how Democrats like Nancy Pelosi continue to become millionaires while working in congress and you never notice because she's a Democrat that she's still actually becoming a millionaire on your watch. Sure, Cowboy, you're for millionaires funding your great experiment. Sure you are

 

[task0778]

As far as I can tell, without both Manchin and Sinema, the democrats don't have 50 votes plus the tiebreaker (Kamala Harris) to do anything. Are they desperate enough to override the parliamentarian, who this week rejected their latest attempt to include immigration reform into the BBB spending bill? Or just plain ignore the parliamentarian's ruling? They probably are, but neither Manchin or Sinema are willing to do that either, so the IOW the democrats are fucked unless those 2 moderate dem senators cave in 2022.

 

[task0778]

That is why the left tabled it already. Now they will push to steal all elections with a revamped HR 1 next year.

The dems have to have 60 votes for that one, not 50. Unless they ignore or bypass the Senate rules like they did to pass the recent increase in the debt ceiling. That was supposed to be a one-time thing, but my guess is they'll try to use it for whatever they can get 50 votes for. But here again they have a problem with Manchin and Sinema, who have said they won't support that idea.

What this really makes clear to everybody is what will happen if and when the democrats ever get the necessary 50 votes in the Senate to do whatever they want to, plus control of the house and a democrat in the WH.

 

[eagle1462010]

The dems have to have 60 votes for that one, not 50. Unless they ignore or bypass the Senate rules like they did to pass the recent increase in the debt ceiling. That was supposed to be a one-time thing, but my guess is they'll try to use it for whatever they can get 50 votes for. But here again they have a problem with Manchin and Sinema, who have said they won't support that idea.

What this really makes clear to everybody is what will happen if and when the democrats ever get the necessary 50 votes in the Senate to do whatever they want to, plus control of the house and a democrat in the WH.

REID was the master of changing the rules on this. They change the rules and get what they want then whine when it is used on them. Shouldn't be easy to pass laws. That was the intent of the Constitution.

 

[struth]

I expect the Dems to try and break the filibuster over this, and ram this through because the mid-terms because they know they are losing big then