Jury Duty

[SweetSue92]

Given not only today's events with Trump's indictment, but what a not-small percentage of my fellow so-called "Americans" think of that indictment, just wait til the next time I get called for Jury Duty.

These lawyers/judge are going to get a dissertation they don't see coming. "I have no faith in this banana republic system at any level. It is corrupt from the ground up. I resent that I am required to take time away from work to report to this mockery."

Who's with me?

 

[White 6]

Given not only today's events with Trump's indictment, but what a not-small percentage of my fellow so-called "Americans" think of that indictment, just wait til the next time I get called for Jury Duty.

These lawyers/judge are going to get a dissertation they don't see coming. "I have no faith in this banana republic system at any level. It is corrupt from the ground up. I resent that I am required to take time away from work to report to this mockery."

Who's with me?

Not me. I've had jury duty twice in the last 25 years or so, small stuff where I sat two juries. My wife was on a murder trial jury about 30 years ago, where a guy held his babymomma's baby under water because the baby was crying. He's still in prison somewhere in the state. She also, was in the jury pool a few months ago, while we were supposed to be Hiking Mount LeConte with a bunch of relatives and military retiree friends, but she didn't have to sit a jury and made arrangements with the court to make the trip anyway. It is not that big a deal most of the time. You go. If selected the judge and the defense and prosecution lawyer ask you questions to see if you are somebody they think will be fair-minded or have any prejudices one way or the other regarding the case at hand that would preclude you from being on the jury by the judgement of the prosecution or the defense. It is just another duty to your community to serve. Like I said, usually not a big deal. The murder 1 trial she was on, was a hassle, as she was sequestered for a week.

 

[SweetSue92]

Not me. I've had jury duty twice in the last 25 years or so, small stuff where I sat two juries. My wife was on a murder trial jury about 30 years ago, where a guy held his babymomma's baby under water because the baby was crying. He's still in prison somewhere in the state. She also, was in the jury pool a few months ago, while we were supposed to be Hiking Mount LeConte with a bunch of relatives and military retiree friends, but she didn't have to sit a jury and made arrangements with the court to make the trip anyway. It is not that big a deal most of the time. You go. If selected the judge and the defense and prosecution lawyer ask you questions to see if you are somebody they think will be fair-minded or have any prejudices one way or the other regarding the case at hand that would preclude you from being on the jury by the judgement of the prosecution or the defense. It is just another duty to your community to serve. Like I said, usually not a big deal. The murder 1 trial she was on, was a hassle, as she was sequestered for a week.

That's nice, but I didn't ask what was your experience on juries.

I am saying after today, why would ANY American have ANY faith in the system at all?

I do not, and will make this plain if I am called again for jury duty.

To make a larger point, I don't think the chattering monkeys on this site realize how much of our society depends on the common understanding and good will of Americans. They got their feelings hurt and destroyed all that and are eating popcorn XponentialChaos on a pile of ash. I don't think they realize it yet, but they will.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Given not only today's events with Trump's indictment, but what a not-small percentage of my fellow so-called "Americans" think of that indictment, just wait til the next time I get called for Jury Duty.

These lawyers/judge are going to get a dissertation they don't see coming. "I have no faith in this banana republic system at any level. It is corrupt from the ground up. I resent that I am required to take time away from work to report to this mockery."

Who's with me?

Done it already. I hit the judge with that an a bailiff escorted me out of the courthouse.

 

[SweetSue92]

Done it already. I hit the judge with that an a bailiff escorted me out of the courthouse.

A whole, whole lot more Americans are with you now.

I don't think the dunderheads on this site understand what a complete mistrust in all the systems REALLY means.

Can't have a nation like that. But hey, they're munching popcorn and dancing around because their guy will get a mugshot.

That's how thick headed they are.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Rebellion can take many forms.

 

[XponentialChaos]

That's nice, but I didn't ask what was your experience on juries.

I am saying after today, why would ANY American have ANY faith in the system at all?

I do not, and will make this plain if I am called again for jury duty.

To make a larger point, I don't think the chattering monkeys on this site realize how much of our society depends on the common understanding and good will of Americans. They got their feelings hurt and destroyed all that and are eating popcorn XponentialChaos on a pile of ash. I don't think they realize it yet, but they will.

Orange Jesus gets indicted and you go ballistic. Relax.

 

[Foxfyre]

Given not only today's events with Trump's indictment, but what a not-small percentage of my fellow so-called "Americans" think of that indictment, just wait til the next time I get called for Jury Duty.

These lawyers/judge are going to get a dissertation they don't see coming. "I have no faith in this banana republic system at any level. It is corrupt from the ground up. I resent that I am required to take time away from work to report to this mockery."

Who's with me?

Well lets narrow that down to a grand jury of 17 to 23 people and requiring a majority of 12 to indict. We still don't know what a formal jury of 12 would do with a politically motivated bogus indictment. That the indictment remains sealed is quite curious though.

The court trials I have watched have all produced verdicts I agreed with whether the verdict was guilty or not guilty but they were trials of people charged with real crimes. That application of the law has become so politicized and truly depraved in character has become a serious problem in this country.

 

[SweetSue92]

Well lets narrow that down to a grand jury of 17 to 23 people and requiring a majority of 12 to indict. We still don't know what a formal jury of 12 would do with a politically motivated bogus indictment. That the indictment remains sealed is quite curious though.

The court trials I have watched have all produced verdicts I agreed with whether the verdict was guilty or not guilty but they were trials of people charged with real crimes. That application of the law has become so politicized and truly depraved in character has become a serious problem in this country.

As EvilCat Breath said, rebellion can take many forms. When regular Americans start spewing at lawyers and judges what they really think of the entire system, maybe things will change. And if not, oh well, we tried.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Given not only today's events with Trump's indictment, but what a not-small percentage of my fellow so-called "Americans" think of that indictment, just wait til the next time I get called for Jury Duty.

These lawyers/judge are going to get a dissertation they don't see coming. "I have no faith in this banana republic system at any level. It is corrupt from the ground up. I resent that I am required to take time away from work to report to this mockery."

Who's with me?

So you want to leave jury duty up to the lunatic leftists?? You HAVE to serve and fight! These are YOUR RIGHTS they’re taking away

 

[Foxfyre]

As EvilCat Breath said, rebellion can take many forms. When regular Americans start spewing at lawyers and judges what they really think of the entire system, maybe things will change. And if not, oh well, we tried.

But we can't just shrug and forget it saying "we tried" which has been the Republican M.O. for far too long. Too many times they 'tried' but did not have the passion or maybe even the integrity to see it though.

The last time we saw that kind of passion and integrity from the party was with Newt Gingrich and his reformer Republicans of 1994 taking office in 1995. They, reinforced by Tim Penny and 30 some conservative Democrats pushed through legislation that not only triggered a good economy and a lot of very good legislation, they passed it again and again until Bill Clinton was politically forced to sign it. It literally saved his Presidency.

As EvilCat Breath said, rebellion can take many forms. When regular Americans start spewing at lawyers and judges what they really think of the entire system, maybe things will change. And if not, oh well, we tried.

I never want Republicans to behave as the Democrats do, protesting and threatening people in their homes if they judge differently than we want. I do want Republicans to not make one effort and then say 'we tried' and give up.

Our only hope is to keep demanding election integrity and winning enough power at the ballot box to put policy in place that will prevent this kind of politically motivated malicious injustice from happening to anybody ever again.

 

[Blues Man]

Given not only today's events with Trump's indictment, but what a not-small percentage of my fellow so-called "Americans" think of that indictment, just wait til the next time I get called for Jury Duty.

These lawyers/judge are going to get a dissertation they don't see coming. "I have no faith in this banana republic system at any level. It is corrupt from the ground up. I resent that I am required to take time away from work to report to this mockery."

Who's with me?

There is a very big difference between a trial jury and a Grand Jury.

A trial jury is accountable to the courts and the people a Grand Jury is not.

A grand jury is a tool prosecutors love because they get to manipulate a bunch of people who know nothing about the law with a one sided presentation which is why it is said that a Grand Jury will indict a ham sandwich. The prosecutor can even use evidence that may be ruled inadmissible in the criminal trial.

And that it is a secret trial with a secret verdict is IMO absolutely unacceptable especially in light of how many times in the past it has been shown that Grand Jury "trials" have been rigged.

 

[White 6]

That's nice, but I didn't ask what was your experience on juries.

I am saying after today, why would ANY American have ANY faith in the system at all?

I do not, and will make this plain if I am called again for jury duty.

To make a larger point, I don't think the chattering monkeys on this site realize how much of our society depends on the common understanding and good will of Americans. They got their feelings hurt and destroyed all that and are eating popcorn XponentialChaos on a pile of ash. I don't think they realize it yet, but they will.

Your choice. It will either get you off or get you contempt of court.

 

[SweetSue92]

But we can't just shrug and forget it saying "we tried" which has been the Republican M.O. for far too long. Too many times they 'tried' but did not have the passion or maybe even the integrity to see it though.

The last time we saw that kind of passion and integrity from the party was with Newt Gingrich and his reformer Republicans of 1994 taking office in 1995. They, reinforced by Tim Penny and 30 some conservative Democrats pushed through legislation that not only triggered a good economy and a lot of very good legislation, they passed it again and again until Bill Clinton was politically forced to sign it. It literally saved his Presidency.

I never want Republicans to behave as the Democrats do, protesting and threatening people in their homes if they judge differently than we want. I do want Republicans to not make one effort and then say 'we tried' and give up.

Our only hope is to keep demanding election integrity and winning enough power at the ballot box to put policy in place that will prevent this kind of politically motivated malicious injustice from happening to anybody ever again.

I did not say anything about "protesting and threatening people in their homes".

Starve the system. Refuse to participate. A form of "opting out".

If we could ever get our crap organized we could make a huge difference. But as you say: Republicans. So we won't.

 

[SweetSue92]

Your choice. It will either get you off or get you contempt of court.

Oh yeah? They ask my opinion, I tell them, and then I get contempt of court?

That would rather make my case for me, would it not?

 

[Mr Natural]

A bad day of jury duty is better than a good day at work.

 

[SweetSue92]

A bad day of jury duty is better than a good day at work.

If this is true than you have a terrible job, and I'm sorry for it

 

[SweetSue92]

So you want to leave jury duty up to the lunatic leftists?? You HAVE to serve and fight! These are YOUR RIGHTS they’re taking away

Yes.

Let it burn.

Let's give them the Utopia they all think they will be in charge of.

 

[Vastator]

Given not only today's events with Trump's indictment, but what a not-small percentage of my fellow so-called "Americans" think of that indictment, just wait til the next time I get called for Jury Duty.

These lawyers/judge are going to get a dissertation they don't see coming. "I have no faith in this banana republic system at any level. It is corrupt from the ground up. I resent that I am required to take time away from work to report to this mockery."

Who's with me?

That's a wasted opportunity. Why get yourself dismissed, when you can hang the jury if you find the law to be unconstitutional, or the charges politically motivated?

 

[XponentialChaos]

These lawyers/judge are going to get a dissertation they don't see coming. "I have no faith in this banana republic system at any level. It is corrupt from the ground up. I resent that I am required to take time away from work to report to this mockery."

Who's with me?

So, just to be clear, your big plan is to tell them you don’t like serving jury duty.