Judge Sullivan Scrambles For A Lifeline To Bail HIMSELF Out Of Dropped Flynn Case

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

You think Obama used real prosecutors and processes to investigate hillary?

I don’t think Obama did anything. He wasn’t involved in any decisions made about the investigation.

The IG discusses how the investigation was staffed, entirely with career prosecutors who were not chosen by any political appointee. You’ll find the discussion on page 46 of the IG report.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

So based on this, I’d say yes they were “real” prosecutors.

Would you say otherwise?

It is just amusing to watch people such as yourself who are so uninformed and so unable to draw reasonable conclusions using evidentiary information available to all - act as if they are superior in any manner.

I’m much better informed than you. That’s what happens when you aren’t afraid to have your beliefs questioned.

 

[Billiejeens]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

 

[iceberg]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

name anyone in trumps camp that was even given a parking ticket. y'all tout all the time NO CRIMES WE RULE AND ARE HONEST.

hillary
benghazi
brennan spying
spying on sharyl attkisson
and this list goes on.

yet they all got handled before they got to that point so if anything obama took care of his side before it ever went to court.

but hey - it's coming. and now that people ARE being found to have been wrong, you hate it and tantrum city gains another resident.

 

[Billiejeens]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

You think Obama used real prosecutors and processes to investigate hillary?

I don’t think Obama did anything. He wasn’t involved in any decisions made about the investigation.

The IG discusses how the investigation was staffed, entirely with career prosecutors who were not chosen by any political appointee. You’ll find the discussion on page 46 of the IG report.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

So based on this, I’d say yes they were “real” prosecutors.

Would you say otherwise?

It is just amusing to watch people such as yourself who are so uninformed and so unable to draw reasonable conclusions using evidentiary information available to all - act as if they are superior in any manner.

I’m much better informed than you. That’s what happens when you aren’t afraid to have your beliefs questioned.

You're not

 

[iceberg]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

You think Obama used real prosecutors and processes to investigate hillary?

I don’t think Obama did anything. He wasn’t involved in any decisions made about the investigation.

The IG discusses how the investigation was staffed, entirely with career prosecutors who were not chosen by any political appointee. You’ll find the discussion on page 46 of the IG report.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

So based on this, I’d say yes they were “real” prosecutors.

Would you say otherwise?

It is just amusing to watch people such as yourself who are so uninformed and so unable to draw reasonable conclusions using evidentiary information available to all - act as if they are superior in any manner.

I’m much better informed than you. That’s what happens when you aren’t afraid to have your beliefs questioned.

yet i've never seen you change them.

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

 

[sakinago]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

 

[Billiejeens]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

There was a minimal amount of "trouble" for the IRS - Definitely not proportional.

 

[Billiejeens]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

That's just factually false.

 

[Billiejeens]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

Who was installed?

It more than appears that the original prosecutions were totally political overkill.
Any correction to achieve actual justice would be the proper legal course.

 

[sakinago]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

The IRS admitted it. The IRS said they threw red tape because of their political affiliations. They tried to blame it on a “few bad actors in Cleveland” but that clearly wasn’t the case. As far as the investigations the hard drives “suddenly” had a “malfunction” and they decided the best course of action was to shred them. Also, guess who was in charge of the DOJ at the time?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Oh, well in that case.....



What else can we expect? The KKK investigating hate crimes and lynchings? That should be conducted with the utmost integrity, right?

 

[Nostra]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

That's just factually false.

Whatever you say kiddo. I’d ask you to back it up but we both know you have no intention to do so.

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

 

[colfax_m]

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Oh, well in that case.....



What else can we expect? The KKK investigating hate crimes and lynchings? That should be conducted with the utmost integrity, right?

Is that the best you can do? Comparing the DoJ to the KKK?

I don’t really think that’s a serious reply.

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

The IRS admitted it. The IRS said they threw red tape because of their political affiliations. They tried to blame it on a “few bad actors in Cleveland” but that clearly wasn’t the case. As far as the investigations the hard drives “suddenly” had a “malfunction” and they decided the best course of action was to shred them. Also, guess who was in charge of the DOJ at the time?

I don’t think the IRS admitted what you think they did. This seems like splitting hairs but is monumentally important. They’d need to prove intent and that just didn’t come together.

 

[Billiejeens]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

That's just factually false.

Whatever you say kiddo. I’d ask you to back it up but we both know you have no intention to do so.

You aren't aware that people were fired?
That the IRS settled lawsuits about that exact matter?

Weird how little unfortunately actually Pentwater your bubble .

Spoiler alert - water is wet

 

[Nostra]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.