Judge Strikes Down Citizenship Question in 2020 Census

[Darkwind]

Why were democrats fighting this?

Congressional seats are determined by the number of people in a state. If they don't have to enforce the fact that the people need to be citizens, they can get additional seats that will always go to them in the House.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

And thanks a big bunch for the link (not).

Apparently you like to be informed (not).

 

[The Purge]

The far left has been “triggered”. Now they start their Nazi style death threats. It appears the “demonRATS" don’t want their “11 million” number going in the toilet and the true numbers of illegals aliens coming out.

 

[justoffal]

Why were democrats fighting this?

This will be a fast track location technique
For ICE.... That's why.

Jo

 

[RealDave]

A federal judge ruled on Friday the US government can include citizenship question on the US Census.
It makes complete sense so Democrats are against it.
BREAKING: Federal Judge Declines to Block Citizenship Question from US 2020 Census




This is it democrats are against it that must make it a wonderful move.

Republicans cheating. No surprise there.

 

[Rustic]

Why were democrats fighting this?

Because it was proven flawed decades ago

Lol
Boy,
You Can take your illegal aliens and shove them up your fucking ass because they have no rights you motherfucking retard

 

[Rustic]

A federal judge ruled on Friday the US government can include citizenship question on the US Census.
It makes complete sense so Democrats are against it.
BREAKING: Federal Judge Declines to Block Citizenship Question from US 2020 Census




This is it democrats are against it that must make it a wonderful move.

Republicans cheating. No surprise there.

You can shove your illegal aliens up your ass

 

[MindWars]

STILL no explanation for how two courts holding opposing opinions and a pending SC hearing in a week gives you some kind of "win."

And thanks a big bunch for the link (not).

It's the America you wanted " NO DUE PROCESS" land of leftist Trump hating morons the loss of due process started back during Bush and that a.holes NDAA act, etc.

 

[OldLady]

And thanks a big bunch for the link (not).

Apparently you like to be informed (not).

I believe I am informed.

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

Not surprised this judge made such an idiotic ruling. After all, he was appointed by a non-citizen president.

Obama Judge: "Including Citizenship Question On The Census Is Fundamentally Counterproductive To The Goal Of Obtaining Accurate Citizenship Data"

 

[JGalt]

The Supreme Court will knock that judge's dick in the dirt.

 

[Fang]

Not surprised this judge made such an idiotic ruling. After all, he was appointed by a non-citizen president.

Obama Judge: "Including Citizenship Question On The Census Is Fundamentally Counterproductive To The Goal Of Obtaining Accurate Citizenship Data"

Stunning how out of touch and political a "judge" can be.

 

[easyt65]

It is obvious that in an attempt to protect illegals / criminals and keep hidden from the American people just how many illegals we now have in our country, Obama / Liberal Judges have declared the United States, as a sovereign nation, does not have either the RIGHT or the Need-To-Know just how many illegals there are in this country.

 

[Jackson]

Not surprised this judge made such an idiotic ruling. After all, he was appointed by a non-citizen president.

Obama Judge: "Including Citizenship Question On The Census Is Fundamentally Counterproductive To The Goal Of Obtaining Accurate Citizenship Data"

That does not make sense. It's an oxymoron from an imbecile judge.

 

[BlackFlag]

There’s a reason they removed the question in the 1st place.

 

[Defiant1]

There’s a reason they removed the question in the 1st place.

Oh yes because there's nobody who wants or needs to know how many American citizens live in the US.

 

[DGS49]

Well, it's not a simple question. Article One speaks of the enumeration of the number of "free persons" - not citizens - for the various purposes stated. So, presumably, the census should count all "free persons" and not just citizens and legal residents.

It goes without saying that in the Age of Trump, there would be people in the country illegally, who, looking at the survey and seeing a Citizenship question, will either decline to fill it out or limit their response to those in that household who are in the country legally, if any.

Presumably, in California and other states with large populations of people who are not in the country legally, the enumeration will fall short of the actual number. Those affected states complain that, since the USSC has decreed - insanely, in my opinion - that those states must feed, house, clothe, medicate, and educate the children of those in the country illegally, the same as if they were fine upstanding citizens, they will lose out on not only Congressional representation (each H.R. seat being allocated to populations of 750,000 or so) but also Federal largesse that is passed out on the basis of population.

So we have the bizarre situation where these states generally identify themselves as "sanctuary" jurisdictions, where they decline to help the Feds enforce our existing immigration laws, and hence ENCOURAGE illegal intrusions into our country, and now want to insist that all of their illegals be COUNTED when they stand at the capacious teats of the Federal Government. [In California, anyway, where many of them VOTE and some pay taxes, I suppose this makes some perverse sense].

I would not BET on the USSC siding with the Government here. They may find that the citizenship question will impede the purpose of the census.

In my own silly opinion, I want the Gub'mint to FINALLY know and PUBLISH the actual number of illegals, so that the Media and the Leftists will get off this bullshit ELEVEN MILLION number that they have been claiming for more than a decade, and we can recognize the REAL number which is AT LEAST TWENTY MILLION.

 

[Erinwltr]

Well, it's not a simple question. Article One speaks of the enumeration of the number of "free persons" - not citizens - for the various purposes stated. So, presumably, the census should count all "free persons" and not just citizens and legal residents.

It goes without saying that in the Age of Trump, there would be people in the country illegally, who, looking at the survey and seeing a Citizenship question, will either decline to fill it out or limit their response to those in that household who are in the country legally, if any.

Presumably, in California and other states with large populations of people who are not in the country legally, the enumeration will fall short of the actual number. Those affected states complain that, since the USSC has decreed - insanely, in my opinion - that those states must feed, house, clothe, medicate, and educate the children of those in the country illegally, the same as if they were fine upstanding citizens, they will lose out on not only Congressional representation (each H.R. seat being allocated to populations of 750,000 or so) but also Federal largesse that is passed out on the basis of population.

So we have the bizarre situation where these states generally identify themselves as "sanctuary" jurisdictions, where they decline to help the Feds enforce our existing immigration laws, and hence ENCOURAGE illegal intrusions into our country, and now want to insist that all of their illegals be COUNTED when they stand at the capacious teats of the Federal Government. [In California, anyway, where many of them VOTE and some pay taxes, I suppose this makes some perverse sense].

I would not BET on the USSC siding with the Government here. They may find that the citizenship question will impede the purpose of the census.

In my own silly opinion, I want the Gub'mint to FINALLY know and PUBLISH the actual number of illegals, so that the Media and the Leftists will get off this bullshit ELEVEN MILLION number that they have been claiming for more than a decade, and we can recognize the REAL number which is AT LEAST TWENTY MILLION.

Just curious where you get the 20 million number from?

 

[OldLady]

There’s a reason they removed the question in the 1st place.

Oh yes because there's nobody who wants or needs to know how many American citizens live in the US.

The Justice Department sought to include the question because it uses data about eligible voters – the citizen voting-age population – to help enforce protections for minority voters (including those who speak languages other than English) under the federal Voting Rights Act. The Justice Department now relies on data from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey, a sample survey that covers 2.6% of the population each year. The department wants more “scope, detail and certainty” that only the full census can provide to enforce the Voting Rights Act, Ross said.

This is the biggest load of codswallop I've heard in awhile. The Justice Department has no need to delve into voting data; that's as political as it gets.
The question however, is not that alarming.

The citizenship question planned for 2020 census: What to know
There are plenty of noncitizens here LEGALLY. However, illegal immigrants, who make up a large portion of some cities and counties, will probably shy away from taking the census at all or will lie, afraid the government may take that information and start using it for other purposes, like deporting them.

 

[Defiant1]

There’s a reason they removed the question in the 1st place.

Oh yes because there's nobody who wants or needs to know how many American citizens live in the US.

The Justice Department sought to include the question because it uses data about eligible voters – the citizen voting-age population – to help enforce protections for minority voters (including those who speak languages other than English) under the federal Voting Rights Act. The Justice Department now relies on data from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey, a sample survey that covers 2.6% of the population each year. The department wants more “scope, detail and certainty” that only the full census can provide to enforce the Voting Rights Act, Ross said.

This is the biggest load of codswallop I've heard in awhile. The Justice Department has no need to delve into voting data; that's as political as it gets.
The question however, is not that alarming.

The citizenship question planned for 2020 census: What to know
There are plenty of noncitizens here LEGALLY. However, illegal immigrants, who make up a large portion of some cities and counties, will probably shy away from taking the census at all or will lie, afraid the government may take that information and start using it for other purposes, like deporting them.

Who are you to say what data the justice department needs?
Why wouldn't we want to get information on illegals so we can deport them?