Judge Strikes Down Citizenship Question in 2020 Census

[Bob Blaylock]

The primary purpose of the census,as established in the Constitution, is to establish populations, in order to establish the number of representatives for each state in the House of Representatives, and the number of members of the Electoral College.

For this purpose, only a count of citizens would be valid. Foreigners—whether here legally or otherwise—are not entitled to representation in Congress nor in the Electoral College, and should not be counted for that purpose.

There are credible estimates that California has as many as nine extra members of Congress, and nine Electoral votes, due to illegal aliens being improperly counted and included in the census. This has the effect of completely disenfranchising several of the smaller states, and amounts to a serious corruption of our electoral system.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I see why it would be on there. i also see why it shouldnt be on there. I dont give a shit either way
I think some of the arguments against it are bogus though.

Really, I offered two. Can you deny either one of them is not a valid and sound premise?

Clearly, to allow this question to be asked, will have two negative effects.

1. Most households with a non citizen will not fill out and send in the census;
2. It puts a target on the back for ICE, and they can make a case for a warrant to detain the named person.

In terms of #1, it will have an effect on revenue sharing, in terms of #2 it will allow ICE to establish dragnets (consider the use of DNA, not used used in terms of this tread) to detain thousands of law abiding non citizens and separate a parent from their children.

Assuming that the noncitizen in question is here legally, I see no reason for either of these concerns.

If one is here illegally, then why do you have a problem with #2, with the authorities being alerted so that this criminal invader may be removed from our country? Are you on the side of the American people, or are you on the side of invading foreign criminals?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

It was removed in the first place because it reduces accuracy which is the whole point of the census

How does more information reduce accuracy?

Left wrong-wing logic.

It's rather like the infamous Orwellian triplet…

• “War is peace!”
• “Slavery is freedom!”
• “Ignorance is strength!”

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The census is used for a lot of other things beside electoral slots. The number of people in a given area need to be counted.
There are other ways to fix the illegal problem. Ignoring them on the census is not one of them.

That is its primary purpose. That is THE purpose for which the Constitution mandates the census. Nothing about any other purposes for which census data might be used justifies anything that would undermine this primary purpose. The census must provide an accurate count of citizens in each state, or else the whole electoral system is compromised.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Well, even though they can't vote, they still live there. A big fat chunk of a politician's constituency in California has voters married to illegals and the children of illegals and etc. etc. So they are representing their people's interests.

Stop with the they can’t vote bullshit! If they can cross the border illegally, falseify records, steal ID they can fucking vote. Remember the illegal who murdered Mollie Tibet’s? He did all of the above! Next stupid utterance?

Look up how Loretta Sanchez, back in 1996, defeated incumbent Bob Dornan, to win a seat in Congress.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

We know for a fact that the citizenship question was included in bad faith and in an effort to undercount minority communities because the Trump administration couldn’t care less about enforcing Voting Rights Act provisions protecting minorities from discrimination, where Trump has pursued a comprehensive agenda seeking to discriminate against minorities.

Who do you really think you're fooling, here? Every sane person, reading your post,knows that what you mean by “minorities” is invading foreign criminals, who have no legitimate right to vote, who have no legitimate right even to be here; and yet you condemn us for not wanting them to have the political representation that they clearly are not entitled to.

It's funny that your side accuses Mr. Trump of allowing foreign interference in our elections, based on dodgy, vapid conspiracy theories about Russia, while your side openly encourages foreign interference in our elections by and on behalf of invading foreign criminals from Mexico and beyond.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Obviously, with so many illegal aliens in the country the question of citizenship must be asked. If we deported all the illegal aliens, then you can remove the question.

We would still have foreigners who are in our country legally. Even though they are allowed to be here, they still are not entitled to representation in Congress nor in the Electoral College; and must be excluded from census counts used for this purpose.

 

[MindWars]

A federal judge ruled on Friday the US government can include citizenship question on the US Census.
It makes complete sense so Democrats are against it.
BREAKING: Federal Judge Declines to Block Citizenship Question from US 2020 Census




This is it democrats are against it that must make it a wonderful move.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A federal judge ruled on Friday the US government can include citizenship question on the US Census.
It makes complete sense so Democrats are against it.
BREAKING: Federal Judge Declines to Block Citizenship Question from US 2020 Census




This is it democrats are against it that must make it a wonderful move.

Beginning of the end of the cheato-crat Party

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why were democrats fighting this?

 

[OldLady]

A couple weeks ago, the headline was that the Courts had STOPPED the question from being on the census. So what is this, a battle between the courts now?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Why were democrats fighting this?

They obviously like flooding the nation with compliant less than bright non citizens.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They also said that an accurate voter base was to be avoided as it presented an "existential threat" to their unAmerican, Fascist Party.

 

[MindWars]

Why were democrats fighting this?

Was that a serious question? " why were democrats fighting for this?"

 

[AvgGuyIA]

A federal judge ruled on Friday the US government can include citizenship question on the US Census.
It makes complete sense so Democrats are against it.
BREAKING: Federal Judge Declines to Block Citizenship Question from US 2020 Census




This is it democrats are against it that must make it a wonderful move.

Seems a reasonable question to ask. How many are not citizens. The count should not help determine how many Congressmen should be allocated to a State. Perhaps, with all the illegals in California, the number of Reps will be reduced.

 

[BlackFlag]

Why were democrats fighting this?

Because it was proven flawed decades ago

 

[OldLady]

A federal judge ruled on Friday the US government can include citizenship question on the US Census.
It makes complete sense so Democrats are against it.
BREAKING: Federal Judge Declines to Block Citizenship Question from US 2020 Census




This is it democrats are against it that must make it a wonderful move.

I googled it and found no news, breaking or otherwise, since Jan. 16. The question is going to the Supreme Court on Feb 19.

Judge bars Trump administration from adding citizenship question to 2020 Census

 

[BlackFlag]

A federal judge ruled on Friday the US government can include citizenship question on the US Census.
It makes complete sense so Democrats are against it.
BREAKING: Federal Judge Declines to Block Citizenship Question from US 2020 Census




This is it democrats are against it that must make it a wonderful move.

I googled it and found no news, breaking or otherwise, since Jan. 16. The question is going to the Supreme Court on Feb 19.

Judge bars Trump administration from adding citizenship question to 2020 Census

Gateway Pundit is a conservative trash site

 

[MindWars]

A federal judge ruled on Friday the US government can include citizenship question on the US Census.
It makes complete sense so Democrats are against it.
BREAKING: Federal Judge Declines to Block Citizenship Question from US 2020 Census




This is it democrats are against it that must make it a wonderful move.

I googled it and found no news, breaking or otherwise, since Jan. 16. The question is going to the Supreme Court on Feb 19.

Judge bars Trump administration from adding citizenship question to 2020 Census

Guess you didn't search well enough nor use the correct terms.

 

[OldLady]

STILL no explanation for how two courts holding opposing opinions and a pending SC hearing in a week gives you some kind of "win."

And thanks a big bunch for the link (not).