Judge orders Trump to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

[Godboy]

Because he represented that he thought his property was worth a certain amount when he applied for loans and had a different valuation when it came to his taxes. That's fraud.

He has not been charged with tax fraud.

 

[Curried Goats]

He has not been charged with tax fraud.

He was charged with civil fraud.

 

[berg80]

In New York, the Trump Brand Is Costing Some Condo Owners

In a one-year window, condos in buildings that had the Trump logo went from selling at a 1 percent premium compared with similar units, to selling for 4 percent less, meaning that Trump condos became a “bargain” among the city’s luxury units, said Mr. Van Nieuwerburgh, a professor of real estate.

Even the Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue, one of the crowning achievements of the Trump brand, whose 80-foot cascade flowing down a wall of peach marble was reportedly built with slabs handpicked at a quarry in Italy by Mr. Trump’s ex-wife, saw the average price per square foot of its condominiums tumble 49 percent since 2013, according to Ondel Hylton, the senior director of content and research at CityRealty. The building’s age, growing competition from the ultra-luxurious condos on nearby Billionaires’ Row and regular protests have all dampened interest, Mr. Hylton said.

By contrast, condominiums in four buildings where the Trump logo was removed at the behest of residents — sometimes after a legal battle — have seen their value shoot back up.
In New York, the Trump Brand Is Costing Some Condo Owners

The brand is toxic. No one wants the name of a rapist on their building.

 

[SweetTea]

Tell it to the Court

That is the problem. I can’t tell it to the court. NYC is a cesspool of left-wing corruption. You are ok with it because it benefits your politics at this time in history, but it is not ok for courts to be politically motivated as this one clearly is.

 

[SweetTea]

The fine reflected the amount of money that they made through the fraud.Any less and they would have benefitted from their dishonesty.

What a laughable joke. The banks wanted to loan them money and made a bunch of money on he deal. It is as simple as that.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What a laughable joke. The banks wanted to loan them money and made a bunch of money on he deal. It is as simple as that.

Obviously it isnt.

 

[j-mac]

Obviously it isnt.

Only to communists....

 

[Marener]

What a laughable joke. The banks wanted to loan them money and made a bunch of money on he deal. It is as simple as that.

The banks wanted a statement of financial condition before they made a loan.

The idea that Trump can say whatever he wants on that statement defies common sense.

 

[mudwhistle]

Why shouldn't Engoron have been the judge in the Trump case. He has been an acting judge in the New York Civil Court for 22 years and has served served in the Manhattan Supreme Court for 11 years.

Well, for one thing this case is out of his jurisdiction.

Because it is a civil offense not a criminal offense. I should have made that clear.

But you folks keep talking about it like it's a crime.
This isn't a crime.
It's essentially the city of New York suing a private citizen.
The kicker here is that nobody is the plaintiff. Nobody has been damaged.
So why the lawsuit?
Because the persons who are carrying this out were asked to do it by the Biden White House.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[mudwhistle]

While those two assholes are going after Trump this is what the streets of NYC are like.

 

[mudwhistle]

Former President Donald Trump Explodes After Judge Engoron Fined, Banned Him - Drops Bombshell Revelations Now That He's Free To Speak

He didn't hold back one bit.

conservativebrief.com

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[mudwhistle]

Soros Owned DA Kim Gardner Found GUILTY on 141 Counts!

ICYMI| St Louis DA Kim Gardner is in a world of hurt after she lost her appeal for refusing to turn over her communications with operatives of George Soros and others in her prosecution of former Gov Eric Greitens. A court has already found that she committed 62 acts of misconduct and 79 cases of...

thebeltwayreport.com

 

[mudwhistle]

I think it's best to look at that from the perspective of a middle school playground (the behaviors match too).

The weak kids want to be on the bully's side, so they stand behind him and cheer him on when he bullies someone else. Then they follow him around the playground because they now belong to the side with the bully. And, of course, they're too weak to call him out on any of his bullying (or anything else, such as the fact that he gets terrible grades) and they choose to believe all his lies, because they want to belong, and they hate some of the people he bullies.

I wish it were more nuanced than that, but it really isn't.

 

[Marener]

Just love how you geniuses believe everything you hear on social media.

 

[mudwhistle]

The crime is in his application for the loan. He lied and got the loan, a loan that might have gone to someone else who was honest. There is good reason for the law and good reason to enforce it.

That's bull shit. There's no set number of loans.
Are you saying that some poor black person is trying to qualify for a construction loan and Trump took his place?
God Damn you're stupid.

The purpose of the loan was to finance a construction project.
Trump was putting his properties up as collateral for the loans.
No bank is going to approve a loan without doing their own appraisal.

 

[Mac1958]

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Yes, you elitists are consistent!

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes, you elitists are consistent!

You think MAGAs are elitists now?

Can you be any further out of touch with reality?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ok, so what they’ve done is told trump he can’t operate in New York, but he can’t operate anywhere else either?

He can start a new corporation in any State but New York. And he can sell licenses, like his sneaker brand.