Judge orders lesbian mother removed from her child’s birth certificate

[TheProgressivePatriot]

if thats what you do for a living no wonder the family structure is so fucked up in this country,,

WHAT!!?? Do you ever have anything to say that makes sense? How is the family strucure fucked up and what exactly did I do to make that happen?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Wait, weren't you a CPS guy?

Yes, I know about children because I had five of them, and because I taught about a thousand of them. Not by working at CPS, for Pete's sake.

Why do you blame the birth mother only? Did you attend their divorce court? Or is this just anti-birth mother bias to justify the non-related woman's rights to custody? If the birth mother is so horrible, why is it good news that they child will be with her? Shouldn't CPS take custody without a warrant, and give the kid to one of the famous CPS abusive foster families?


"non gestational parent?" Why not say "non-biologically related and non-making the effort to adopt person," instead? In my dating days, I dated a couple of single moms who would bring up marriage not to subtly. They both said that bio-dad was out of the picture. Like for. sure. I told them that if our relationship went that far, I would have to adopt the child as my own as part of the joining as a family. For some reason, that cooled them off on the idea.

You have a theory for why?

I do have a theory. They did not like you that much

 

[Seymour Flops]

What the hell are you blathering about now. I blame the bith mother for trying to deprive her ex of parental rights and for depriving the boy of contact with someone who he rellates to as a parent.

You are just making a lot of shit up here and assigning it to me. I did not say that the birth mother was a horrible parent and I diid not say that it was preferable for the child to bewith her. I just said that was the probable outcome. There is no indication that there is anything going on that warrents a CPS intervention. Removing the child and placing him would be the cruelest thing to do.

In your angst about the rights of the non-biological, non-adoptive person, you may have missed this:

Vaughn now lives with Wilson in Oklahoma City. In December 2021, Wilson received an emergency victim protective order from Williams. Wilson said that Williams physically attacked her, though Judge McGuire didn’t mention this when issuing her decision.

Williams really sounds like a person that a two-year old has to have in their lives?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

In your angst about the rights of the non-biological, non-adoptive person, you may have missed this:

Vaughn now lives with Wilson in Oklahoma City. In December 2021, Wilson received an emergency victim protective order from Williams. Wilson said that Williams physically attacked her, though Judge McGuire didn’t mention this when issuing her decision.

Williams really sounds like a person that a two-year old has to have in their lives?

Yes I did miss it. But it does not change much. There is no indication that Williams is a danger to the child and we don't know all of the facts about what was going on between the two women

 

[Seymour Flops]

Yes I did miss it. But it does not change much. There is no indication that Williams is a danger to the child and we don't know all of the facts about what was going on between the two women

Thanks for the admission, and I mean that sincerely. Many posters cannot concede the smallest point.

No, of course we don't know all the facts, so any judging of the judge is a little out of place.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Thanks for the admission, and I mean that sincerely. Many posters cannot concede the smallest point.

No, of course we don't know all the facts, so any judging of the judge is a little out of place.

Thank you. However, regardless of the domestic violence, the judge did not have the authority to terminate parental rights

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Thank you. However, regardless of the domestic violence, the judge did not have the authority to terminate parental rights

There were no parental rights, there, to be terminated.

 

[progressive hunter]

Thank you. However, regardless of the domestic violence, the judge did not have the authority to terminate parental rights

the only person above a judge is god,,
do you want god deciding if she can be on a birth certificate??

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

the only person above a judge is god,,
do you want god deciding if she can be on a birth certificate??

Here is a news flash for you. This is a Constitutional Republic. God has no say in the matter

If you think that the Judge had the authority to terminate parental rights when parental rights was not even a question before the court, please explaine

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

There were no parental rights, there, to be terminated.

Don't you ever get tired of spewing inane bullshit?

 

[progressive hunter]

Here is a news flash for you. This is a Constitutional Republic. God has no say in the matter

If you think that the Judge had the authority to terminate parental rights when parental rights was not even a question before the court, please explaine

you fuck with the bull you get the horns,,

 

[Seymour Flops]

Thank you. However, regardless of the domestic violence, the judge did not have the authority to terminate parental rights

I believe a family court judge does indeed have that authority.

When did the allegedly abusive partner obtain parental rights? Did she have parental rights before the baby was born?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

you fuck with the bull you get the horns,,

Geeezzz I wish that I was as smart and articulate as you

 

[progressive hunter]

Geeezzz I wish that I was as smart and articulate as you

based on what I've seen of you its best you just give up now,,

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I believe a family court judge does indeed have that authority.

Yes they do. But only if a guardianship complaint is field and termination of parental rights is before the court. This judge seem to just tack that bit on as an after thought

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

When did the allegedly abusive partner obtain parental rights? Did she have parental rights before the baby was born?

Come on! Where have you been. As the spouse, she became a legal parent at the time of birth, just like the birth mother. There is a presumption of parenthood just like with hetrosexual couples

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

based on what I've seen of you its best you just give up now,,

Give up what exactly?

 

[progressive hunter]

Give up what exactly?

see what I mean,, youre to fucking stupid to understand your own comment,,

 

[BlackSand]

It is hard to believe that 7 years after the Obergefell decision that established the right to same sex marriage, and the Pavan v. Smith case that same-sex parents of children conceived by a sperm donor and/or birth surrogate should both be listed on the child’s birth certificate, just as is done for different-sex couples who have kids the same way, we have this sort of inhumane treatment of a lesbian.

Where is the equality established in 2015 by the two aforementioned cases? This would never happen with an opposite sex couple. The fact that the sperm donor subsequently petitioned the court for custody does not change that.

Judge orders lesbian mother removed from her child’s birth certificate

Same-sex parents are being encouraged to legally adopt their own children in order to prevent a court from revoking their custodial rights.

www.lgbtqnation.com

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It all could have been avoid if ...

The same sex partner married to the biological mother had legally adopted the child as family law requires for custody concerns.
The same sex married couple wasn't getting a divorce making custody an issue in the first place.

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[TheProgressivePatriot]

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It all could have been avoid if ...

The same sex partner married to the biological mother had legally adopted the child as family law requires for custody concerns.
The same sex married couple wasn't getting a divorce making custody an issue in the first place.

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Yes it could have been avoided but adoption should not be necessary. It's like telling a father that he should adopt his child that his wife gave birth to