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What does President Nelson say, ty? i have not talked with him one on one in years. What does he think about the book sealed with seven seals. I am no Mormon theologian.
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Joseph Smith and the book sealed with seven seals
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My dad and hinkley didn’t get alongMy Favorite was Hinkley.
There was a history between em
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Your dad from Millcreek, tooMy dad and hinkley didn’t get alongMy Favorite was Hinkley.
There was a history between em
UnionYour dad from Millcreek, tooMy dad and hinkley didn’t get alongMy Favorite was Hinkley.
There was a history between em
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When the Lord opens the 7th seal which represents the 7th thousand year period of the earth's temporal existence, we read:
In the beginning of the 7th Seal, the Lord will come and reign upon the earth for a thousand years. This thousand year period is best known as the Mellennium. During Christ's mellennial reign, He will have established peace on earth not only among mankind but also among the entire animal kingdom. The lamb shall lie down with the lion. And the child will be able to play on the hole of the asp. The chapters above tell of the events that will occur in the 7th seal and prior to Christ's second coming. When the 7th seal is opened, there will be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour. Then God will pour out 7 last plagues upon the earth. The last 3 of these 7 plagues are known as the three woes. The last woe of the 3 woes is the second coming of our Lord. His actual coming is described in chapter 19 as such:
Revelation 19:11-21
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
At the time of Christ's coming, the righteous on earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet him and the righteous dead will come out of their graves and resurrect and come up to meet him. The wicked who remain upon the earth will be burned at his presence. Then Satan will be bound and the earth will then rest in peace on its sabbath and peace will reign upon the earth for a thousand years.
In the chapters not mentioned, other details of the pre-mortal war in heaven and events leading up to Christ's second coming are revealed. The view of the LDS is that the book that was sealed is a revelation of the mysteries of God throughout the seven thousand years of its temporal existence. The seven seals upon the book are a representation of each of the seven thousand year periods of this earth's temporal existence. We believe we are now in the latter end of the 6th seal. We believe that it will not be too many more years before our Lord will come and cleanse the earth of all unrighteousness and reign with man upon the earth for a thousand years.
Matthew 24:36:51
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
In the beginning of the 7th Seal, the Lord will come and reign upon the earth for a thousand years. This thousand year period is best known as the Mellennium. During Christ's mellennial reign, He will have established peace on earth not only among mankind but also among the entire animal kingdom. The lamb shall lie down with the lion. And the child will be able to play on the hole of the asp. The chapters above tell of the events that will occur in the 7th seal and prior to Christ's second coming. When the 7th seal is opened, there will be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour. Then God will pour out 7 last plagues upon the earth. The last 3 of these 7 plagues are known as the three woes. The last woe of the 3 woes is the second coming of our Lord. His actual coming is described in chapter 19 as such:
Revelation 19:11-21
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
At the time of Christ's coming, the righteous on earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet him and the righteous dead will come out of their graves and resurrect and come up to meet him. The wicked who remain upon the earth will be burned at his presence. Then Satan will be bound and the earth will then rest in peace on its sabbath and peace will reign upon the earth for a thousand years.
In the chapters not mentioned, other details of the pre-mortal war in heaven and events leading up to Christ's second coming are revealed. The view of the LDS is that the book that was sealed is a revelation of the mysteries of God throughout the seven thousand years of its temporal existence. The seven seals upon the book are a representation of each of the seven thousand year periods of this earth's temporal existence. We believe we are now in the latter end of the 6th seal. We believe that it will not be too many more years before our Lord will come and cleanse the earth of all unrighteousness and reign with man upon the earth for a thousand years.
Matthew 24:36:51
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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Wasn't Gordon Hinkley a huge Democrat?My dad and hinkley didn’t get along
There was a history between em
Or was that Richard G-Spot, or whatever his name is/was?
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God revealed to me that Joseph Smith was a fraud. Not that he minded that so much, because there are so many religious frauds. But, god revealed to me that Joseph Smith was a very poor excuse for a fraud, and he was insulted that so many people believed in him. Even that was tolerable, but Joe just could not keep his britches buttoned, with all that multiple wives stuff.That is why he had him killed in Illinois.
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JS was not killed because of the womens, vandal.
He was ordained, anointed, and set apart as prophet, priest, and king of the world, and his enemies killed him for it.
He was ordained, anointed, and set apart as prophet, priest, and king of the world, and his enemies killed him for it.
Vandalshandle
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JS was not killed because of the womens, vandal.
He was ordained, anointed, and set apart as prophet, priest, and king of the world, and his enemies killed him for it.
Jake, Are you saying that my revelation from god isn't true?
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I am telling you what happened and why. 
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I am telling you what happened and why.
If only the same thing had happened to Jim Jones.......
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White represents being giving a white robe (a spiritual covering) by the lamb. A gold crown (that which is foremost in a pure thoughts in ones own mind) actually represents purity.Lets take a look at the opening of the first seal. According to the revelation given to Joseph Smith, this would represent the first 1000 year period of the earth's temporal existence starting when Adam fell and was cast out of the Garden of Eden.
Revelation 6:1-2
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
John is shown here what is representative of the first thousand years. He sees a white horse and a man sitting on the horse with a bow and a crown upon his head. The man on the white horse goes forth conquering and to conquer.
White is a symbol of purity. The white horse and the man who sits upon him represent the righteousness of God going forth in the beginning of the world to establish righteousness. Adam spread the gospel to his children and they in turn taught their children. Adam lived to be 930 years old. So he lived through most of the time represented by the first seal. Although there were those who did follow after wickedness in those days, many were righteous and great things occurred during the first thousand years. During this era, the prophet Enoch preached unto the people and set up the city of Zion. The people of Zion were so righteous that God took the entire city of Zion up into heaven. Many of the righteous that followed those days were also caught up into the city of Zion.
Genesis 5:18-24
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
A vision given to Enoch the prophet. He sees his city taken into heaven and then sees the future of the earth:
Moses 7:23-69
23 And after that Zion was taken up into heaven, Enoch beheld, and lo, all the nations of the earth were before him;
24 And there came generation upon generation; and Enoch was high and lifted up, even in the bosom of the Father, and of the Son of Man; and behold, the power of Satan was upon all the face of the earth.
25 And he saw angels descending out of heaven; and he heard a loud voice saying: Wo, wo be unto the inhabitants of the earth.
26 And he beheld Satan; and he had a great chain in his hand, and it veiled the whole face of the earth with darkness; and he looked up and laughed, and his angels rejoiced.
27 And Enoch beheld angels descending out of heaven, bearing testimony of the Father and Son; and the Holy Ghost fell on many, and they were caught up by the powers of heaven into Zion.
28 And it came to pass that the God of heaven looked upon the residue of the people, and he wept; and Enoch bore record of it, saying: How is it that the heavens weep, and shed forth their tears as the rain upon the mountains?
29 And Enoch said unto the Lord: How is it that thou canst weep, seeing thou art holy, and from all eternity to all eternity?
30 And were it possible that man could number the particles of the earth, yea, millions of earths like this, it would not be a beginning to the number of thy creations; and thy curtains are stretched out still; and yet thou art there, and thy bosom is there; and also thou art just; thou art merciful and kind forever;
31 And thou hast taken Zion to thine own bosom, from all thy creations, from all eternity to all eternity; and naught but peace, justice, and truth is the habitation of thy throne; and mercy shall go before thy face and have no end; how is it thou canst weep?
32 The Lord said unto Enoch: Behold these thy brethren; they are the workmanship of mine own hands, and I gave unto them their knowledge, in the day I created them; and in the Garden of Eden, gave I unto man his agency;
33 And unto thy brethren have I said, and also given commandment, that they should love one another, and that they should choose me, their Father; but behold, they are without affection, and they hate their own blood;
34 And the fire of mine indignation is kindled against them; and in my hot displeasure will I send in the floods upon them, for my fierce anger is kindled against them.
35 Behold, I am God; Man of Holiness is my name; Man of Counsel is my name; and Endless and Eternal is my name, also.
36 Wherefore, I can stretch forth mine hands and hold all the creations which I have made; and mine eye can pierce them also, and among all the workmanship of mine hands there has not been so great wickedness as among thy brethren.
37 But behold, their sins shall be upon the heads of their fathers; Satan shall be their father, and misery shall be their doom; and the whole heavens shall weep over them, even all the workmanship of mine hands; wherefore should not the heavens weep, seeing these shall suffer?
38 But behold, these which thine eyes are upon shall perish in the floods; and behold, I will shut them up; a prison have I prepared for them.
39 And that which I have chosen hath pled before my face. Wherefore, he suffereth for their sins; inasmuch as they will repent in the day that my Chosen shall return unto me, and until that day they shall be in torment;
40 Wherefore, for this shall the heavens weep, yea, and all the workmanship of mine hands.
41 And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto Enoch, and told Enoch all the doings of the children of men; wherefore Enoch knew, and looked upon their wickedness, and their misery, and wept and stretched forth his arms, and his heart swelled wide as eternity; and his bowels yearned; and all eternity shook.
42 And Enoch also saw Noah, and his family; that the posterity of all the sons of Noah should be saved with a temporal salvation;
43 Wherefore Enoch saw that Noah built an ark; and that the Lord smiled upon it, and held it in his own hand; but upon the residue of the wicked the floods came and swallowed them up.
44 And as Enoch saw this, he had bitterness of soul, and wept over his brethren, and said unto the heavens: I will refuse to be comforted; but the Lord said unto Enoch: Lift up your heart, and be glad; and look.
45 And it came to pass that Enoch looked; and from Noah, he beheld all the families of the earth; and he cried unto the Lord, saying: When shall the day of the Lord come? When shall the blood of the Righteous be shed, that all they that mourn may be sanctified and have eternal life?
46 And the Lord said: It shall be in the meridian of time, in the days of wickedness and vengeance.
47 And behold, Enoch saw the day of the coming of the Son of Man, even in the flesh; and his soul rejoiced, saying: The Righteous is lifted up, and the Lamb is slain from the foundation of the world; and through faith I am in the bosom of the Father, and behold, Zion is with me.
48 And it came to pass that Enoch looked upon the earth; and he heard a voice from the bowels thereof, saying: Wo, wo is me, the mother of men; I am pained, I am weary, because of the wickedness of my children. When shall I rest, and be cleansed from the filthiness which is gone forth out of me? When will my Creator sanctify me, that I may rest, and righteousness for a season abide upon my face?
49 And when Enoch heard the earth mourn, he wept, and cried unto the Lord, saying: O Lord, wilt thou not have compassion upon the earth? Wilt thou not bless the children of Noah?
50 And it came to pass that Enoch continued his cry unto the Lord, saying: I ask thee, O Lord, in the name of thine Only Begotten, even Jesus Christ, that thou wilt have mercy upon Noah and his seed, that the earth might never more be covered by the floods.
51 And the Lord could not withhold; and he covenanted with Enoch, and sware unto him with an oath, that he would stay the floods; that he would call upon the children of Noah;
52 And he sent forth an unalterable decree, that a remnant of his seed should always be found among all nations, while the earth should stand;
53 And the Lord said: Blessed is he through whose seed Messiah shall come; for he saith—I am Messiah, the King of Zion, the Rock of Heaven, which is broad as eternity; whoso cometh in at the gate and climbeth up by me shall never fall; wherefore, blessed are they of whom I have spoken, for they shall come forth with songs of everlasting joy.
54 And it came to pass that Enoch cried unto the Lord, saying: When the Son of Man cometh in the flesh, shall the earth rest? I pray thee, show me these things.
55 And the Lord said unto Enoch: Look, and he looked and beheld the Son of Man lifted up on the cross, after the manner of men;
56 And he heard a loud voice; and the heavens were veiled; and all the creations of God mourned; and the earth groaned; and the rocks were rent; and the saints arose, and were crowned at the right hand of the Son of Man, with crowns of glory;
57 And as many of the spirits as were in prison came forth, and stood on the right hand of God; and the remainder were reserved in chains of darkness until the judgment of the great day.
58 And again Enoch wept and cried unto the Lord, saying: When shall the earth rest?
59 And Enoch beheld the Son of Man ascend up unto the Father; and he called unto the Lord, saying: Wilt thou not come again upon the earth? Forasmuch as thou art God, and I know thee, and thou hast sworn unto me, and commanded me that I should ask in the name of thine Only Begotten; thou hast made me, and given unto me a right to thy throne, and not of myself, but through thine own grace; wherefore, I ask thee if thou wilt not come again on the earth.
60 And the Lord said unto Enoch: As I live, even so will I come in the last days, in the days of wickedness and vengeance, to fulfil the oath which I have made unto you concerning the children of Noah;
61 And the day shall come that the earth shall rest, but before that day the heavens shall be darkened, and a veil of darkness shall cover the earth; and the heavens shall shake, and also the earth; and great tribulations shall be among the children of men, but my people will I preserve;
62 And righteousness will I send down out of heaven; and truth will I send forth out of the earth, to bear testimony of mine Only Begotten; his resurrection from the dead; yea, and also the resurrection of all men; and righteousness and truth will I cause to sweep the earth as with a flood, to gather out mine elect from the four quarters of the earth, unto a place which I shall prepare, an Holy City, that my people may gird up their loins, and be looking forth for the time of my coming; for there shall be my tabernacle, and it shall be called Zion, a New Jerusalem.
63 And the Lord said unto Enoch: Then shalt thou and all thy city meet them there, and we will receive them into our bosom, and they shall see us; and we will fall upon their necks, and they shall fall upon our necks, and we will kiss each other;
64 And there shall be mine abode, and it shall be Zion, which shall come forth out of all the creations which I have made; and for the space of a thousand years the earth shall rest.
65 And it came to pass that Enoch saw the day of the coming of the Son of Man, in the last days, to dwell on the earth in righteousness for the space of a thousand years;
66 But before that day he saw great tribulations among the wicked; and he also saw the sea, that it was troubled, and men’s hearts failing them, looking forth with fear for the judgments of the Almighty God, which should come upon the wicked.
67 And the Lord showed Enoch all things, even unto the end of the world; and he saw the day of the righteous, the hour of their redemption, and received a fulness of joy;
68 And all the days of Zion, in the days of Enoch, were three hundred and sixty-five years.
69 And Enoch and all his people walked with God, and he dwelt in the midst of Zion; and it came to pass that Zion was not, for God received it up into his own bosom; and from thence went forth the saying, Zion is Fled.
Although much righteousness was accomplished in the days of Adam and Enoch, wickedness still was in the hearts of many on the face of the earth and it was to only get worse in the days to come. Thus the white horse and its rider was the purity of the saints who were of such a righteous character that they were taken into heaven as the city of Zion. But they were to return again in the last days to be with the latter-day saints in the new Zion or New Jerusalem to await the second coming of our Lord and Savior on the earth.
I saw a vision about North Korea. In a portion of that a large crowd of people from the north similar to a militia had massed at the border. The mass was wearing a white uniform and each had a brass belt buckle. It took some time and prayers to ultimately understand what it all meant and the colors and metals each represent something. These in the white coverings were washed in the blood of the lamb. The brass belt buckle means that they were each were given a portion of limited authority to help them overcome.
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Eh, Jones was wimp.
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