Jonah Goldberg on the Similarities and Differences between T party and MOWS crowd

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Occupy Wall Street Is Certainly No Tea Party
By Matt Kibbe

The ”Occupy Wall Street” movement desperately wants to be compared to the Tea Party, because such a comparison would give the fledgling, misguided movement unearned legitimacy. But there are three key characteristics that separate OWS from the Tea Party: First, the Occupy protesters pride themselves on provocative resistance to law enforcement and in some cases violence. Second, they disrespect public and private property. Third, and most important, the Occupy movement lacks a coherent guiding philosophy.

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There are some huge differences...violence, focused direction, crime, and decency.

Matt Kibbe, President and CEO of FreedomWorks??? You mean the astroturfing organization that runs the tea party...

 

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Occupy Wall Street Is Certainly No Tea Party
By Matt Kibbe

The ”Occupy Wall Street” movement desperately wants to be compared to the Tea Party, because such a comparison would give the fledgling, misguided movement unearned legitimacy. But there are three key characteristics that separate OWS from the Tea Party: First, the Occupy protesters pride themselves on provocative resistance to law enforcement and in some cases violence. Second, they disrespect public and private property. Third, and most important, the Occupy movement lacks a coherent guiding philosophy.

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There are some huge differences...violence, focused direction, crime, and decency.

Matt Kibbe, President and CEO of FreedomWorks??? You mean the astroturfing organization that runs the tea party...

Does he not make valid points?

 

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There are some huge differences...violence, focused direction, crime, and decency.

Matt Kibbe, President and CEO of FreedomWorks??? You mean the astroturfing organization that runs the tea party...

Does he not make valid points?

Well let's break it down, shall me? Kibbe's asrtoturf group who call themselves the tea party claim to be a reincarnation of the Boston Tea Party.

The original Boston Tea Partiers prided themselves on provocative resistance to law enforcement and in some cases violence. Second, they disrespect public and private property.

They illegally boarded privately owned vessels and dumped property owned by the largest transnational corporation into the Boston Harbor.

On the other hand, this group had a coherent guiding philosophy, picked up after themselves and were well behaved.

 

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Sorry, but the modern Tea Party in no way sees itself as the reincarnation of the Boston Tea Party. The modern Tea Party rather discourages any form of civil disobedience and encourages the finest of good citizenship and conduct. The modern Tea Party, however, draws its same strength from the same desire for personal liberty and resistance to an oppressive, too encroaching, too powerful, and too unresponsive government which was the impetus driving the Boston Tea Party.

 

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Why would Wall Street and the government want to silence these people?

Astroturfing tea party, sponsored by:
FreedomWorks
Koch Industries
Insurance cartels
Dirty energy cartels
Massey Energy Company

Meet Don Blankenship, CEO of Massey Energy Company. Blankenship is also on the Board of Directors of the US Chamber of Commerce.

Massey Energy Company, Blankenship's highly successful strip-mining and mountaintop removal operation is the parent company of Performance Coal Co, where a tragic explosion occurred on April 5th. 29 miners have died. One single violent event in a coal mine run by a company so obsessed with profit it runs roughshod over employees' and neighbors' health and safety.

Here's something else about Don Blankenship and Massey Energy Company: Blankenship spent over $1 million dollars along with other US Chamber buddies like Verizon to sponsor last year's Labor Day Tea Party, also known as the "Friends of America Rally."

Upper Big Branch mine disaster

On April 5, 2010, an explosion at Massey owned Performance Coal Co. mine in Montcoal, West Virginia resulted in the deaths of 29 miners. The explosion, which has become known as the Upper Big Branch Mine disaster, is the worst mining disaster in 40 years, with a greater loss of life than in any mining accident since the 1970s. Mine safety investigators are still searching for an exact cause, though the methane explosion, largely preventable by proper ventilation, is being closely examined. Investigators are also reviewing the historical record of safety violations at the Upper Big Branch mine, which amassed more than 1,100 violations in the past three years, many of them serious, including 50 of them in March 2010 for violations including improper ventilation of methane and poor escape routes. Federal regulators had ordered portions of the mine closed 60 times over the year preceding the explosion. In addition, the FBI has reportedly also launched a probe, investigating possible criminal wrongdoing at the mine, including criminal negligence and possible bribery of federal regulators. Questions about Massey Energy's mining safety practices, along with questions about CEO Don Blankenship's excessive spending on court appointment campaigns, are coming from the public, the Dept of Labor, and President Obama.

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus

 

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Here's the main differences between the Tea Party, and this motley collection of dirty, unbathed, ignorant liberals calling theselves the OWS.

1) The Tea Party is respectful of the community. They conduct themselves in a civil manner, pick up after themselves, and don't destroy public property.

2) The Tea Party knows what they stand for, and can articulate their points of view, consisely and accurately.

3) The Tea Party doesn't engage in violence. Therefore, you won't see Tea Partiers getting clocked in the head with tear gas cannisters like the moronic OWS idiot did.......Shit happens when you get violent with the police. No sympathy for that moron is necessary.

4) The Tea Party isn't doing drugs and peddling them out in public......Nor does theTea Party shit and piss on public streets, sidewalks, or lawns.

5) The Tea Party conducts themselves like decent human beings.....The OWS loons are nothing but dirty animals.

 

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Here's the main differences between the Tea Party, and this motley collection of dirty, unbathed, ignorant liberals calling theselves the OWS.

1) The Tea Party is respectful of the community. They conduct themselves in a civil manner, pick up after themselves, and don't destroy public property.

2) The Tea Party knows what they stand for, and can articulate their points of view, consisely and accurately.

3) The Tea Party doesn't engage in violence. Therefore, you won't see Tea Partiers getting clocked in the head with tear gas cannisters like the moronic OWS idiot did.......Shit happens when you get violent with the police. No sympathy for that moron is necessary.

4) The Tea Party isn't doing drugs and peddling them out in public......Nor does theTea Party shit and piss on public streets, sidewalks, or lawns.

5) The Tea Party conducts themselves like decent human beings.....The OWS loons are nothing but dirty animals.

My local "Occupy" branch was quite proud of the fact that they weren't going to bother with any "steenkeeng" permits to protest, and have happily flouted the law closing all local parks at 10:30, stating, "But we're a legitimate protest movement; that's the difference", because apparently that makes them special and above the laws the rest of us must follow. NOW they're pissed off because the Tucson Police Department has been faithfully arresting and citing them every night for being in the park after hours, and want other people to contribute money to pay for their fines.

Here are some quotes from certain "Occupy Tucson" organizers of my acquaintance:

"The method of 'breaking up' the protest here in tucson is insidious and going to be even more effective than the thuggish actions taken in phoenix.

TPD is going to be citing everyone who stays, every night. Doubtless the fines for the citations are going to be at least a couple hundred dollars per night, possibly short jail time for people who stay multiple nights. Yet no nice photo ops for go viral about police brutality, no easy talking points. Very effective."

"There is a simple ploy to foil the pigs. Don't sign the citations. That will force the pigs to arrest them. the system cannot handle a few hundred additional arrests everyday. They will be released in a few hours without charge."

Charming, no? I especially like how basic enforcement of the loitering laws are "insidious" because they aren't violent. And "pigs". Classy, classy. I'll bet that California transplant twink is the first person to scream for the cops for help when he gets in trouble, though.

 

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"Occupy Madison Loses Permit due to Public Masturbation"

City officials temporarily denied Occupy Madison a new street use permit Wednesday after protesters violated public health and safety conditions and failed to follow the correct processes to renew or amend a permit.

The permit, which expired Wednesday at noon, required Occupy Madison protesters to relocate from their current space at 30 West Mifflin Street, also called 30 on the Square.

A neighboring hotel's staff alleged voiced concerns about having to recently escort hotel employees to and from bus stops late at night due to inappropriate behavior, such as public masturbation, from street protesters.

Occupy Madison loses permit - News - The Daily Cardinal - University of Wisconsin-Madison

Maybe they should add public circle jerking to their list of demands.

 

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Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally

MANCHESTER - A city woman is accused of pimping a 16-year-old girl she met in Victory Park during the Occupy NH demonstrations.

Justina Jensen, 23, of 341 Hanover St., is charged with felony prostitution. Police allege Jensen met a teen at the local protest, which is an offshoot of Occupy Wall Street, and used the Internet to arrange a first liaison for the girl with a man who turned out to be an undercover police officer.

Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally | New Hampshire NEWS03