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Actually, O'Reilly's producer has interviewed many of the OWS loons.....Their demands mirror exactly what was posted........As if these fools actually think any of those demands are feasible.It is interesting however, that though the folks on the website made clear the list wasn't theirs, I didn't see where they objected to the content. Nor have any of the anti-Tea Party and/or pro MOWS folks posting on this thread. Nor have any of the pro MOWS folks posting on an intended-to-be-light thread I started re that spoof list.
My guess is, not a single Tea Partier would agree to anything on that list of 'proposals' but some in the MOWS group would.
Politics
October 09, 2011
By CARA BUCKLEY, NY Times
Panini and Company Cafe normally sells sandwiches to tourists in Lower Manhattan and the residents nearby, but in recent days its owner, Stacey Tzortzatos, has also become something of a restroom monitor. Protesters from Occupy Wall Street, who are encamped in a nearby park, have been tromping in by the scores, and not because they are hungry.
Ms. Tzortzatoss tolerance for the newcomers finally vanished when the sink was broken and fell to the floor. She installed a $200 lock on the bathroom to thwart nonpaying customers, angering the protesters...
Several businesses said they had no choice but to respond to the influx of protesters by closing bathrooms.
Mike Keane, who owns OHaras Restaurant and Pub, said that the theft of soap and toilet paper had soared and that one protester had used the bathroom but had failed to properly use the toilet. Both Ms. Tzortzatos, owner of the Panini and Company Cafe, and Mr. Keane said the protesters rarely bought anything, yet hurled curses when they were told that only paying customers could use their bathrooms.
Steve Zamfotis, manager of another nearby store, Steves Pizza, said: They are pests. They go to the bathroom and dont even buy a cup of coffee.
Read more: 'Occupy Wallstreet' Protesters Steal from Local Businesses - Occupy Wall Street - Fox Nation
Actually, O'Reilly's producer has interviewed many of the OWS loons.....Their demands mirror exactly what was posted........As if these fools actually think any of those demands are feasible.It is interesting however, that though the folks on the website made clear the list wasn't theirs, I didn't see where they objected to the content. Nor have any of the anti-Tea Party and/or pro MOWS folks posting on this thread. Nor have any of the pro MOWS folks posting on an intended-to-be-light thread I started re that spoof list.
My guess is, not a single Tea Partier would agree to anything on that list of 'proposals' but some in the MOWS group would.
Actually, O'Reilly's producer has interviewed many of the OWS loons.....Their demands mirror exactly what was posted........As if these fools actually think any of those demands are feasible.It is interesting however, that though the folks on the website made clear the list wasn't theirs, I didn't see where they objected to the content. Nor have any of the anti-Tea Party and/or pro MOWS folks posting on this thread. Nor have any of the pro MOWS folks posting on an intended-to-be-light thread I started re that spoof list.
My guess is, not a single Tea Partier would agree to anything on that list of 'proposals' but some in the MOWS group would.
I pointed out on another thread that TIME Magazine ALSO posted a similar list of demands in an article about OWS.
If they're going to keep disavowing any and all demands presented as theirs, they might want to consider producing a list of their own. That, or go the fuck home and stop wasting everyone's time. Piss or get off the pot.
Actually, O'Reilly's producer has interviewed many of the OWS loons.....Their demands mirror exactly what was posted........As if these fools actually think any of those demands are feasible.
I pointed out on another thread that TIME Magazine ALSO posted a similar list of demands in an article about OWS.
If they're going to keep disavowing any and all demands presented as theirs, they might want to consider producing a list of their own. That, or go the fuck home and stop wasting everyone's time. Piss or get off the pot.
They are on record at their website as having made no demands.
What do they want?
They don't know.
When do they want it?
They want it now!
I mean really, what kind of numbnut protests like that without having a clue about what they are protesting?
I pointed out on another thread that TIME Magazine ALSO posted a similar list of demands in an article about OWS.
If they're going to keep disavowing any and all demands presented as theirs, they might want to consider producing a list of their own. That, or go the fuck home and stop wasting everyone's time. Piss or get off the pot.
They are on record at their website as having made no demands.
What do they want?
They don't know.
When do they want it?
They want it now!
I mean really, what kind of numbnut protests like that without having a clue about what they are protesting?
My son attends college in Phila. where the Occupy Phila. group is in its sixth day of protesting. I asked if any of his friends attended and he said "no". But he did witness a near fistfight between two students en route to City Hall. One was dressed as a zombie and the other told him "Crazies are not welcome" and "You are making us look like a joke". I suspect there is too much division in their "demands" and that will end up being the end of them. I just hope it fizzles without violence.
Both groups are frustrated with the status quo.
Both groups recognize that our government is failing the people.
That they share in common.
In that respect the similarities between these populist movements protesting against the status quo and that of Germany's populist movements in the 30's is rather similar.
Add to that similarity the fact that the two populist movements hate the other in the USA nearly as much as they did during the Germany period of unrest that eventually lead to the takeover by NAZIs.
Kind of creepy, isn't it?
Here's what I know...neither of these groups speak for me.
Neither has a CLUE how to solve this problem.
If either group achieves power, the government either of them forges won't be one that most Americans will be happy with.
Neither of them, in my opinion has a plan that will work.
Both of them, again in my opinion, has plans that will actually make things worse.
Both groups are frustrated with the status quo.
Both groups recognize that our government is failing the people.
That they share in common.
In that respect the similarities between these populist movements protesting against the status quo and that of Germany's populist movements in the 30's is rather similar.
Add to that similarity the fact that the two populist movements hate the other in the USA nearly as much as they did during the Germany period of unrest that eventually lead to the takeover by NAZIs.
Kind of creepy, isn't it?
Here's what I know...neither of these groups speak for me.
Neither has a CLUE how to solve this problem.
If either group achieves power, the government either of them forges won't be one that most Americans will be happy with.
Neither of them, in my opinion has a plan that will work.
Both of them, again in my opinion, has plans that will actually make things worse.
I see it far differently.
The Tea party is about one thing - fiscal responsibility from our government. They aren't demanding a new constitution- they are happy with the one we have. They just want a return to sanity with regards to spending, taxation, and entitlements. Yes, I know, it would be just horrible if the budget was balanced, citizens were personally responsible, and we started paying down the national debt. Oh the horror!!
These SOWS are another story entirely. They are a sloppy miasma of Marxist rhetoric, stupidity, and incoherence. They see themselves as modern day hippies- content to shit in the streets, go weeks without bathing, and reeking of hypocrisy. They have no real message other than "eat the rich".
Both groups are frustrated with the status quo.
Both groups recognize that our government is failing the people.
That they share in common.
In that respect the similarities between these populist movements protesting against the status quo and that of Germany's populist movements in the 30's is rather similar.
Add to that similarity the fact that the two populist movements hate the other in the USA nearly as much as they did during the Germany period of unrest that eventually lead to the takeover by NAZIs.
Kind of creepy, isn't it?
Here's what I know...neither of these groups speak for me.
Neither has a CLUE how to solve this problem.
If either group achieves power, the government either of them forges won't be one that most Americans will be happy with.
Neither of them, in my opinion has a plan that will work.
Both of them, again in my opinion, has plans that will actually make things worse.
I see it far differently.
The Tea party is about one thing - fiscal responsibility from our government. They aren't demanding a new constitution- they are happy with the one we have. They just want a return to sanity with regards to spending, taxation, and entitlements. Yes, I know, it would be just horrible if the budget was balanced, citizens were personally responsible, and we started paying down the national debt. Oh the horror!!
These SOWS are another story entirely. They are a sloppy miasma of Marxist rhetoric, stupidity, and incoherence. They see themselves as modern day hippies- content to shit in the streets, go weeks without bathing, and reeking of hypocrisy. They have no real message other than "eat the rich".
You're kidding. The tea party elected people that wanted to add a brand spanking new ammendment to require government to have balanced budgets. They also wanted to get rid of the citizenship clause by birth in the 14th Amendment. They also wanted to toss the 17th Amendment. Yeah..they were "happy" with it all right.
And none of these folks were protesting Bush. In fact they tried to tie TARP to Obama.
The Tea Baggers (which they named themselves) was a ridiculous movement. They had every right to protest, however. But it was hardly a homegrown, "natural", grass roots thing. Dick Armey and FOX co-opted the whole thing for the GOP.
Jonah Goldberg, of course, was foisted on the nation by his mom during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, when she milked the attention she received as Linda Tripps cohort to push Jonah into the spotlight and into publishing, where he has remained ever since. At the time, Jonah, 29, was vice-president of his moms company. But through his moms hard work exploiting their joint dirt-mongering in that scandal, he quickly became a National Review Editor. As recorded by this superb and darkly amusing 1998 Salon profile, entitled The Jester of Monicagate: How Lucianne Goldbergs son Jonah has turned his 15 minutes of fame into a full-time job:
Jonah, agent fatale Lucianne Goldbergs 29-year-old son, entered the national stage when he listened to the Linda Tripp tapes with his mom. . . . .
From an early age, his mother, who has acknowledged being an undercover Republican political operative during the McGovern campaign, exposed her son to feisty right-wing hi-jinks and instilled in him a strong sense of family loyalty and affection. Indeed, Goldberg says he first entered the media fray to defend my mom from those who deemed her the money-grubbing Wicked Witch of the Upper West Side.
National Review, like Jonah, hates handouts, believes strongly in the glorious virtues of self-sufficiency and pulling oneself up by ones bootstraps (and, apparently, by ones unsevered umbilical cords); demands meritocratic policies; and is filled with spine-stiffening courage and toughness. Theyre the people who hate affirmative action because of how unfair and un-meritocratic it is, but who thrive on legacy admissions to college and have their moms and dads get them jobs and make their careers.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Jonah Goldberg, of course, was foisted on the nation by his mom during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, when she milked the attention she received as Linda Tripps cohort to push Jonah into the spotlight and into publishing, where he has remained ever since. At the time, Jonah, 29, was vice-president of his moms company. But through his moms hard work exploiting their joint dirt-mongering in that scandal, he quickly became a National Review Editor. As recorded by this superb and darkly amusing 1998 Salon profile, entitled The Jester of Monicagate: How Lucianne Goldbergs son Jonah has turned his 15 minutes of fame into a full-time job:
Jonah, agent fatale Lucianne Goldbergs 29-year-old son, entered the national stage when he listened to the Linda Tripp tapes with his mom. . . . .
From an early age, his mother, who has acknowledged being an undercover Republican political operative during the McGovern campaign, exposed her son to feisty right-wing hi-jinks and instilled in him a strong sense of family loyalty and affection. Indeed, Goldberg says he first entered the media fray to defend my mom from those who deemed her the money-grubbing Wicked Witch of the Upper West Side.
National Review, like Jonah, hates handouts, believes strongly in the glorious virtues of self-sufficiency and pulling oneself up by ones bootstraps (and, apparently, by ones unsevered umbilical cords); demands meritocratic policies; and is filled with spine-stiffening courage and toughness. Theyre the people who hate affirmative action because of how unfair and un-meritocratic it is, but who thrive on legacy admissions to college and have their moms and dads get them jobs and make their careers.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
Friedrich Nietzsche
How does any of this relate to his argument? Who Jonah Goldberg is, or who his parents are have no relevance to this discussion. His argument is valid or not valid based on his facts and his reasoning, not because of his employer or his parents.
I only included his name because I stole the text from his newsletter. You aren't allowed to present other people's ideas as your own. You would realize that if you actually had any ideas.
Returning to his basic thesis, there is a huge amount of disgust over government -big business incest. It is the basis for the slavish devotion of the adherents of Ron Paul, Sarah Palin and Denis Kusinich. There is a huge amount of disgust over this.
Goldberg is not saying this annoyance is wrong. He is saying the Tea Party folks have a better understanding of the fundamental issue, and the remedies of the OWS are worse than the disease because they want to compound the problem and move it to their personal advantage rather than fix it.
Actually, O'Reilly's producer has interviewed many of the OWS loons.....Their demands mirror exactly what was posted........As if these fools actually think any of those demands are feasible.
I pointed out on another thread that TIME Magazine ALSO posted a similar list of demands in an article about OWS.
If they're going to keep disavowing any and all demands presented as theirs, they might want to consider producing a list of their own. That, or go the fuck home and stop wasting everyone's time. Piss or get off the pot.
They are on record at their website as having made no demands.
What do they want?
They don't know.
When do they want it?
They want it now!
I mean really, what kind of numbnut protests like that without having a clue about what they are protesting?
Jonah Goldberg, of course, was foisted on the nation by his mom during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, when she milked the attention she received as Linda Tripps cohort to push Jonah into the spotlight and into publishing, where he has remained ever since. At the time, Jonah, 29, was vice-president of his moms company. But through his moms hard work exploiting their joint dirt-mongering in that scandal, he quickly became a National Review Editor. As recorded by this superb and darkly amusing 1998 Salon profile, entitled The Jester of Monicagate: How Lucianne Goldbergs son Jonah has turned his 15 minutes of fame into a full-time job:
Jonah, agent fatale Lucianne Goldbergs 29-year-old son, entered the national stage when he listened to the Linda Tripp tapes with his mom. . . . .
From an early age, his mother, who has acknowledged being an undercover Republican political operative during the McGovern campaign, exposed her son to feisty right-wing hi-jinks and instilled in him a strong sense of family loyalty and affection. Indeed, Goldberg says he first entered the media fray to defend my mom from those who deemed her the money-grubbing Wicked Witch of the Upper West Side.
National Review, like Jonah, hates handouts, believes strongly in the glorious virtues of self-sufficiency and pulling oneself up by ones bootstraps (and, apparently, by ones unsevered umbilical cords); demands meritocratic policies; and is filled with spine-stiffening courage and toughness. Theyre the people who hate affirmative action because of how unfair and un-meritocratic it is, but who thrive on legacy admissions to college and have their moms and dads get them jobs and make their careers.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
Friedrich Nietzsche
