John James , even pro life when lady is raped, and ? is when a mothers life is at risk!!

[Broken Wing]

when they are born

It's the Jason Bourne trilogy.

The Bourne Conspiracy, the Bourne Identity, the Bourne Ultimatum. Something about the titles that almost rings a bell before even getting started on the content of the books.

Isaac's brother Esau who sold his birthright. And don't forget the fellows from the book of the Acts who assaulted the house of Jason.

Too much government paperwork, too many birthing certificates, government-mandated vaccines, street hookers running shady midwifery businesses.

What the hell are you trying to say?

 

[justinacolmena]

What the hell are you trying to say?

People are "Bourned" and served with a birthing certificate above all other forms of identification.

It arises out of a Roman (i.e., Italian, French, Romanian, Spanish, Portuguese, South American) cultural obsession with childbirth, birthing and mothering, nursing and childcare, the mother's maiden name at the bank, and so on and so forth.

Roman, I say. I mean there's a "local" district for vital statistics, but the same customs and protocols are observed and expected as for every other such district throughout the world.

The collusion, fraternization, and collaboration between and among such districts occurs through informal or "hidden" ad hoc channels or employees associations of various denominations.

Recall from the Holy Bible the death of the firstborn following the nine plagues of Egypt. When we say "firstborn" here we only mean that brief time when the infant was literally "first" "born" — a newborn infant was only accounted as firstborn until one of those cruel midwives abandoned it to turn her attention to the next birth on duty.

When Mt Sinai erupted and blotted out the sun for three days and three nights, the Egyptian Sun-God worshippers were terrified by the horrible darkness, and the firstborn infants died when they drew in that fine volcanic ash with their first breath out of the womb.

 

[Penelope]

I really don't care who has an abortion or not, and Israel agrees with me, they have abortion and even pay for it.

How did Israel creep into this conversation?

I’m an American

But you base your belief on the Bible don't you? Its a fallacy the bible said anything about abortion, but the the Jewish Priest tried to make a woman miscarry if she had been adulteress in the OT.

Also the Jews who value pregnancy's say a fetus is not a human till it takes its first breath.

Shame on the Jews if they think a baby isn't human till it's born.

Well a baby is human , but a fetus is not according to the jews.

 

[Penelope]

Penelope says if a woman has an abortion it's none of our business, but if a slave trader captured her and sold her at auction to a plantation owner to pick cotton against her will, would that be our business?

According to her logic, no.

Yes , can a fetus talk?? NO!!!

Babies don't talk you stupid bastard.

No its a fetus and fetuses do not talk.

 

[Penelope]

If your a Christian you are a Jew, the whole of the New Testament was wrote by Jews.


Conclusion
While the Talmud gives the full status of humanness to a child at birth, the rabbinical writings have partially extended the acquisition of humanness to the 13th postnatal day of life for full-term infants. The Babylonian Talmud Yevamot 69b states that: “the embryo is considered to be mere water until the fortieth day.” Afterwards, it is considered subhuman until it is born.
Keywords: Embryo, Human life, Cloning, Preembryo, Jewish religion

The beginning of human life: Status of embryo. Perspectives in Halakha (Jewish Religious Law)

The Jewish religion is characterized by a strict association between faith and practical precept. Jewish law has two sections, the written and the oral tradition. The foundation of the written law and the origin of authority is the Torah, the first five ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

No, becoming a christian does not make you follow the current "teachings" of Jews.

Sure it does, all the books of the NT was wrote by Jews, and most of the NT is based on the OT. What Christian sect are you??

 

[Penelope]

I am minding my own business is what you should do

You dont mind your own business when you think a racist cop has murdered an innocent black man.

They are people, different from a fetus which is in the Mothers womb.

 

[Chuz Life]

Well a baby is human , but a fetus is not according to the jews.

And, according to modern day scientists?

 

[Broken Wing]

I really don't care who has an abortion or not, and Israel agrees with me, they have abortion and even pay for it.

How did Israel creep into this conversation?

I’m an American

But you base your belief on the Bible don't you? Its a fallacy the bible said anything about abortion, but the the Jewish Priest tried to make a woman miscarry if she had been adulteress in the OT.

Also the Jews who value pregnancy's say a fetus is not a human till it takes its first breath.

Shame on the Jews if they think a baby isn't human till it's born.

Well a baby is human , but a fetus is not according to the jews.

Penelope says if a woman has an abortion it's none of our business, but if a slave trader captured her and sold her at auction to a plantation owner to pick cotton against her will, would that be our business?

According to her logic, no.

Yes , can a fetus talk?? NO!!!

Babies don't talk you stupid bastard.

No its a fetus and fetuses do not talk.

A "fetus" is a baby and a human.

 

[Broken Wing]

If your a Christian you are a Jew, the whole of the New Testament was wrote by Jews.


Conclusion
While the Talmud gives the full status of humanness to a child at birth, the rabbinical writings have partially extended the acquisition of humanness to the 13th postnatal day of life for full-term infants. The Babylonian Talmud Yevamot 69b states that: “the embryo is considered to be mere water until the fortieth day.” Afterwards, it is considered subhuman until it is born.
Keywords: Embryo, Human life, Cloning, Preembryo, Jewish religion

The beginning of human life: Status of embryo. Perspectives in Halakha (Jewish Religious Law)

The Jewish religion is characterized by a strict association between faith and practical precept. Jewish law has two sections, the written and the oral tradition. The foundation of the written law and the origin of authority is the Torah, the first five ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

No, becoming a christian does not make you follow the current "teachings" of Jews.

Sure it does, all the books of the NT was wrote by Jews, and most of the NT is based on the OT. What Christian sect are you??

I follow the Bible. The Bible is not the current teachings of the Jews. Most of the Jews rejected Jesus, and to this day are still waiting for the Messiah who already came over 2000 years ago. Yes, the Bible was written by Jews. Jews were God's chosen people. But since the Jews rejected Jesus, the good news about Him was spread to the gentiles as well. Being a Christian means you follow the teachings in the Bible, not the current teachings of Jews.

 

[Chuz Life]

I follow the Bible. The Bible is not the current teachings of the Jews. Most of the Jews rejected Jesus, and to this day are still waiting for the Messiah who already came over 2000 years ago. Yes, the Bible was written by Jews. Jews were God's chosen people. But since the Jews rejected Jesus, the good news about Him was spread to the gentiles as well. Being a Christian means you follow the teachings in the Bible, not the current teachings of Jews.

Forgive me if this is crass.

You don't really need the Bible to know that an abortion kills a child.

Do you?

 

[Broken Wing]

I follow the Bible. The Bible is not the current teachings of the Jews. Most of the Jews rejected Jesus, and to this day are still waiting for the Messiah who already came over 2000 years ago. Yes, the Bible was written by Jews. Jews were God's chosen people. But since the Jews rejected Jesus, the good news about Him was spread to the gentiles as well. Being a Christian means you follow the teachings in the Bible, not the current teachings of Jews.

Forgive me if this is crass.

You don't really need the Bible to know that an abortion kills a child.

Do you?

You shouldn't need a Bible to know that. I think most know murder is wrong. Unfortunately, people have been deceived into thinking a baby in the womb is not human, and therefore it's not murder to end it.

 

[BlueGin]

A women's right to choose

I thought gender was a social construct? Men can be women now, so yes, men can tell women what they can do with “their body”.

Can men get pregnant??

Why do transgenders force hospitals into giving them pregnancy tests ?

 

[BlueGin]

I really don't care who has an abortion or not, and Israel agrees with me, they have abortion and even pay for it.

How did Israel creep into this conversation?

I’m an American

But you base your belief on the Bible don't you? Its a fallacy the bible said anything about abortion, but the the Jewish Priest tried to make a woman miscarry if she had been adulteress in the OT.

Also the Jews who value pregnancy's say a fetus is not a human till it takes its first breath.

Shame on the Jews if they think a baby isn't human till it's born.

Well a baby is human , but a fetus is not according to the jews.

Apparently a fetus is a human baby. All of the media,the entertainment industry and fans came out and offered condolences to John Legand for his wife miscarrying their “baby”.

Ya’ll already blew your narrative. You might as well give it up already.

 

[Flash]

The opposition to abortion is about abortion on demand for the sake of convenience, which is despicable.

96% of all abortion is for convenience, not rape, incest or medical reasons.

 

[Chuz Life]

You shouldn't need a Bible to know that. I think most know murder is wrong. Unfortunately, people have been deceived into thinking a baby in the womb is not human, and therefore it's not murder to end it.

Right, so why bring Bible and religion into it, if (as you said) it is not needed?

Doing so will only feed the leftardz wrong headed assumptions that all you are doing is pushing your religious views on everyone else.

 

[Broken Wing]

You shouldn't need a Bible to know that. I think most know murder is wrong. Unfortunately, people have been deceived into thinking a baby in the womb is not human, and therefore it's not murder to end it.

Right, so why bring Bible and religion into it, if (as you said) it is not needed?

Doing so will only feed the leftardz wrong headed assumptions that all you are doing is pushing your religious views on everyone else.

I didn't bring it up. I was replying to what someone else said.

 

[Mac-7]

Well a baby is human , but a fetus is not according to the jews.

And now you approve of a theoracy for America

 

[Mac-7]

They are people, different from a fetus which is in the Mothers womb.

Now you are mixing political with biology

the unborn child is as human as you or ms

 

[Chuz Life]

I didn't bring it up. I was replying to what someone else said.

Ok.

If you agree that you don't need religion to know that an abortion kills a child. . .

Why take the bait?

Why not focus on the non religious, biological facts, instead?

 

[Mac1958]

They have to be against all abortion always, or they are hypocrites.

Life is either "sacred", or it is not.