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His hand may not be as full as your diaper, but then neither is the nearest cesspool.
Jews Should Get Over The Holocaust
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His hand may not be as full as your diaper, but then neither is the nearest cesspool.
What an absolutely stupid, bigoted post! If your people had lot millions to tyrants like that, would YOU "get over it"?
And, yes, Stalin killed a lot more of his own people. Should Eastern Europeans get over that too.
HISTORY OF WESTERN CIV. ----was a requirement in my college---
freshman year. The PROF was UKRAINIAN-----to take the exam---I
read the textbook------his lectures centered ENTIRELY on the genocide
comitted by Stalin in the Ukraine. He spoke with a marked "accent"---
---probably lived thru it as a child-------he described the starvation and
people stumbling and dying......It did not occur to me to say "FUHGET
ABOUT IT" He seemed obsessed but certainly KNEW a lot about the
event. Being a student in that class -----was no fun----but it was
informative on that one topic
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Nope, they were not extermination nor slave labor camps, and do even suggest the internment camps were such and meant as such clearly reveals you would support national socialism.
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The post is based on a rant from someone named James Miller who may or may not be a PHD. Even dumb assed PHD's should have a basic understanding of world events and understand that the Jewish state of Israel would be murdering Germans if they hadden't gotten over the Holocaust. The problem for anti-semites and even PHD anti-semites is that they didn't get over the Holocaust. Dumb assed academics have been teaching dumb assed kids that the 6th century jihad is still a logical concept.
Jewish-Muslim cooperation reaches Vienna - Israel Jewish Scene, Ynetnews
There are some among the Muslim community who don't think 'Jews should get over the Holocaust'......
There are some among the Muslim community who don't think 'Jews should get over the Holocaust'......
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Fred Leuchter’s “Indiscretion”
Joseph P. Bellinger
At the present time, there are no “Holocaust denial” laws in the United States of America, although attempts have been repeatedly made behind the scenes by Jewish organizations and individuals to try and penalize “deniers” by various means. When one ventures into the arena of “Holocaust denial,” unpleasant consequences invariably ensue.
Against those whose opinions and evidence challenge the conclusions of mainstream historians, smear, electronic harassment, loss of employment, denunciations to employers, character assassination and poison pen letters are the usual methods employed by determined groups and individuals seeking to squelch free speech and open debate. In some rare cases, outright violence has been used in an attempt to put “deniers” out of business.
For example, on July 4, 1984, arsonists set fire to the warehouse of the Institute for Historical Review, resulting in an estimated $400,000 worth of damage.1 The suspected arsonists were former members of the Jewish Defense League, whose leader at the time, Irv Rubin, was later arrested and accused of conspiring to bomb a Los Angeles mosque in December 2001. The 56-year-old Rubin and his associate, 59-year-old Earl Kugel, were subsequently arrested and arraigned on a charge of conspiracy to bomb private and government property. In November 2002, Rubin, who was said to be despondent and terrified over the prospect of an upcoming trial, allegedly committed suicide by slitting his own throat and plummeting off a twenty-foot balcony in the Los Angeles County jail. His accomplice, Earl Kugel, pled guilty and was sentenced to twenty years’ imprisonment in a federal prison, where he was subsequently killed by a fellow inmate.
Inconvenient History | A Quarterly Journal for Free Historical Inquiry
Joseph P. Bellinger
At the present time, there are no “Holocaust denial” laws in the United States of America, although attempts have been repeatedly made behind the scenes by Jewish organizations and individuals to try and penalize “deniers” by various means. When one ventures into the arena of “Holocaust denial,” unpleasant consequences invariably ensue.
Against those whose opinions and evidence challenge the conclusions of mainstream historians, smear, electronic harassment, loss of employment, denunciations to employers, character assassination and poison pen letters are the usual methods employed by determined groups and individuals seeking to squelch free speech and open debate. In some rare cases, outright violence has been used in an attempt to put “deniers” out of business.
For example, on July 4, 1984, arsonists set fire to the warehouse of the Institute for Historical Review, resulting in an estimated $400,000 worth of damage.1 The suspected arsonists were former members of the Jewish Defense League, whose leader at the time, Irv Rubin, was later arrested and accused of conspiring to bomb a Los Angeles mosque in December 2001. The 56-year-old Rubin and his associate, 59-year-old Earl Kugel, were subsequently arrested and arraigned on a charge of conspiracy to bomb private and government property. In November 2002, Rubin, who was said to be despondent and terrified over the prospect of an upcoming trial, allegedly committed suicide by slitting his own throat and plummeting off a twenty-foot balcony in the Los Angeles County jail. His accomplice, Earl Kugel, pled guilty and was sentenced to twenty years’ imprisonment in a federal prison, where he was subsequently killed by a fellow inmate.
Inconvenient History | A Quarterly Journal for Free Historical Inquiry
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Leuchter submitted samples taken from the alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek to Alpha Analytical Laboratories, a top forensic laboratory in Massachusetts in order to test them for cyanide residues. The samples were analyzed to determine the total iron and total cyanide content. Each sample received an identification number. The results of the tests were startling, in that they revealed little or no actual presence of cyanide compounds in most of the samples submitted.
After receiving the results of the test, Leuchter prepared a monograph, thereafter known as the Leuchter Report, combining his personal knowledge of gas chamber facilities and their operation in the United States with the information he had garnered from his onsite inspection of Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Majdanek.
In Leuchter’s professional view, the facilities allegedly used to gas over one million people at Auschwitz were crude, inefficient, rudimentary and unsafe.
Leuchter’s conclusions were later confirmed by a number of independent researchers, such as professional engineer Walter Lüftl of Austria and Germar Rudolf, formerly associated with the prestigious Max Planck Institute in Germany.
Dr. William B. Lindsey, a retired American chemist who was employed for 33 years by the DuPont Corporation, actually anticipated Leuchter’s testimony in the first Zündel trial in 1985. Based upon his own investigation of the site at Auschwitz, Lindsey declared under oath:
“I have come to the conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully killed with Zyklon B in this manner. I consider it absolutely impossible.”5
A subsequent examination conducted by the Krakow Forensic Institute on behalf of the Auschwitz Main Museum undertaken in September 1990, paralleled the findings contained in the Leuchter Report. This fact is especially pertinent since their report was ostensibly undertaken to refute Leuchter’s conclusions.
Inconvenient History | A Quarterly Journal for Free Historical Inquiry
After receiving the results of the test, Leuchter prepared a monograph, thereafter known as the Leuchter Report, combining his personal knowledge of gas chamber facilities and their operation in the United States with the information he had garnered from his onsite inspection of Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Majdanek.
In Leuchter’s professional view, the facilities allegedly used to gas over one million people at Auschwitz were crude, inefficient, rudimentary and unsafe.
Leuchter’s conclusions were later confirmed by a number of independent researchers, such as professional engineer Walter Lüftl of Austria and Germar Rudolf, formerly associated with the prestigious Max Planck Institute in Germany.
Dr. William B. Lindsey, a retired American chemist who was employed for 33 years by the DuPont Corporation, actually anticipated Leuchter’s testimony in the first Zündel trial in 1985. Based upon his own investigation of the site at Auschwitz, Lindsey declared under oath:
“I have come to the conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully killed with Zyklon B in this manner. I consider it absolutely impossible.”5
A subsequent examination conducted by the Krakow Forensic Institute on behalf of the Auschwitz Main Museum undertaken in September 1990, paralleled the findings contained in the Leuchter Report. This fact is especially pertinent since their report was ostensibly undertaken to refute Leuchter’s conclusions.
Inconvenient History | A Quarterly Journal for Free Historical Inquiry
SFC Ollie
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You do realize that you can do all the BS research you want but that the Germans kept very precise and accurate records and that most of those records survived. And are in storage at Bad Arolsen Germany.
Those records are very self incriminating.......Did the Germans invent a lie to tell on themselves?
Those records are very self incriminating.......Did the Germans invent a lie to tell on themselves?
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You do realize that you can do all the BS research you want but that the Germans kept very precise and accurate records and that most of those records survived. And are in storage at Bad Arolsen Germany.
Those records are very self incriminating.......Did the Germans invent a lie to tell on themselves?
Lol, so what do they say?
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In 1998, Fred Leuchter was contacted by film director Errol Morris, who expressed his interest in filming his story, allowing Leuchter an opportunity to respond to his detractors, which he did in the following terms:
“Of course I'm not an anti-Semite. I have a lot of friends that are Jewish. I've lost Jewish friends, too, because of what's happened. I bear no ill will to any Jews any place, whether they're in the United States or abroad. I bear a great deal of ill will to those people that have come after me, those people who have persecuted and prosecuted me, but that's got nothing to do with them being Jewish. That only has to do with the fact that they've been interfering with my right to live, think, breathe, and earn a living.... They've expressed their unquestioned intent of destroying me simply because I testified in Canada, not because I have any other affiliation with any anti-Semitic organization, not because I'm affiliated with any Nazi or neo-Nazi organization.”
When, toward the end of the film, Morris asks Leuchter, "Have you ever thought that you might be wrong, or do you think that you could make a mistake,?" Leuchter replies:
“No, I'm past that. When I attempted to turn those facilities into gas execution facilities and was unable to, I made a decision at that point that I wasn't wrong. And perhaps that's why I did it. At least it cleared my mind, so I know that I left no stone unturned. I did everything possible to substantiate and prove the existence of the gas chambers, and I was unable to.”
“Of course I'm not an anti-Semite. I have a lot of friends that are Jewish. I've lost Jewish friends, too, because of what's happened. I bear no ill will to any Jews any place, whether they're in the United States or abroad. I bear a great deal of ill will to those people that have come after me, those people who have persecuted and prosecuted me, but that's got nothing to do with them being Jewish. That only has to do with the fact that they've been interfering with my right to live, think, breathe, and earn a living.... They've expressed their unquestioned intent of destroying me simply because I testified in Canada, not because I have any other affiliation with any anti-Semitic organization, not because I'm affiliated with any Nazi or neo-Nazi organization.”
When, toward the end of the film, Morris asks Leuchter, "Have you ever thought that you might be wrong, or do you think that you could make a mistake,?" Leuchter replies:
“No, I'm past that. When I attempted to turn those facilities into gas execution facilities and was unable to, I made a decision at that point that I wasn't wrong. And perhaps that's why I did it. At least it cleared my mind, so I know that I left no stone unturned. I did everything possible to substantiate and prove the existence of the gas chambers, and I was unable to.”
The fact remains that they WERE concentration camps. Over 10,000 Japanese AMERICANS died in them. And, they were built by Roosevelt who was a fan of Uncle Joe. So, in the mid 20th century there were three socialist experiments running...they ALL used concentration camps.
The difference was the US had a long tradition of individual thought and a distrust of collectivist thinking so the violations of the Constitution could only go so far. Now, after decades of collectivist dogma being rammed down the throats of our children, I think those camps will stay up, and do far more damage when next they come around.
So, basically he's incompetent or a prevaricator, is what he's saying. The chambers were designed to hold 800 people. No small logistical effort there. It takes a small army of people to run them. Of course the MOUNTAINS of photographic evidence is discounted out of hand.
What silly people.
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Agreed. And some on the Left would much prefer concentration camps for right wing Americans. Just ask 'em.
They would call them "re-education camps" just as they did in the wonderful Utopian paradises of Communist China and Vietnam.
Where does the 10,000 Japanese Americans died in Internment Camps come from? Does anyone have a source or link?
SFC Ollie
Still Marching
You do realize that you can do all the BS research you want but that the Germans kept very precise and accurate records and that most of those records survived. And are in storage at Bad Arolsen Germany.
Those records are very self incriminating.......Did the Germans invent a lie to tell on themselves?
Lol, so what do they say?
You know what they say, but won't admit it.
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