Zone1 Jew Hatred - I don't get it.

[ding]

Look up the early writings of Paul of Tarsus and then the gospels. All Jew haters believe those words to be true. That Jews killed Jesus and kept the world from being saved.

That is at the root of Christianity and lies, fear and hatred of Jews.

Nothing has changed in 2000 years since the first letters to Paul's followers were written.

Nazism, Communism, etc are all consequences of 2000 years of endless attacks on Jews, verbal and physical for daring to not accept Jesus and not save the world.

No such thing would have been possible, to save the world, that is not what waiting for a Messiah is all about. It is about liberating the Jews from their conquerors. Paul invented something else and the rest is a horrible history since then.

Leviticus 26:33-46

 

[daveman]

I am fascinated. What part in the crucifixion of Jesus did the sunday
school marm tell you was controlled by Pharisees &/or Sadduccees?

Foxfyre disagreed with my statement about the Jews having no choice in the crucifixion. I agreed with them on the next to the last sentence of that post.

Saudi arabia has a "large thriving jewish population"? Have you ever
known a Saudi or a Saudi jew or a Jew who had been to Saudi arabia?

I was being facetious with what's-his-name, since he doesn't want to believe Muslims want all Jews dead.

 

[daveman]

Jesus could not be G-D of Abraham incarnate. That is not Judaism. It is definitely Paganism where Zeus or Jupiter have a child with a human. That is classic in Greek and other mythologies.

Jews were waiting for a Liberator to free them of the Roman conquest. There had been many like Jesus before, and after, who did not fulfill the role as the Maccabees had done a hundred years before, defeating the Persians and Greek. Which is where the holiday of Hannukah comes from.

The G-D of Abraham, which Jesus followed, had nothing to do with the idea of turning a human into a god. Which happened much later as Jesus went from being a Demi god to a full god, creator of the Universe by much later Christians after Rome took over Christianity.


If Jesus was a god, Judaism would not be Judaism - following one G-D, but just like paganism, having more than one god.

First commandment: Thou shall not have any other gods but me.

Do you not understand the nature of the Trinity? Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? All three are one.

 

[daveman]

Look up the early writings of Paul of Tarsus and then the gospels. All Jew haters believe those words to be true. That Jews killed Jesus and kept the world from being saved.

Everyone has the opportunity of being saved. Jesus' sacrifice ensured that. No one is prevented.

 

[BreezeWood]

The Nazi Party were not motivated by Christianity.

they would not have existed otherwise ...

from the beginning to the next to last day - then they turned to daveman and said they were w/ them.

 

[Foxfyre]

Jesus could not be G-D of Abraham incarnate. That is not Judaism. It is definitely Paganism where Zeus or Jupiter have a child with a human. That is classic in Greek and other mythologies.

Jews were waiting for a Liberator to free them of the Roman conquest. There had been many like Jesus before, and after, who did not fulfill the role as the Maccabees had done a hundred years before, defeating the Persians and Greek. Which is where the holiday of Hannukah comes from.

The G-D of Abraham, which Jesus followed, had nothing to do with the idea of turning a human into a god. Which happened much later as Jesus went from being a Demi god to a full god, creator of the Universe by much later Christians after Rome took over Christianity.


If Jesus was a god, Judaism would not be Judaism - following one G-D, but just like paganism, having more than one god.

First commandment: Thou shall not have any other gods but me.

And I think you completely missed the point. But it's okay. Do have a lovely evening.

 

[BreezeWood]

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Christ was going to be sacrificed. That was always God's Plan, and He made it happen. The Jews extant were part of the Plan; they had no choice in the matter. To blame the Jews for Christ's sacrifice is like blaming the hammer because you hit your thumb with it

jesus, the 1st century events are the repudiation of judaism's false commandments, hereditary idolatry is why the jews crucified him - that much jesus knew from the beginning and new its historical significance for the future for the fruition of the true religion and the goal for remission as their goal in sacrificing their own life and the heavenly jurisprudence they had aquired - the claims above are those of the crucifiers themselves.

the claim by jews, zionism the religious state, apartheid, religious selectivity are no different than nazi germany nor islam or christianity - the real issue is to bring all the crucifiers to justice - there is not a dimes difference between any of them.

 

[daveman]

jesus, the 1st century events are the repudiation of judaism's false commandments, hereditary idolatry is why the jews crucified him - that much jesus knew from the beginning and new its historical significance for the future for the fruition of the true religion and the goal for remission as their goal in sacrificing their own life and the heavenly jurisprudence they had aquired - the claims above are those of the crucifiers themselves.

the claim by jews, zionism the religious state, apartheid, religious selectivity are no different than nazi germany nor islam or christianity - the real issue is to bring all the crucifiers to justice - there is not a dimes difference between any of them.

You know you shouldn't just make up shit about religion, right?

 

[irosie91]

they would not have existed otherwise ...

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from the beginning to the next to last day - then they turned to daveman and said they were w/ them.

unfortunately----SO TRUE. Constantine was the first Nazi

 

[ding]

unfortunately----SO TRUE. Constantine was the first Nazi

You think breezewood's opinions of Jews is any better?

 

[irosie91]

You think breezewood's opinions of Jews is any better?

dingbat----did I comment on the opinions of breezebrain?

 

[kjw47]

Being Texan, I've met very few Jews in my life. The few I have met were just in passing, so it's not like I could get presumptuous and ask them personal questions about Jews.

I've read books, I've seen documentaries, etc...............

Most of it stems from the Hitler era, and I understand why Adolph Hitler hated Jews. BUT.......WHY is there hatred NOW?

Is it as simple as progressive hatred from the Nazi era? Or is it something else completely?

I really don't understand this particular kind of hate. But I would like to understand.

WHY such wide stemming hatred against Jews?



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Govts and false religions cause division. And satan is the ruler of this world, like this-2Cor 11:12-15, thus he has 99% mislead.

 

[irosie91]

Govts and false religions cause division. And satan is the ruler of this world, like this-2Cor 11:12-15, thus he has 99% mislead.

yeah sure!!!! blame poor satan-----another scapegoat. Satan---according
to some benighted theologians is the former LUCIPHER ----a real ADONIS
kid from the 'hood. We have HOLY DEI now. SATAN has been BROUGHT
BACK INTO uhm righteous society----your Reject!!!!

 

[Z99]

Being Texan, I've met very few Jews in my life. The few I have met were just in passing, so it's not like I could get presumptuous and ask them personal questions about Jews.

I've read books, I've seen documentaries, etc...............

Most of it stems from the Hitler era, and I understand why Adolph Hitler hated Jews. BUT.......WHY is there hatred NOW?

Is it as simple as progressive hatred from the Nazi era? Or is it something else completely?

I really don't understand this particular kind of hate. But I would like to understand.

WHY such wide stemming hatred against Jews?

It's spiritual. Those who are of the world are under spiritual oppression and their illogical hatred of Jewry is a manifestation of their spiritual oppression.

 

[Z99]

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing personal opinion.

Proverbs 18:2

 

[BreezeWood]

You know you shouldn't just make up shit about religion, right?

take a hint -

find another book to read - forgeries, lies and fallacies on nearly every page is not religion or anything else than deliberate deception and political nepotism for the mentally disturbed.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Do you not understand the nature of the Trinity? Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? All three are one.

That is a Christian belief for the purpose of Christianity and of Christians. Developed in time as Christianity grew and took the place of Paganism.

As I said before, Judaism has only one G-D, one only. For 1800 years before Christianity and after it, it continues to be that way.

No human being is born and takes shape as the G-D of Abraham and take his place.

First Commandment: Thou Shall Not Have Any Other Gods but me.

It is that way because of all the other Pagan gods which existed, including the ones Abraham abandoned to follow the G-D he chose to follow, which he did all the way to Canaan.

Your Trinity is a pagan idea. Many who followed Christianity could not abandon their pagan ideas, and this is one of them.

A Demigod is born to a god and a female human being. That is Hercules and many other mythical Demigods of the time and of the area. You may research all of that.

It was never Judaism, for the simple fact that Abraham rejected paganism and all its many gods and idolatry and chose to follow one G-D, and one G-D only.

Which means that Jesus, a Jew who was also a religious Rabbi, followed in Abrham's footsteps of following one G-D, the G-D of Abraham.

I understand that your religious education makes it difficult to understand that. It is all in the Hebrew Scriptures.

All that is written in the NT is borrowed from prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures because some of Paul of Tarsus, who were educated felt that those phrophecies were connected to what they had heard or read about Jesus from Paul himself and his letters.

These were people who did not live at the time of Jesus, not even Paul of Tarsus, and never met him. They believed because of the need to believe and need to deal with the Romans who had conquered all of their world, from England to Judea, etc.


This is the best I can do to explain the difference between Judaism and Christianity.

Had Paul of Tarsus not accused Jews of this and that Christianity would never have gone after the Jews at any time. It would have been simply another believe, cult, religion. The accusations of killing a Demigod who was supposed to save the world, all humans, bring peace to the world, made all the difference.

 

[rosends]

Being Texan, I've met very few Jews in my life. The few I have met were just in passing, so it's not like I could get presumptuous and ask them personal questions about Jews.

I've read books, I've seen documentaries, etc...............

Most of it stems from the Hitler era, and I understand why Adolph Hitler hated Jews. BUT.......WHY is there hatred NOW?

Is it as simple as progressive hatred from the Nazi era? Or is it something else completely?

I really don't understand this particular kind of hate. But I would like to understand.

WHY such wide stemming hatred against Jews?



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there are different reasons which have developed historically to explain hatred (or fear) of Jews. Some are religious reasons, some historical, some sociological and there are other causes. If you would like, I can message you with lots more information.

 

[Sixties Fan]

And I think you completely missed the point. But it's okay. Do have a lovely evening.

I did not miss the point. You are a religious Christian and want to fit a Jewish man from a religion where no human is born to god and female human to the accepted belief amongst many Christians that he was, as if Judaism was Paganism - where that idea comes from.

Paganism had many humans being born from their gods with a female human. None of them came to save the world.

That is Paul of Tarsus way to attract followers to his new ideology, for his own reasons. But he chose a man, a people, a religion which was never that, and could never become that which Paganism was.

Abraham abandoned Paganism and the many gods when he left for Canaan to follow his one and only G-D.

Someone like yourself has a hard time understanding the one G-D concept, that there is no sudden substitution of that G-D 1800 years later for ANY reason. Jesus and the G_D of Abraham cannot both be gods because then Judaism goes back to being Paganism.

No, I do not expect any of those who are very religious Christians to even attempt to understand what was sacred to Jesus and all Jews since Abraham.

 

[ding]

dingbat----did I comment on the opinions of breezebrain?

Kinda sorta, yeah.